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  Topic: Scooterworks exhaust
Mikestib1

Replies: 2
Views: 1752

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:48 pm   Subject: Scooterworks exhaust
I purchased their sport exhaust and per their advice, a 42 pilot , 90 main jet, and 9g Dr Pulley sliders. The scooter is louder and acceleration is worse. Top speed maybe 3 mph faster. Anyhow it seem ...
  Topic: Stock Roughhouse running lean?
Mikestib1

Replies: 3
Views: 1630

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:03 pm   Subject: Plug looks fine
Dealers don't re jet to derestict. They only a washer in the exhaust header and another in the variator
According to the on line parts guide it has a 82
The Buddy uses a 75
If it runs good don't w ...
  Topic: Unsteady Idle
Mikestib1

Replies: 39
Views: 4725

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 4:42 pm   Subject: Idle problem
The first thing I'd do is buy some Chevron Techron FI fuel conditioner and run a tank of gas with 2 ounces of Techron. It's worked for me on both a BMW 650 and a 300 Ninja when both had idle problems ...
  Topic: New owner of a Roughhouse..a new (leftover) 2015
Mikestib1

Replies: 9
Views: 2598

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:33 pm   Subject: New owner of a Roughhouse..a new (leftover) 2015
You're going to love it a lot more when the washer in the header is removed and the spacer in the variator
  Topic: Lag at 30mph Help! needs fixed asap!
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 4585

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:29 pm   Subject: Racing expansion chamber by Prima
Great at high rpm and lousy everywhere else . It's for racing not very day use, I could be wrong but usually you do this mod with 70 BBK which takes care of the low speed issue due to the larger displ ...
  Topic: Lag at 30mph Help! needs fixed asap!
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 4585

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:44 pm   Subject: Re: Lag at 30mph Help! needs fixed asap!
Hey guys I have a 2013 roughhouse 50 that I adore. The issue I have is I just installed a prima exhaust on it and I'm getting some serious lag at 26-34 mph. After I hot 45 I take of to roughly 60mph. ...
  Topic: Is this the future? It's already here folks...
Mikestib1

Replies: 7
Views: 1344

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:08 pm   Subject: Ok for rental use
I assume it would be expensive to buy. If it can't be charged at home at 110v I wouldn't consider buying one. My present gas scooters get 70 to 90 mpg and are catalytic converter equipped so I don't t ...
  Topic: Genuine roughhouse 50 questions
Mikestib1

Replies: 2
Views: 1064

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:23 pm   Subject: Ask them
Scooterworks sells the kit so email them. Of course a persons body weight has a lot to do with it. Mine indicates 50 mph on the speedo on a straight road with a slight downhill grade. I weigh 180. The ...
  Topic: Genuine roughhouse upgrades
Mikestib1

Replies: 5
Views: 2092

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:41 pm   Subject: The warranty issue
All I know is Scooterworks in Chicago, related to Genuine Scooter Co, sells a sport exhaust also which will not void the warranty. They also sell Prima and state it will void the warranty. I bought th ...
  Topic: Performance Improvements - Let's be Realistic
Mikestib1

Replies: 4
Views: 1067

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:11 pm   Subject: Going faster
I loved my Buddy 170i, but after replacing the exhaust and the rollers, bit the bullet and bought a Yamaha S max. It's heavier but makes 15hp versus 11 and does 72 mph. Luckily I could buy a Rough hou ...
  Topic: Mild hop up
Mikestib1

Replies: 14
Views: 2611

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:47 pm   Subject: Smiling on my scooter
I get a lot of useful info, thank you all. Especially from those with direct experience who are helpful with their experience rather than opinions. Like we say opinions are like.... Fill in the blanks ...
  Topic: Mild hop up
Mikestib1

Replies: 14
Views: 2611

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:08 pm   Subject: Mild
Atony posted his experience with the exhaust. It works better than stock at all rpm.
  Topic: Mild hop up
Mikestib1

Replies: 14
Views: 2611

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:56 pm   Subject: Just put it back to stock
Put the stock exhaust back on and the rollers and who knows. Of course a BBK is another thing.and I'm not doing that as I also own a bigger scooter.
Don't see the point of spending many hundreds of d ...
  Topic: Genuine Buddy 170i vs Yamaha S max
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 3768

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:44 pm   Subject: S max
The cockpit is tight if you have long legs. Agreed. But keeping weight on the front wheel is the purpose. I'm very happy with mine and it's not even broken in, the brakes are strong and progressive. I ...
  Topic: Mild hop up
Mikestib1

Replies: 14
Views: 2611

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:39 pm   Subject: Warranty
It's up to your local dealer whether or not he submits the claim. I've also worked at dealerships and know warranty 2.0. Don't know why you are such an expert. Worked 10 years at motorcycle dealership ...
  Topic: Mild hop up
Mikestib1

Replies: 14
Views: 2611

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:35 pm   Subject: Mild hop up
Scooterworks, a company related to Genuine sells many items where they say this will void your warranty
They do have one performance exhaust that will not void the warranty. They advised me to get on ...
  Topic: 72cc Upgrade - RH50
Mikestib1

Replies: 2
Views: 1823

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:26 pm   Subject: Bbk
The local Genuine dealer told me he will only install Malossi kits. He has never had much success with other brands. Definitely voids your 2 year warranty.
  Topic: Got a RH50 today
Mikestib1

Replies: 0
Views: 1430

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:19 pm   Subject: Got a RH50 today
Forgot how a de restricted two stroke powered by 50,000 angry bees ran. Very happy
  Topic: Tire Pressure
Mikestib1

Replies: 5
Views: 1678

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:14 pm   Subject: Tire Pressure
I should have mentioned I weigh 175 pounds and never ride double
  Topic: Tire Pressure
Mikestib1

Replies: 5
Views: 1678

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:05 pm   Subject: Tire Pressure
There is a plate riveted to the plastic below the cubby with the vin, tire size and recommended tire pressure. Do not go by the tire pressure at maximum load on the tire sidewall as many heavier scoot ...
  Topic: Genuine Buddy 170i vs Yamaha S max
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 3768

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:53 pm   Subject: Top speed
Actual is 71 to 73 depending on wind conditions. I only ride interstates if I have to. There is a good S max vs Burgman 200 on line review by Revzilla. I agree with their conclusion. But for my needs ...
  Topic: Scooterworks stage 1
Mikestib1

Replies: 13
Views: 1716

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:41 pm   Subject: Scooterworks stage 1
A Malossi expansion chamber will kill the bottom end and midrange, I only want to do the sport exhaust, 9g Dr Pulleys, 90 main jet. I have a Yamaha S max thet revs to 9500 rpm and tops out at 75. Don' ...
  Topic: Considering a 3/4 helmet after years of full face
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 2737

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:13 pm   Subject: Considering a 3/4 helmet after years of full face
I wear a 3/4 helmet and sometimes a half helmet made by HJC and Shoei. May lose my teeth but at least they protect your brain. It's a riders choice. I also wear an armored jacket. Don't know if anythi ...
  Topic: Scooterworks stage 1
Mikestib1

Replies: 13
Views: 1716

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:57 pm   Subject: Scooterworks stage 1
Ok you don't like the exhaust and it voids the warranty. So you have bought one and it sucks and the dealer voided the warranty. So you bought one and you're talking from personal experience or what? ...
  Topic: New performance exhaust for Roughhouse
Mikestib1

Replies: 12
Views: 5617

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:35 pm   Subject: New performance exhaust for Roughhouse
40 Buddy mph is like 35. So did the dealer derestrict just the exhaust, or did he also remove the thick washer from the variator/ drive face? I'm about to buy the same exhaust and main jet from Scoote ...
  Topic: Scooterworks stage 1
Mikestib1

Replies: 13
Views: 1716

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:02 am   Subject: Scooterworks stage 1
The Rough House has nothing to do with GY6 scooters. It's a 2 stroke.
Anyhow since its new and under warranty once it's de restricted and broken in I can change the exhaust and up the main jet from 7 ...
  Topic: New performance exhaust for Roughhouse
Mikestib1

Replies: 12
Views: 5617

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:31 pm   Subject: New performance exhaust for Roughhouse
The variator washer must be removed or I doubt it would do over 40 mph.
  Topic: Scooterworks stage 1
Mikestib1

Replies: 13
Views: 1716

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:10 pm   Subject: Malossi expansion chamber
May start off with one as found one for a good price, a 90 main jet, and Dr. Pulley sliders, low budget and the Malossi is much like the Prima.
  Topic: Anyone try a fuel mapping device?
Mikestib1

Replies: 6
Views: 1510

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:01 pm   Subject: 170 big bore
I'm not aware of any. If you want more than 11hp like I do I bought a Yamaha 155 S max which makes almost 15. Of course it weighs more but handles well, has superior brakes and is good to 75mph.. Hard ...
  Topic: Anyone ridden both a rattler 110 and a GROM?
Mikestib1

Replies: 11
Views: 3165

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:04 pm   Subject: Enjoy the Grom
I'd put a -1 tooth front sprocket, 13 vs 14 for better acceleration and less downshifting. Worked for me. Yoshimura has a really nice exhaust system that bolts up easily. Did both to my Grom. No remap ...
  Topic: Genuine Buddy 170i vs Yamaha S max
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 3768

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:43 pm   Subject: 11 hp is only so much
The 170i is a 2 valve engine. The fuel injection makes it run great hot or cold. To go fast with the Genuine brand buy a Blur 220i.
Or enjoy the Buddy for what it is, fun, reliable, unique.
  Topic: Scooterworks stage 1
Mikestib1

Replies: 13
Views: 1716

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:31 pm   Subject: Scooterworks stage 1
I think Scooterworks and Genuine are related. This kit is for the Buddy and RH50. Includes Prima expansion chamber, main jets, roller weights, and contra spring. Anyone try it? Seems it should save so ...
  Topic: Anyone ridden both a rattler 110 and a GROM?
Mikestib1

Replies: 11
Views: 3165

PostForum: Black Cat, Rattler & Roughhouse Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:54 pm   Subject: Grom
I owned one. Top speed 45 mph, crude 4 speed transmission. About 7 hp. You are shifting gears all the time.
  Topic: Anyone try a fuel mapping device?
Mikestib1

Replies: 6
Views: 1510

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:46 pm   Subject: Why do you need to modify the Ecu
Unless you ditch the air box, install a full exhaust system, and install a big bore kit, you don't need a FI controller.
  Topic: Lesson Learned....
Mikestib1

Replies: 10
Views: 2027

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:29 pm   Subject: Battery Tender
I haven't bought a new battery in 10 years with multiple bikes. If I don't ride more tha a few miles at a time, I hook it up once a month. If I don't ride at all in the Winter, I just leave it connect ...
  Topic: Lesson Learned....
Mikestib1

Replies: 10
Views: 2027

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:27 pm   Subject: Tried to delete
Still learning
  Topic: Genuine scooter freak
Mikestib1

Replies: 0
Views: 902

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:11 pm   Subject: Genuine scooter freak
Just sold my Buddy 170i to a very happy buyer. Got a good deal on a Yamaha S max and bought it. Got my refund check and will get a RH50 de restricted Monday. I love 2 strokes. From my first Yamaha AT1 ...
  Topic: Genuine Buddy 170i vs Yamaha S max
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 3768

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:01 pm   Subject: Re: Not top speed
All I know is I'm getting the exact same 59.8 GPS confirmed top speed as I was getting with the Hooli's stock exhaust. Very disappointing. Been thinking about getting the Scooterworks performance tran ...
  Topic: Buddy 170i
Mikestib1

Replies: 0
Views: 974

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:36 pm   Subject: Buddy 170i
Sold mine only because I wanted a change, the S max I bought is heavier, but the brakes are much better, I did the Ncy exhaust and Dr. Pulley 11g sliders and it was noisy,fun, and quick to about 40. F ...
  Topic: Advice on first Genuine Buddy
Mikestib1

Replies: 47
Views: 6229

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:53 pm   Subject: Genuine Buddy
I have a 170i with 700 miles. Bought it as new but non current model. Asking $1900 but I'm in Virginia. I love it but I go through scooters and motorcycles like a crazed maniac, always ready for a new ...
  Topic: Genuine Buddy 170i vs Yamaha S max
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 3768

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:36 pm   Subject: Not top speed
The Buddy hits 40 in a city block. Top speed is 62. I love it. The S max is for longer rides at higher speeds, up to 75 so cruising at 55 it's not working as hard. I am disappointed the Yamaha, though ...
  Topic: Genuine Buddy 170i vs Yamaha S max
Mikestib1

Replies: 25
Views: 3768

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:25 pm   Subject: Genuine Buddy 170i vs Yamaha S max
I've owned the Buddy 170 for a year. Great city scooter. Just got the Smax. The riding position is similar, it weighs more, but you get front and rear disc brakes, a higher seat height. The Buddy is b ...
  Topic: Do something about it before it's too late
Mikestib1

Replies: 1
Views: 826

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:08 pm   Subject: Do something about it before it's too late
The American Motorcyclist Association has a link if you go to their website there is a link to the trade regulators involved. Just do it!
  Topic: 125 or 170i?
Mikestib1

Replies: 19
Views: 3897

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:08 pm   Subject: Get the 170
All carbureted scooters have starting problems if they sit long due to ethanol in our gas. Fuel injected bikes don't have this issue. As far as a kickstarer on the 170, if your battery was low it woul ...
  Topic: 2014 Buddy 170i acceleration issue
Mikestib1

Replies: 2
Views: 1157

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:43 pm   Subject: Poor acceleration
It could be as simple as a bad tank of gasoline, especially if it's been sitting a while and you don't fill up the tank every couple of weeks. I would think it is ready for a valve adjustment. Never h ...
  Topic: Buddy 125 down - gas smelled and felt
Mikestib1

Replies: 3
Views: 1056

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:22 pm   Subject: Cleaning bike
I'd use Dawn liquid dishwashing detergent.
  Topic: Slider vs roller variator weights
Mikestib1

Replies: 7
Views: 1954

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:19 pm   Subject: Stock roller weight
11 grams. I replaced mine with Dr,Pulley same weight for better acceleration and maintaining speed on hills. Top speed unaffected.
  Topic: The scooter from the Who's Quadrophenia movie
Mikestib1

Replies: 1
Views: 1111

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:42 pm   Subject: The scooter from the Who's Quadrophenia movie
Unbelievable Lambretta 150. Google photos the scooter from the who's Quadrophenia on the Wall Street Jounal. It just sold at auction for $36000. Me I'm keeping my Buddy 170i but thinking about a sissy ...
  Topic: Buddy 150/170i vs Vespa 300 GTS
Mikestib1

Replies: 9
Views: 2222

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:03 pm   Subject: Cycletrader
Bought both the Buddy and the Kymco on their site. They were new but had been sitting in the dealer showroom about 2 years so they were ready to deal. Still had new warranty and did my own tax and tit ...
  Topic: Buddy 150/170i vs Vespa 300 GTS
Mikestib1

Replies: 9
Views: 2222

PostForum: General Discussion   Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:04 pm   Subject: 2 up on the highway
I own a 170i Buddy. Not good 2 up. Not good at 65 mph on the highway with its little 10" wheels that make it perfect in town. Owned a Kymco people Gt300i, great on the highway but cumbersome in ...
 
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