4-stroke, 50 state Stella at last… ?

ericalm

MB member BuddyLicious sent this my way so gets full credit for finding what appears to be an announcement of the long-awaited 4T Stella:

http://www.scooterridersnow.com/PublicFiles/DepartmentViewer.asp?ArticleID=822

This isn't sourced so I don't know where they heard this. I'll try to get confirmation from Genuine ASAP.

We've heard about this for some time and even thought it might make an '09 debut. I'm just glad I'll no longer look like the the boy who cried "Stella," constantly saying that this was coming at some point. Felt slightly vindicated when LML had a 4T at EICMA.

kneil67@yahoo.com · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject:

I like it im also glad scooter works is expanding their catologe hopefully there will be more buddy parts avail.

gearhead · Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 1181

any news on if its legit?

Mike @ NoHo Scooters · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject:

I may or may not have heard that they sent one to CARB for testing.

ericalm · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject:

I've sent an email for confirmation.

gearhead · Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 1181

thanks! keep us posted!

Lostmycage · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject:

I really hope the bit about the new Scooterworks catalog released this month. There's going to be some REALLY nice stuff in that one.

Hanz · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject:

shame its only going to be a 150cc. i was hoping it was going to be the rumered 200cc genuine scooter.

Dooglas · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:00 am Post subject:

Hanz · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:31 am Post subject:

gearhead · Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 1181

no news yet if it its legit yet...

ericalm · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:25 am Post subject:

brape · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject:

This is bad news for me because I would like a Stella... but the environmentalist in me can't do a 2 stroke, however what I really need is a new car.

monza · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject:

kazoo · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject:

HD should come out with a scooter line, again.

Oh boy, here we go. . .

BuddyLicious · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject:

So how would that work or look,I mean on the rear side's of the Stella now you have on 1 side the spare tire and on the other side you have the engine.With a 4-stroke Stella would those be replaced with the tranny cover replacing the 2-strokes spare tire and then the other side you would have the 4-strokes exhaust replacing the what now is the 2-strokes engine area. What I mean is what you would actually see.I wish I could use something like photoshop to put together what a 4-stroke Stella should look like.Or at least assume what it should look like.Happy Happy....

Tim

monza · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

well, you cant easily put a modern 4t automatic (atleast the way we know it) in a P frame...takes quite a bit of modification to work since the distance from the swing arm mount to the centerline of the wheel is much shorter on a Vespa large frame style motor. I think we are more likely to see a 4t motor similar in shape to the current large frame motor so that body stampings dont have to change (which are freakishly expensive to tool up). Is it going to be auto or manual? I would guess manual, but if automatic, that can be done within the goofy confines of a vespa style motor. The PK Automatica was a smallframe with a CVT. No frame mods were required for that one.

ericalm · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject:

ScooterNews · Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 103 Location: TN

I emailed Genuine about the rumor and it bounced back. Has anyone heard anything. The only Genuine contact I have is info@genuinescooter.com Anyone know of a better contact?

cheers,

Ryan Carden

dsmith65 · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject:

ericalm · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject:

Just spoke with Genuine. This is confirmed. It's on!

150cc manual. Don't have delivery dates or other details. We'll know more of that in coming months.

rabbitgod · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject:

uh oh.

Weeelllp, there goes all my spare money this year.

siobhan · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject:

illnoise · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:06 am Post subject:

Wow, when you sent me that, eric, i just saw it as a rehash of that story from a year ago that said the same thing. Cool to hear it's getting close.

Also, to whoever said "I'd never ride a 2-stroke," note that a lot of modern 2-strokes are way better for the environment than some older 4-strokes, and even a lot of modern 4-strokes may not be as eco-friendly as you'd think.

Always look for the real-world numbers and make a fair comparison based on similar current bikes, forget the generalizations. That info is not hard to find, but sadly, it's just about impossible to make sense of.

My understanding (based entirely on hearsay) is that it will be called the Stella, and that it may not look much like the Stella we know and love. But don't quote me on that, that's just rumor.

I think there are a lot of people that know a lot more about it than I do.

Bb.

UXO · Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 150

Its the Stella and its not an ordinary fella by any means.

ScooterNews · Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 103 Location: TN

KRUSTYburger · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:49 am Post subject:

ALRIGHT!!! There is no doubt I will be getting one of these. Maybe I can sell my Buddy to my dad,
I'm sure he will be riding again by then. Hopefully they still have my BABY BLUUUUUUUEE!!!!

Tricia · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject:

DUDE! (Does happy dance)

ericalm · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

jperkins · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:

this all sounds too good to be true...just throwing this out there, is this an early april fools joke?................

I have had too many years of speculation to actually believe this.

KRUSTYburger · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject:

That was the April fool's joke last year, so if it is again, that's pretty lame. Plus April 1st is tomorrow and Eric said it was confirmed yesterday...
He wouldn't be so heartless as to get our hopes up again would he? Eyelashes

ericalm · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:51 am Post subject:

KRUSTYburger · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:03 am Post subject:

KRUSTYburger · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:41 am Post subject:

Uh oh, I may have an extremely difficult decision to make... I can wait for the Stella or buy a '68 Honda CD175.
Someone in my area is selling one on CL! Man I will never be able to make up my mind! Mad

ericalm · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject:

KRUSTYburger · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject:

haha, no it's black (which I actually prefer over red). and it only has 8000 miles on it, excellent condition.
Yeah, Stella would be way easier to keep up with, especially since I've gotten to know a bit about working on
modern scooter engines. Stella is more than twice as much $$$, but maybe I could get the CD175 and then
sell the buddy when the Stella comes out? Then my garage will look like this! Shocked

KRUSTYburger · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject:

So what engine do you figure they will use for the 4T Stellas? Like a PGO engine or does LML make one?
Their current models are all 2-stroke except the "Trendy" which is only 60cc anyways...

ericalm · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject:

irishtim · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:15 am Post subject:

Skootz Kabootz · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:34 am Post subject:

BuddyLicious · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject:

ericalm · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject:

JSharpPhoto · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: this totally bums be out

is it just me, or does this seem like a bad idea? i had looked forward to upgrading to a stella, and when I blew up the LML motor, replacing it with a P200e rebuild. The biggest charm about the stella is the interchangability with P bikes. If you go 4T, you lose that.

BuddyLicious · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject:

I guess I'm out on the Stella.If it were auto I'd be in for one.Maybe just maybe there will be an auto added at some time in the future.I love the vintage look and always have but never have been interested in shifting. Also had they went auto there would have been less maintenance,like there is now.Oh well there is no way to make everyone happy.We all know that.

Tim

BuddyLicious · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: this totally bums be out

Dooglas · Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject:

ericalm · Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: this totally bums be out

KRUSTYburger · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:34 am Post subject:

I was just daydreaming about the 4T Stella summore today... It got me thinking what
the price might be. I figured it would be close to the same? Any speculation?

ericalm · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:40 am Post subject:

gearhead · Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 1181

so it's legit?