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Nickie McNichols
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illnoise
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Note the author: David L. Hough.
He should be a household word in any two-wheeled household.
His "Proficient Motorcycling" book is the single best investment you'll ever make, it should be included with every scooter purchase. And the sequel and his other books are all must-reads, too.
Thanks for posting this, great stuff.
Bb.
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Lostmycage
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cmac
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I'm thinking of stitching the word "Boobs" in relfective tape into the back of my jacket. Maybe that will get people's attention. Wait, but what about the women...hmm 
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Skootz Kabootz
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What great articles. Thanks! And I totally second illnoise's comments.
A number of similar recommendations to are covered in Proficient Motorcycling, but in reading these articles, the visibility benefits of running lights really stood out to me. Enhanced visibility is precisely the reason why I got one of lil Buddy's adapters and made my deadlights into running lights, or as I call them, my dead-no-more lights. I feel they make the front of the scooter look that much more unfamiliar in shape (a triangle of lights) and thus help to get it noticed.
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Kaos
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| Skootz Kabootz wrote: | What great articles. Thanks! And I totally second illnoise's comments.
A number of similar recommendations to are covered in Proficient Motorcycling, but in reading these articles, the visibility benefits of running lights really stood out to me. Enhanced visibility is precisely the reason why I got one of lil Buddy's adapters and made my deadlights into running lights, or as I call them, my dead-no-more lights. I feel they make the front of the scooter look that much more unfamiliar in shape (a triangle of lights) and thus help to get it noticed. |
Wait, wouldn't that make them UNDEAD lights??
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Lostmycage
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Undead lights are green. Vampire lights are red.
Not sure what amber lights are...
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Skootz Kabootz
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Ahhhh... that radiant glow of the undead... nothing get's one noticed quite like that does 
Somewhat related... I just got this in my email today. New Enough has green visibility vests on sale for $15. Nice deal.
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jijifer
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| Skootz Kabootz wrote: | Ahhhh... that radiant glow of the undead... nothing get's one noticed quite like that does
Somewhat related... I just got this in my email today. New Enough has green visibility vests on sale for $15. Nice deal. |
do you get the impression that those US Army logos are removable?
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bpsalinas
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Thank you for posting this article. I was pretty confident that my red mesh jacket made me more conspicuous on the road. I am pretty shocked to see that is not actually the case.
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Skootz Kabootz
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| jijifer wrote: | | Skootz Kabootz wrote: | Ahhhh... that radiant glow of the undead... nothing get's one noticed quite like that does
Somewhat related... I just got this in my email today. New Enough has green visibility vests on sale for $15. Nice deal. |
do you get the impression that those US Army logos are removable? |
Hard to tell from the photos. Could be silk screened. I would send New Enough an email and ask them. They are really helpful there.
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bpsalinas
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I really like the final paragraph of the article. Basically, even with all of these conspicuity tactics, you still need to be good at reading and responding to traffic:
| Quote: | | But since you don’t know who will see you and who won’t, you need to be prepared to get out of the way of any vehicles that are in a position to collide with you. That emphasizes the need to get smarter about what happens in traffic, and being skillful enough to take evasive action to avoid those drivers who really don’t "see" you. |
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Portland_Rider
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Go the this sites section:
for all new members owners/helpful topics/tips on visibility
There is some great information in there in the article 'Why go High Viz?' and if you hunt around further among the list of additonal visability safety articles in the links to the right, you'll find even more advice and information.
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Lostmycage
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| Portland_Rider wrote: | Go the this sites section:
for all new members owners/helpful topics/tips on visibility
There is some great information in there in the article 'Why go High Viz?' and if you hunt around further among the list of additonal visability safety articles in the links to the right, you'll find even more advice and information. |
PR, Good eye, fella! I've missed quite a few topics from the old FAQ, some of them are real gems, and that's a good one. I'll try to fit that into the newer MB Guides section shortly. Thanks for the heads up!
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Portland_Rider
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| Lostmycage wrote: | | Portland_Rider wrote: | Go the this sites section:
for all new members owners/helpful topics/tips on visibility
There is some great information in there in the article 'Why go High Viz?' and if you hunt around further among the list of additonal visability safety articles in the links to the right, you'll find even more advice and information. |
PR, Good eye, fella! I've missed quite a few topics from the old FAQ, some of them are real gems, and that's a good one. I'll try to fit that into the newer MB Guides section shortly. Thanks for the heads up! |
You are most welcome. I take safe riding very seriously.
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Lostmycage
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| Portland_Rider wrote: | | You are most welcome. I take safe riding very seriously. |
As should we all! It might seem a little over-zealous, but being more visible means less likely altercations and the like. I'm all for the "ride safe" ideals... hell I wear full gear in 90+ temps with east coast humidity. It sucks, but it's better than being in a hospital! (And around here, they really are almost "out to get you" because they're so tied up in their texting and discussing their bowel movements to their friends while they're commuting home).
I'll integrate your find into the FAQ tomorrow if I can find a few spare minutes. 
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KRUSTYburger
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Funny the article doesn't mention anything about FLAGS... just sayin. 
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illnoise
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I hate recommending this helmet to people because I want to be the only person wearing it because it's awesome, but:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/scorpion/exo-700-neon/
super-visible, comfy, well-made, etc (if it fits your head shape). And it usually retails for about $220, which is a great price for a good-quality full-face. I really dig Scorpion. They're not Shoei quality, but they're loads better than other helmets in that price range.If only they'd get rid of their lame, misogynistic advertising.
Bb.
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olhogrider
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Portland_Rider
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| illnoise wrote: | I hate recommending this helmet to people because I want to be the only person wearing it because it's awesome, but:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/scorpion/exo-700-neon/
super-visible, comfy, well-made, etc (if it fits your head shape). And it usually retails for about $220, which is a great price for a good-quality full-face. I really dig Scorpion. They're not Shoei quality, but they're loads better than other helmets in that price range.If only they'd get rid of their lame, misogynistic advertising.
Bb. |
About a month before the apparent release of the 700 series Hi-Viz, I bought the Scorpion EXO-400 Full Face in solid white. Overall, I'm happy with it and have no complaints.
Last week from Scooterworks, I ordered a blinking red triangle shaped mini-light that fits onto the back of a helmet. I'm also shopping for retro-reflective tape to place onto the helmet and scooter.
Scorpion seems like a good helmet maker that offers good value.
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