Some Bad News...

Keys · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: Some Bad News...

I just got off the phone with my dealer, Scoot Over in Tucson and they had some bad news. Genuine has apparently decided that the Buddy has enough power and will NOT be pursuing a bigger bore kit. Brandon said, though, the Polini may be interested. I would also think Martin Racing Products might be coerced into helping out.

The other piece of bad news is that the Blur will NOT be coming here as a 200 cc.

On the upside, they intend to market a FEW of what they are saying is the fastest production scooter ever...a 40 horsepower, rotary engined beast. May be out this summer...along with the 110cc Rattler.

--Keys Cool

AxeYrCat · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject:

That would be killer. Too bad about the cylinder kit and the Blur, though.

Roose Hurro · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:11 am Post subject: Tool Time...

Genuine has obviously never heard of Tim Taylor... Rolling Eyes

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San Francisco · Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 234 Location: San Francisco

Well, with my motorcycles I have all the power I want.

I have to agree with Genuine, the Buddy is plenty fast as it is, at least
for me when tooling around the City. It's a little slow on some hills
when starting on an incline, but truth be told, in this City one should not
be screaming up and down any City streets, it's too dangerous.

Believe me, I understand the concept of squeezing as much power out
of a vehicle, but for me, the Buddy is plenty fast.

But sorry for the bad news.

Sidenote: I gotta wonder if they decided to not come out with the power
mod because the Buddy cannot handle it? And maybe they were worried
about liability issues? Not sure what the mod would do to increase the
Buddy's power, but I could just see Genuine getting sued because they
were selling kits to make the Buddy scream at 80 mph. Lastly, maybe
there would not be enough of a market for it? Not sure, but I assume
most people buying a Buddy are not interested in modifying the engine.

merlin · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:23 am Post subject:

i am sad as all get out now that buddy wont make the big bore kit.

i was looking forward to making my scoot stupid fast.

Bryce-O-Rama · Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 251

That kind of sucks about the Blur not being a 200. Got any more of a scoop about a rotary powered scooter?

ericalm · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:35 am Post subject:

The cylinder kit news does not surprise me. I would be concerned about stability and the scoot's integrity with a kit in there.

I am, however, surprised by the Blur news. I hope Genuine is planning on bringing over something in the 200-250cc range. I think there's a lot of demand there for a reasonably-priced, powerful non-maxi scoot.

ericalm · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Some Bad News...

BlueMark · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Some Bad News...

donajgra · Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Utah **BLUR 150**

I have talked with my local dealers about a big bore kit mod, mostly for the blur, and they think that the PGO name is big enough in other countries that the kits are out there, it is just that they aren't being imported to the US.

Also, there are kits in the US for the 250cc kart and the 50cc Big Max, just nothing currently available for Blur or Buddy scooters. They also seem to think that they could find another brand of kit that would fit, but it would only be a 20cc upgrade.

I think I am going to leave exploring that one until after the 2 year warranty is expired.

BlueMark, did you ever get those pulley weights installed?

Keys · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:05 am Post subject:

I have had the speedometer pegged at 80 mph on my Buddy a couple of times, and it was just as stable as it was at 55. At least, to me it was. It was more stable than an old kitted Vespa I had. Personally, I believe the Buddy is perfectly capable of handling the extra power.

As for "...if I want more power, I just ride one of my motorcycles", not all of us have the wherewithal to simply go out and buy whatever we want to cover all bases of our desires. It was all I could do to buy a new scooter, financially speaking. Those of us who cannot (or don't have the desire to) go out and buy another something to fit the bill are relegated to changing what we have to fit our needs. I have owned over 60 motorcycles in the course of 37 years of riding and have no desire to own another. Scooters are FAR more enjoyable to me...and part of the joy I derive is wringing all of the power and speed I can out of a small engine and making them perform capably in ways others may not have imagined possible.

And yes, I'm sure it was the fear of lawsuits that made them stop pursuing the big kit. That was the same reason they refuse to sponsor me on my trip to Baton Rouge and back.

--Keys Cool

kimbica · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Tucson **Buddy 125**

Hi,

I just decided on the Buddy italia edition at Scootover, which is also my local shop! I am really excited and nervous since I have never had a scooter or motorcycle before, but the test drive was not hard and I was encouraged. I just get a little nervous when I get up to speed; once I get to 35-40 mph I feel I don't have control yet. probably comes with practice and experience. I just love the retro look of this scooter. It is eye catching without being flashy. and I understand this scooter is easy to learn for those new to the world of scooting. Very Happy

Now I need to study for my permit test and get out into some low traffic areas to practice. Anyone in Tucson (or elsewhere) who has recommendations on good practicing areas for a beginner please post! Thanks!

kimbica

eochaid27 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:46 am Post subject:

I'm a little disappointed about the kit as well but then I remembered the time I got up over 70 on my Buddy 125 and it didn't feel stable to me but that was within a couple of weeks of first getting it so I might not feel the same now. I have to find just the right hill to go down to go that fast. Smile

I also remind myslef that one of the main reasons I'm sticking to scooters is so I don't go too fast. I'm stupid enough that I will go as fast as the bike will let me and (hopefully) smart enough to not ever buy anything to be too stupid with. 60 - 65 is plenty for me. We'll see how I feel after I've been riding for a few more years...

kimbica, for places to ride: we are lucky to have a large office building near our house that is mostly empty during the evening and on weekends so we use the parking lot there to practice. I bought a can of bright yellow tennis balls and cut them in half so we can set up a riding course. Be careful on fast turns, I've scraped severl times. You'll see this advice several times but I STRONGLY recommend the Motorcycle Safety Foundation class. Some places will let you take it on a scooter, others won't. I believe you also have to ride something over a 50 to take the class which means you wouldn't be legal if you ride to the class without a license. Good luck.

ericalm · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject:

ericalm · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject:

Another dealer says there IS a kit coming:

San Francisco · Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 234 Location: San Francisco

San Francisco · Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 234 Location: San Francisco

GenuineScooters · Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:16 am Post subject: supped up

Genuine Makes a scooter to run for a long time. Supping them up puts a strain on the engin. The 110 rattler is here and doing well. Been here for years.

enzomatic · Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:48 am Post subject:

this was dug up from the depths, THE KIT LIVES, still waiting on the 200cc and I guess the rotary as well now.