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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Pinasco pipe for Stella 4T Reply with quote

As reported in 2strokebuzz today, Pinasco has officially announced their forthcoming performance pipe for the Stella/LML Star 4T.

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Pinasco is going to amaze again the world of Classic Scooter with a big innovation for all fans of new LML STAR 125-150 4T. Pinasco in its tradition has been always in pole position in the world of tuning for scooters and now is presenting to all its loyal fans the first performance Symphony exhaust for scooter LML STAR 125-150 4T. The exhaust has been tested for long time in different conditions to combine performance and reliability. It’s handmade welded and supplied in two models: the cheapest is made of powder-coated steel, the most prestigious is made of INOX steel. Pinasco Symphony for LML 125-150 4T is the biggest novelty of 2010 in the tuning market for scooters. The EU certificate of approval avoids the obligation to make any other kind of update of documents of your vehicle. Pinasco Symphony is a very high quality product with a perfect sound that will be loved by any ear.


Someone at Pinasco is either a wiseguy or can't spell. On their site, the pipe is referred to as the "Symphony," the "Symfony" and the "Sinfony."

It's not exactly a good-looking pipe. Commenters on 2sb have said there are matte black and ceramic white versions as well.



I'd love to put a pipe on the 4T but will be waiting to see what else comes along. This thing's just too hideous. Of course, if other buy it and find it's a rocket booster, well… we'll see…

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um.

If that is a performance pipe, I hate to see the original. That thing looks like a freaking mess.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, my eyes are watering! That thing looks very... wide.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it sounds/performs better than it looks. Also, keep in mind you wouldn't see most of it.

You'd think they'd at least have cleaned it up a little for the photo shoot, though, ha.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

illnoise wrote:

You'd think they'd at least have cleaned it up a little for the photo shoot, though, ha.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

illnoise wrote:
Maybe it sounds/performs better than it looks. Also, keep in mind you wouldn't see most of it.

You'd think they'd at least have cleaned it up a little for the photo shoot, though, ha.


yeah, this looks like it belongs on a rat bike

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the torches and pitchforks! Franken-pipe is a monster!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber


If you look at the graph on Pinasco's site, they're showing increase from 7.5HP to 8HP, about 7%. That's similar to what I got from the Leo Vince on my GTV.

Doesn't stop it from being butt ugly though...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BuddyRaton wrote:
OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber


If you look at the graph on Pinasco's site, they're showing increase from 7.5HP to 8HP, about 7%. That's similar to what I got from the Leo Vince on my GTV.

Doesn't stop it from being butt ugly though...


From TSB "but increasing the RPM range by about 1000 RPM or more"

Yeah you get .5 hp...at 6,500 rpm. Up to 5,500 rpm the performance gains are minimal.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BuddyRaton wrote:
OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber


If you look at the graph on Pinasco's site, they're showing increase from 7.5HP to 8HP, about 7%. That's similar to what I got from the Leo Vince on my GTV.

Doesn't stop it from being butt ugly though...


From TSB "but increasing the RPM range by about 1000 RPM or more"

Yeah you get .5 hp...at 6,500 rpm. Up to 5,500 rpm the performance gains are minimal.


Well, that's pretty much what you'd expect from a performance pipe for a 4-stroke. Any horsepower gains are going to come from better breathing ability at high revs, not increased torque at low rpms.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A longer header pipe means more torque. That looks to be most of the mess on there. Maybe it doesn't lose too much down low.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A longer header pipe means more torque. That looks to be most of the mess on there. Maybe it doesn't lose too much down low.

Max, have you heard anything about pricing and availability for this yet? I know you guys carry some Pinasco stuff.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing yet, but I'll post here as soon as i do.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.... any updates on this yet? Any-1 get one yet and put it on their Stella?? How does it sound??? I need to make mine louder...v
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta find one! I think they're only available from Europe, and not cheap. I'll wait for someone to import it!

Or you could try trolling the UK LML owners forums to see if any of them have pt this on yet.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you goto 'you tube'. And search for LML 150 4t.... I found 2 videos .. but its hard to tell about the sound in them....
I contacted James at POC..He said their pipe for Stella 4t is nearing completion.
But I fear it WONT be muffled in any way..just like their POC Bajaj.....
I would like somewhat of a silencer (mild) and not just a straight pipe.... ideally for me anyways
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimmbomb wrote:
Well....Any-1 get one yet and put it on their Stella?? ...

I wont be doing anything like that untill my 2 year warranty is up. After that I'll keep you all informed.
untill then, I bet some others here will do it sooner and advise it here before me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I broke down & ordered the Polini today.. I'll post up pictures & a vid when I get it on...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be watching for your results!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for being the guinea pig jimmbomb!
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Thanks for being the guinea pig jimmbomb!



ok. here it is.. follow it in this link...

http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=236114#236114


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great write up and pics! Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scooterworks just sent out an email pimping the Pinasco pipe and the 21mm carb!

Let's get those MPGs to a reasonable 90 or so! Smile Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Scooterworks just sent out an email pimping the Pinasco pipe and the 21mm carb!

Let's get those MPGs to a reasonable 90 or so! Smile Razz

http://is.gd/OMHIKL


At a very scary price, unfortunately. Confused

I'll likely wait for a sale.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.

And the Polini's better looking. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.

And the Polini's better looking. Smile


Agree.

Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.

And it's not stainless steel.

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ericalm wrote:
Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.

And the Polini's better looking. Smile


Agree.

Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.

And it's not stainless steel.

Wow. I haven't seen the PM Tuning for sale by a US company for under $480 or so!

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ericalm wrote:
Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.

And the Polini's better looking. Smile


Agree.

Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.

And it's not stainless steel.

Wow. I haven't seen the PM Tuning for sale by a US company for under $480 or so!


SIP's dollar prices vary daily with the exchange rate, and I think I caught a brief period when the rate was favorable.

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Silver Streak wrote:
ericalm wrote:
Silver Streak wrote:
ericalm wrote:
Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.

And the Polini's better looking. Smile


Agree.

Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.h

And it's not stainless steel.

Wow. I haven't seen the PM Tuning for sale by a US company for under $480 or so!


SIP's dollar prices vary daily with the exchange rate, and I think I caught a b
rief period when the rate was favorable.



So.... PM Tuning makes a pipe that will fit up to tha LML 125/150???
thanks...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So.... PM Tuning makes a pipe that will fit up to tha LML 125/150???
thanks...

Nope, that's the PM Tuning for the Vespa/Piaggio 125s/150s (LX, Fly).

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