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Polini Pipe & Cylinder Kit for Stella 4T!

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Polini Pipe & Cylinder Kit for Stella 4T! Reply with quote

Saw a pic of one of these among some EICMA photos and found it on the Polini site. No other info yet…

http://uk.catalogo.polini.it/catalogo/en/risultato.php?op=po&id=158956



Then I found this…


http://uk.catalogo.polini.it/catalogo/en/risultato.php?op=po&id=158896

165cc kit!

Huh!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:53 am    Post subject: Cubic Inches... Reply with quote

Wasn't there supposed to be a 200cc kit for the 4T Stella?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what would the pipe and 165 CC kit do for top end speed?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa! Now my dilemma is going to be whether to go ahead and void my warranty...

Tweety, that is a difficult question to answer. It depends on whether the top speed on that bike is limited by horesepower vs. wind resistance or by gearing.

These mods would certainly give you more torquey response, but I don't think anyone can give a definitive answer on top speed until someone tries it.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Cubic Inches... Reply with quote

Roose Hurro wrote:
Wasn't there supposed to be a 200cc kit for the 4T Stella?

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There's a 200cc ENGINE available for it. But now that LML has introduced the injected 200cc, I don't know how long the carbureted versions of these things will be around.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: Cubic Inches... Reply with quote

ericalm wrote:
Roose Hurro wrote:
Wasn't there supposed to be a 200cc kit for the 4T Stella?

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There's a 200cc ENGINE available for it. But now that LML has introduced the injected 200cc, I don't know how long the carbureted versions of these things will be around.


That's even better... much prefer a factory 200cc to a kitted scoot. FI is a plus.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I would necessarily want to get rid of my 2T, but I am wondering if it would be possible to shoehorn the 200 cc FI engine into my 09 Stella 2T. Just a curiosity.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not that I would necessarily want to get rid of my 2T, but I am wondering if it would be possible to shoehorn the 200 cc FI engine into my 09 Stella 2T. Just a curiosity.

No, not at all possible. The 4T back end is a completely different design under the cowls and has a separate frame under there for the engine.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spd122 wrote:
Not that I would necessarily want to get rid of my 2T, but I am wondering if it would be possible to shoehorn the 200 cc FI engine into my 09 Stella 2T. Just a curiosity.

where there is a will there is a way but it will take a lot of custom fab work

so unless you got a wleder and a grinder and maybe a plasma cutter then proably not

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Cubic Inches... Reply with quote

[quote="Roose Hurro"]
ericalm wrote:
Roose Hurro wrote:
Wasn't there supposed to be a 200cc kit for the 4T Stella?

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There's a 200cc ENGINE available for it. But now that LML has introduced the injected 200cc, I don't know how long the carbureted versions of these things will be around.


Is Genuine Scooters going to start selling the Stella 4t 200cc fuel injected models in 2011??? or do we have to wait?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spd122 wrote:
Not that I would necessarily want to get rid of my 2T, but I am wondering if it would be possible to shoehorn the 200 cc FI engine into my 09 Stella 2T. Just a curiosity.


Find a 1979 (the best year for them!) P200 motor and it will fit right in!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: Cubic Inches... Reply with quote

aja fresco wrote:
ericalm wrote:
Roose Hurro wrote:
Wasn't there supposed to be a 200cc kit for the 4T Stella?

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There's a 200cc ENGINE available for it. But now that LML has introduced the injected 200cc, I don't know how long the carbureted versions of these things will be around.


Is Genuine Scooters going to start selling the Stella 4t 200cc fuel injected models in 2011??? or do we have to wait?

No word, but I think it's highly unlikely given that the 150s are certified for sale in 50 states and are en route.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ericalm. do you really get 140 mpg on your new Stella 4-stroke? What is the "real world" mpg?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ericalm. do you really get 140 mpg on your new Stella 4-stroke? What is the "real world" mpg?

Certainly more than 100mpg. I haven't been diligent about tracking my mileage but the one time I did, I was getting close to 120! This was after engine break in.

I do know that it seems that when I ride my Vespa, I have to fill it about twice as often.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ericalm wrote:
aja fresco wrote:
ericalm. do you really get 140 mpg on your new Stella 4-stroke? What is the "real world" mpg?

Certainly more than 100mpg. I haven't been diligent about tracking my mileage but the one time I did, I was getting close to 120! This was after engine break in.

I do know that it seems that when I ride my Vespa, I have to fill it about twice as often.


We had 2 Vespa ET4's which we bought new and rode for 5 years and never did better than 48 mpg on either.

Our Buddy's on the other hand are both substantially more fuel efficient than our Et-4's ever were. I've heard some claim 70, 80 mpg on ET-4s or LX-150's but I'm a doubter...

I tend to agree with you about filling up twice as often on your LX....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ericalm wrote:
aja fresco wrote:
ericalm. do you really get 140 mpg on your new Stella 4-stroke? What is the "real world" mpg?

Certainly more than 100mpg. I haven't been diligent about tracking my mileage but the one time I did, I was getting close to 120! This was after engine break in.

I do know that it seems that when I ride my Vespa, I have to fill it about twice as often.


We had 2 Vespa ET4's which we bought new and rode for 5 years and never did better than 48 mpg on either.

Our Buddy's on the other hand are both substantially more fuel efficient than our Et-4's ever were. I've heard some claim 70, 80 mpg on ET-4s or LX-150's but I'm a doubter...

I tend to agree with you about filling up twice as often on your LX....


I used to get about 70 consistently on my carbed LX150 until I modded it extensively (190 kit, performance variator and pipe, etc.)... now I get about 58. My new, just-about-broken-in, fuel-injected LXV150ie is getting nearly 80 mpg. Belt CVTs lose a lot to friction, compared to gears, but the economy is OK on a well-tuned scoot at sea level (like I am).

Really looking forward to getting economy like Eric's on my 4T Stella, if and when it ever gets here.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver Streak wrote:
I used to get about 70 consistently on my carbed LX150 until I modded it extensively (190 kit, performance variator and pipe, etc.)... now I get about 58.

Been a long time since I tracked MPGs on my LX but I'd guess it's roughly similar (with similar mods). One reason I don't keep close track of MPGs is that eventually I just chalked it up to "damn good." But the mileage on the Stella is "damn better."

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I don't even bother to check mileage. It's too much like work and it's not going to change how I ride.

With that said my Burgman has an mpg display. I lost about 2 mpg when I changed from stock to a Clearview medium windshield. But I love the Goldwing vent in the Clearview!

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