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New to me, Used Roughhouse

 
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koneill
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Joined: 08 Jul 2019
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Location: Littleton, Colorado
2016 RoughHouse 50cc

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:52 pm    Post subject: New to me, Used Roughhouse Reply with quote

Hello everybody, back in the day I had a 2007 Roughhouse. Sadly had to sell a year later but I am back at it with a 2016 Roughhouse! Excited to get riding again.

My question is about speed, more specifically, uphill speed. I am a big rider (6'5", 220 lbs). When riding on level ground, I can get to 40-45 mph, and above on downhills). Going uphill is a bit more difficult. Sometimes it can go up a hill at 20 mph but more often then not, it struggles and may be going 10-15 mph. Is this because of my size or does this have to do with something scooter related?

thanks for your help!
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babblefish
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Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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Location: San Francisco
2006 Blur 180, 2008 Buddy St. Tropez

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see, 6'5", 220 lb rider on a 50cc scooter making 4.8 hp, 3.8 ft/lb of torque at sea level trying to climb up a hill...hmm, I would say the little guy is giving it all she's got, Captain, lol. And what's the elevation of Littleton, CO? 5350 feet or so?
Though it's possible to hop-up the engine in your Roughhouse, have you ever considered a bigger scooter? Something with fuel injection to handle the higher elevation.

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wheelbender6
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Location: Houston area
Genuine Buddy 125

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can de-restrict it and rejet. That would allow you to hit the bottom of the hill at a higher speed. Its just not going to climb like a bigger engine can climb.
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Stanza
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Joined: 29 Jan 2018
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Location: Chicago
Puch Maxi, Honda C70

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How steep a hill are we talking about? If you are topping out at 45 (indicated on the speedo) and it's able to hold an idle just fine, then you probably have a healthy top end. But if the variator components are due for replacement (belt, rollers, clean/grease the rear pulley cam), you will definitely lose some hill climbing ability.

That being said, if we're talking mountains here, you may need to consider hopping it up or looking into a larger bike.
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Dooglas
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Location: Oregon City, OR
Buddy 125, GTS300, Typhoon 125

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not consider a Hooligan? Lots more power and fuel injection.
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k1dude
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Joined: 08 Jun 2008
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Location: Northern California
'08 Orange Buddy 125

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no replacement for displacement. You need a bigger engine.

I have a Buddy 125 that struggles to do 40 mph on a few of the hills around my neighborhood. And I only live at 400 feet and weigh 155 pounds. I'm 6 feet tall.

Fortunately, the Buddy 125 is the same size as the Buddy 50. So I still have a tiny scooter, just more power in the same small package.

I personally would suggest a 200cc or more for someone your size and weight. Especially if you think you might occasionally ride 2-up. The problem is finding a scooter that will fit someone that's 6'5". I can't believe you fit on a Roughhouse.
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koneill
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Location: Littleton, Colorado
2016 RoughHouse 50cc

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes it will struggle on a hill that is only a few degrees from level. i'm just using it to putz around my immediate area with an occasional longer ride so not really interested in a more powerful scooter. I may have to look into the variator components.

thaks
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skipper20
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Joined: 10 Dec 2012
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Location: Des Moines, WA
170i

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koneill wrote:
sometimes it will struggle on a hill that is only a few degrees from level. i'm just using it to putz around my immediate area with an occasional longer ride so not really interested in a more powerful scooter. I may have to look into the variator components.

thaks


At your height and weight, you're totally miscast on a 50cc scooter. To those around you, you probably look like a 16 year old trying to ride a 6 year old's tricycle. Get real and get a bigger scooter.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skipper20 wrote:
koneill wrote:
sometimes it will struggle on a hill that is only a few degrees from level. i'm just using it to putz around my immediate area with an occasional longer ride so not really interested in a more powerful scooter. I may have to look into the variator components.

thaks


At your height and weight, you're totally miscast on a 50cc scooter. To those around you, you probably look like a 16 year old trying to ride a 6 year old's tricycle. Get real and get a bigger scooter.

Bill in Seattle
'84 Honda Gyro Red
'86 Honda Gyro S Red


In retrospect, my comments above were insensitive and inappropriate. If koneill is still on this forum, I'd like to offer an apology. You have every right to enjoy what you've purchased and to learn more about it by asking questions about its performance. I'm sorry if I offended you.

Bill in Seattle
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babblefish
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Location: San Francisco
2006 Blur 180, 2008 Buddy St. Tropez

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will help in the power department:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Malossi-72cc-Big-Bore-Kit-for-Genuine-Scooters/163763364120?epid=656225080&hash=item26210ea118:g:RQoAAOSw-89ZQXIT
You may need to rejet the carb if you install this though.

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