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Hooligan 170i User Reviews?

 
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HanShan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:50 pm    Post subject: Hooligan 170i User Reviews? Reply with quote

Anyone have a Hooligan 170i they have been riding for a while and could give me a review?

Looking to buy one. Sat on it in a dealer last year and it felt more comfortable than the buddy seating and positioning.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I owned one from August 2016 to the summer of 2017. It was a very comfortable and reliable ride, with ample low-end power with decent top end speed, good ergonomics, and a style that I thought was appropriately "tough" looking versus the Buddy series. The bigger tires and longer wheelbase absorbed a bit more of the road's irregularities and it had decent built-in storage. I wanted to keep it but it had originally been bought as a used, slightly damaged bike and I resold it for about $800 profit after fixing it up (and putting about 1,200 miles on it). Additionally, my wife loved it also and used to regularly put miles on it during commutes. The only downside to it was that they tend to be a bit expensive brand new, but used ones in good shape can be found in the high 1000's/low 2000's range if you are patient.

If I found one in the $1500 range and had the cash on hand to buy it, I would definitely consider it.
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HanShan
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that review. It would ease my anxiety to buy a new one but yes, the price differential is a bit much.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Hooligan 170i User Reviews? Reply with quote

HanShan wrote:
Anyone have a Hooligan 170i they have been riding for a while and could give me a review?

Looking to buy one. Sat on it in a dealer last year and it felt more comfortable than the buddy seating and positioning.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a 2015 Hooligan 170i this weekend, it replaced my just sold 2011 Blurr 220i, I carry this on a carrier on the back of my van so the weight reduction was a big factor in my desire to change, the hooligan has to be 70lbs lighter. The one I found was more set up for dirt and soft surface with brand new maxxis knobby tires, it also has heated grips, wind protectors for the handles and a front wind screen which were all things that I wanted. I expected a considerable power drop ... but...wow... the hooligan seems to be rev limited at 7500-8000rpm where my Blurr would continue to pull well beyond that...is there a way to open up that too end? the last third of the throttle rotation appears not to do anything..
Other than this the Hooligan is exactly what I wanted and the reduced weight makes loading and unloading it much nicer!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rev limiter is in the cdi box on my buddy 125. I suspect that your's would need an aftermarket piggyback ecu since the 170i has efi.
-The piggyback ecu boxes cost 200-350 bucks, but they are necessary if you do engine mods to prevent you from running lean.
Www.magnumtuning.com

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the magnum product, I was searching to see if anyone had tried them on a Hooligan/Buddy 170i but haven't found any reviews. Thanks for the confirmation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read on another site that the 170i engine will overheat quicker than the 220i engine. That may be why the rev limiter is set lower on the Hooligan.
-i also read that the Hooligan does not have a spin-on oil filter like the Buddy 170i. I don't know if that makes it more difficult to add an oil cooler.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take a look at the oil cooler configuration...I did get a chance to take it out for a couple of short hwy blast, 67mph indicated at 8000rpm...felt more like 57mph but plenty for a scoot..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read the same complaints about Hooligans having issues with heat but I've never experienced it. I ran the one that I had at some pretty high heat levels during the Texas summer and never had an issue with the engine running in any way but strong. Doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, but it just never happened to me. My skepticism on problems reported on the internet is that they tend to get overblown at times because folks with positive experiences rarely go online and rave about how great their bike ran in heat, for instance. My Hooligan, probably like every other Hooligan and scooters in general, ran 10-12% slower than the speedometer reading.
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