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BuddyRaton
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:32 pm    Post subject: Dragster on the dyno Reply with quote

Saturday Riva Yamaha in Pompano Beach had a Block Party with a free show so we entered.

They also had a dyno and would give you a run for free. This is my 2000 Italjet Dragster 180 2T water cooled with a Malossi 172 kit, PM Tuning 360 chamber and other expensive stuff.

This is the Team Scooter Trash 2020 Scooter Cannonball Run bike.

https://youtu.be/HEfTZJj6t5U

23.5hp, 19.9 ft/lbs, 84 mph in less than 8 secs

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing like a properly tweaked 2-T!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2020 is too long for vintage. 4,250 miles in 10 days. There are a bunch of Super Cubs, interested to see how they hold up. There are also many large TNGs, up to 273cc and the SMax is a popular choice.

I have a 104% handicap and I'm feeling good. This is my third so I know what I'm in for but no shifting this time.

It's time to go true "timed endurancing". With this bike I need to ride smart and well. No need to ride stupid or hammer the bike too hard.

Two stroke smoke - it's what's for breakfast!

Team Scooter Trash is back baby!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NICE!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep us informed on how you get on during the Cannonball. It looks like a nice northerly route.

You've got the right machine for it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super cool! I still like the first gen ones so much!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting choice for the Cannonball!

My 70cc kits can suck up a lot of gas - How much fuel do you plan on carrying? There are some long days for the Cannonball route; will be interesting to follow your progress.

How to get to see the participants at Gaylord on July 6th.

Good Luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dan v. wrote:
Interesting choice for the Cannonball!

How much fuel do you plan on carrying?

Good Luck!



A lot. 1 to 2 fuel stops a day Mr. Green

Altitude will the biggest challenge.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh! this is gonna rock!

I think that's the same HP as my vespa 300, but much lighter Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skully93 wrote:
oh! this is gonna rock!

I think that's the same HP as my vespa 300, but much lighter Razz


Actually this Dragster is making a lot more horsepower. That 23.5 hp is at the wheel, the Vespa 300 HPE makes about 19 hp at the wheel, a regular Vespa 300 makes about 17 hp.

A stock Dragster 180 has a dry weight of about 235 pounds(that's about the same weight as a Buddy 125, but the 125 only has 9.5 hp.)

You can see a dyno run by a Vespa 300 and 300 HPE in this video, skip to 2:53 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeSY9VhEVqE
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also swapped for a lithium ion battery and shed about 8 or 9 pounds. I figure by the time I'm set up with spare fuel, water to drink with rider total weight should be about 415 to 450 lbs.

The GTSs get hammered with a handicap of about 124% I'm running an older smaller displacement so I am at 104%

To understand that if the GTS runs a leg in 100 minutes they are receive 124 points. If I run the same leg in 100 minutes I score 104 points.

I'm not worried about the big modern bikes. The baseline for me is to outrun a 1987 Helix and I have that covered. I have higher cruising speed, a ton more torque, handling nailed down, and most of the helix guys...well it would be like me carrying a 94 Lb. sack of dry cement with me.

My 2003 BV 200 is the backup for now. Same motor at the GT 200 but tubular frame sheds a lot of weight and the 16-inch wheels make it very smooth. Personally...too easy for me.

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