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Buddy 170i Riding 50-55 MPH for extended time?

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 12:03 am    Post subject: Buddy 170i Riding 50-55 MPH for extended time? Reply with quote

Recently purchased a 170i 18k miles seems to run great. Around town its nice but out on the highway it seems to be working a bit hard. Did an run through the highway at about 50 - 60 for about an hour and (other than using most of my gas) it seems just fine. But it sounds a bit abused. Of course that is the nature of the size. Just wondering if its really made for that or if I am asking for it to blow up. At some point I am going to get a proper 300-500 cc Motorcycle but its not quite the time for that yet.

I actually like it I just don't want to kill it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 170i for a while. One of the times I was on the freeway, it became overworked and went into limp mode. I had to wait 20 minutes for it to cool down, and continue on my way without the freeway. I moved up to a Vespa GT200. Solved all my issues on speed. The 170i is great scooter, but no really cut out for extended high speeds.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be fine.

My 125cc then 161cc has seen many extended highway trips.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found the Buddy to be a very reliable and durable ride. I suspect it will do what you ask. On the other hand, I am with DeeDee. If long distances at near top speed is what you need done, liquid cooled scooters are probably a better choice.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JettaKnight wrote:
It'll be fine.

My 125cc then 161cc has seen many extended highway trips.


Do you have an oil cooler? I'm wondering if I should install one.

Also did you use the stock head or an aftermarket big valve head (and if so did it make a difference)?
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

55-60MPH is not issue for a 170i on flat roads with no headwind. All day is easy on this scoot'.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNWbuddy wrote:
JettaKnight wrote:
It'll be fine.

My 125cc then 161cc has seen many extended highway trips.


Do you have an oil cooler? I'm wondering if I should install one.

Also did you use the stock head or an aftermarket big valve head (and if so did it make a difference)?


Big valve head.

No oil cooler, but I rotated (90 deg counterclockwise) the air intake on the right side to point forward to act as a cooling air scoop.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JettaKnight wrote:
PNWbuddy wrote:
JettaKnight wrote:
It'll be fine.

My 125cc then 161cc has seen many extended highway trips.


Do you have an oil cooler? I'm wondering if I should install one.

Also did you use the stock head or an aftermarket big valve head (and if so did it make a difference)?


Big valve head.

No oil cooler, but I rotated (90 deg counterclockwise) the air intake on the right side to point forward to act as a cooling air scoop.


Thanks, I'm still trying to get an honest 60mph out of my 125 with 161 big bore. Lots of low end torque/power but very limited top speed. Tried jetting, bigger carb, windscreen, Dr Pulley sliders all with no improvement, still only 53-54mph (60 indicated) even down long hills. I have a NCY big valve head that I will eventually get to installing. Unfortunately will have to pull the cylinder because with the big valve head a thinner base gasket is used.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNWbuddy wrote:

Thanks, I'm still trying to get an honest 60mph out of my 125 with 161 big bore. Lots of low end torque/power but very limited top speed. Tried jetting, bigger carb, windscreen, Dr Pulley sliders all with no improvement, still only 53-54mph (60 indicated) even down long hills. I have a NCY big valve head that I will eventually get to installing. Unfortunately will have to pull the cylinder because with the big valve head a thinner base gasket is used.


I have all that, and right now 60 bmph is about it on the flat. I think the CDI is choking at WOT.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check final drive gear ratios for 125 vs. 170i.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try running without the air box. Maybe the restriction is upstream of the carb?
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW I also tried a "performance" cdi, not restricted, no difference.

And bought final drive gears advertised to fit, they didn't.

When I get to installing the big valve head I'll try a pod filter but I doubt that intake modifications will help as the 125 already shares the same filter and box as larger 150 and 170i
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there's only so much you can do when you start with a 125cc motor and 10" wheels...
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Buddy 170i Riding 50-55 MPH for extended time? Reply with quote

singletracker wrote:
Recently purchased a 170i 18k miles seems to run great. Around town its nice but out on the highway it seems to be working a bit hard. Did an run through the highway at about 50 - 60 for about an hour and (other than using most of my gas) it seems just fine. But it sounds a bit abused. Of course that is the nature of the size. Just wondering if its really made for that or if I am asking for it to blow up. At some point I am going to get a proper 300-500 cc Motorcycle but its not quite the time for that yet.

I actually like it I just don't want to kill it.


When riding on the highway for a long period of time at or near top speed, you need to vary your speed a bit. This was my experience with my Hooligan 170i on some of the back roads in southern Arizona.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are consistently doing long time periods at top speed on a highway i would be looking at a bigger bike that had a little extra top end...i wouldn't even think of taking a 125 out on the highway around here...even my tw200 i wouldn't take on the highway...i need to be able to top out at 90mph+ cause everyone here drives 80mph...i think the smallest bike i would take on the highway here would be a duke 390
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