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Convert dead turn-signals/switch into xtra running lights?

 
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SirLexelot
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Convert dead turn-signals/switch into xtra running lights? Reply with quote

Hey all,

so has anyone yet figured out how to turn the dead turn-signal lights on the Buddy into additional running lights that can be controlled from the dead light switch on the right handle bar? Any ideas on the necessary wiring, or what kind of repacement bulbs to use?

Visibility is always a concern for me, so I'd love to throw a halogen bulb in the main headlight and perhaps LEDs or smaller halogens in the turn signals.

Also I've read that other drivers have an easier time gauging your distance and approaching speed if there are multiple points of light clearly visible. It's not simply a matter of being more bright, it's also the fact that there are multiple points for the brain's depth-perception to use as a reference. I hear one of the biggest reasons other drivers are stupid and pull out in front of 2-wheeled vehicles is that they don't accurately judge the vehicle's distance and speed. Much as we'd love to just write them all off as morons... Wink

Anyway, I'm not much of an electrician, but I'm fairly technologically competent. So I was just looking for guidance on doing this mod. Thanks to anyone/everyone for any suggestions or comments!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: halogen headlight bulb Reply with quote

haven't tried to convert the top turn signals to running lights,
but here's a thread on the halogen headlight bulb...

http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/topic492.html

read through all there...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the mechs at Tulsa Scooters told me that it was pretty easy to restore the turn signals to the originals to double up on the signals or set them up as running lights. I'm thinking of running some wires to do just that.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elm Creek Smith wrote:
One of the mechs at Tulsa Scooters told me that it was pretty easy to restore the turn signals to the originals to double up on the signals or set them up as running lights. I'm thinking of running some wires to do just that.

ECS


There's a tutorial for doing just that here.

The dead lights is one of my "what were they thinking?" issues with the Buddy. It's something that I feel was rushed when converting the PGO for US but could have been easily fixed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that's totally cool for running extra turn signals, but I think I'm in the minority due to the fact that I don't mind the DOT turn signals at all.

I'm more interested in making use of the dead light switch, and turning the signals into additional running lights. Does anyone have instructions for wiring the lights to the dead switch?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirLexelot wrote:
So that's totally cool for running extra turn signals, but I think I'm in the minority due to the fact that I don't mind the DOT turn signals at all.

I'm more interested in making use of the dead light switch, and turning the signals into additional running lights. Does anyone have instructions for wiring the lights to the dead switch?


That's come up in a few otehr threads, but to my knowledge no one has been able to rewire the dead switch (yet).

I think the stock lights on the Buddy are, overall, insufficient and that night visibility is poor. So here's my plan for our Buddy:

- replace the DOT turn signals with other, better-looking lights
- rewire the stock signals as running lights
- replace all bulbs, including headlight
- replace oval orange reflectors on front forks (I kind of hate these) with a band of reflective tape
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really want to use those dead turn signals as running lights also, but I'd rather just hook them into the headlight than worry about using the superfluous on/off switch. I'll save that for something else later maybe.
Do you think there would be any issues or problems w/ just hooking them up as running lights w/ the headlight?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScooterMonkey wrote:
I really want to use those dead turn signals as running lights also, but I'd rather just hook them into the headlight than worry about using the superfluous on/off switch. I'll save that for something else later maybe.
Do you think there would be any issues or problems w/ just hooking them up as running lights w/ the headlight?

Wouldn't you like to play guinea pig and just split the wires and see what happens? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ericalm wrote:
ScooterMonkey wrote:
I really want to use those dead turn signals as running lights also, but I'd rather just hook them into the headlight than worry about using the superfluous on/off switch. I'll save that for something else later maybe.
Do you think there would be any issues or problems w/ just hooking them up as running lights w/ the headlight?

Wouldn't you like to play guinea pig and just split the wires and see what happens? Smile

Well I guess I'll be the first one to try then. I'm working today so I'll do it tomorrow.
Any suggestions on brighter bulbs for my "running lights"...halogen or something else?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScooterMonkey wrote:
Well I guess I'll be the first one to try then. I'm working today so I'll do it tomorrow.
Any suggestions on brighter bulbs for my "running lights"...halogen or something else?


From this thread on halogen headlight bulbs:

ebcspace wrote:
changed out all of the turn signal bulbs with 1156NA bulbs...

available at any AutoZone, PepBoys, etc...

they are much, much, brighter! ,(only $2.99 for each pair)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, it's late, & I'm tired so I'll just say I DID IT! I am soo cool!. And of course post a pic of the proof.
Pics & details will come tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I can't wait to see it. Is it hard?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AWESOME!!! I can't wait to hear how you did it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hooked up the OEM blinkers and the DOT blinkers this evening in less than half an hour from open to close. The wife is happy because the more blinking lights, the less likely I get smushed by someone who didn't see me.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScooterMonkey wrote:
Ok, it's late, & I'm tired so I'll just say I DID IT! I am soo cool!. And of course post a pic of the proof.
Pics & details will come tomorrow.
Mr. Green Clown Cool

dude, that is rad.... i just turned the DOT turn signal brackets around to tuck them underneath the handlebars, but those lights are badass... now i really have to come down to temptown.... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

which set of turn signals did you use???
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about the delay in posting pics & details...it's been a busy day. I promise to have them up tonight, or tomorrow latest.
brat wrote:
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which set of turn signals did you use???
The dead set on the front body of the scoot.
sparty wrote:
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Man, I can't wait to see it. Is it hard?
No it's not hard. I did it, & i'm a mechanical idiot. It did require a couple of hours, & lots of patience.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. That's pretty mod for an Asian scoot! I'm sure you'll get even more people telling you they love your "Vespa." But, really, one of the reasons I love the Buddy. You can make it almost anything you want.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job scootermonkey! How about alittle write up? What bulbs did you use etc. I wired into the turn signals but I really like what you have done and may go that way
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