Modern Buddy

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:27 am**

So, its happened. I've gone off the deep end.

I got a incredible deal on this:

<img src="http://www.voodoo-buddy.com/vespa-motor.jpg">

Yes, that is infact the engine from a 2007 Vespa GTS 250.
Yes, it is infact going to go into my Buddy.

I'll have the world's first Voodoo Buddy GTS 250.
Stay tuned for more info and pictures when the motor shows up in a few days.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:51 am**

Ahhh your a sick little scooter boy!

NICE!

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:54 am**

Where's your Buddy motor gonna go???

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:04 am**

nissanman wrote:Where's you Buddy motor gonna go???

Not sure yet. You interested in it?

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:13 am**

I'm excited for this! We Oregonians are crazy;)

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:41 am**

that is totaly insane!

I'm sure many of us will be following this closely, just don't hurt yourself too badly when you've got it all hooked up

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:43 am**

jasondavis48108 wrote:that is totaly insane!

I'm sure many of us will be following this closely, just don't hurt yourself too badly when you've got it all hooked up

Heh, I don't PLAN on hurting myself at all

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:51 am**

Kaos wrote:
jasondavis48108 wrote:that is totaly insane!

I'm sure many of us will be following this closely, just don't hurt yourself too badly when you've got it all hooked up
Heh, I don't PLAN on hurting myself at all

well you know what they say, the road to hell is paved with modifications

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:06 am**

I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:07 am**

jijifer wrote:I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.

I can understand that with the 10" wheels, but why the plastics? There's plenty of bikes FAR more powerful than that that are plastic. Like the 900+cc street bikes for example.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:12 am**

I don't know, I think as long as you can get tires rated for the higher speed you'll be fine. I would guess that stock, the engine wouldn't go much faster than your already clocked 88mph.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:14 am**

jasondavis48108 wrote:I don't know, I think as long as you can get tires rated for the higher speed you'll be fine. I would guess that stock, the engine wouldn't go much faster than your already clocked 88mph.

Well, official top speed of a GTS is 80mph. The Buddy is a LOT lighter though.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:19 am**

Kaos wrote:
jasondavis48108 wrote:I don't know, I think as long as you can get tires rated for the higher speed you'll be fine. I would guess that stock, the engine wouldn't go much faster than your already clocked 88mph.
Well, official top speed of a GTS is 80mph. The Buddy is a LOT lighter though.

Yeah, that's true. What are you figuring the top speed will be with this build, any ideas? I'm assuming that you're shooting for triple digits so long as you can find some tires that will hold up to those speeds.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:07 am**

I am excited to watch this happen. Lots of work ahead.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:09 am**

Kaos wrote:
jijifer wrote:I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.
I can understand that with the 10" wheels, but why the plastics? There's plenty of bikes FAR more powerful than that that are plastic. Like the 900+cc street bikes for example.

I just wonder if these plastics are good for that torque. Are those other bikes held together with little tabs far and few between? how much more torque does that have? it's top speed is pulling something that weighs 150lbs more. so it'll be way faster in such a light frame. I just wonder if that light frame can really support the torque. We see how much vibration the buddy gets with just 161cc - it's shaking pipes loose!

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:13 am**

You're crazy Kaos. Don't ever change

I can't wait to read the reports. I have to admit though, I am also curious to see if the frame can handle that much VooDoo.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:14 am**

jasondavis48108 wrote:
well you know what they say, the road to hell is paved with modifications

LOL!!!

This is gonna be good!

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:37 pm**

You just love raising the bar!!!! Impossible to keep up with you Mr. Jones!

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:45 pm**

bigbropgo wrote:I am excited to watch this happen. Lots of work ahead.

I'd guess its going to be able to hit triple digits, and yes I'm gonna try if I can find tires that'll do it

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:51 pm**

jijifer wrote:
Kaos wrote:
jijifer wrote:I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.
I can understand that with the 10" wheels, but why the plastics? There's plenty of bikes FAR more powerful than that that are plastic. Like the 900+cc street bikes for example.
I just wonder if these plastics are good for that torque. Are those other bikes held together with little tabs far and few between? how much more torque does that have? it's top speed is pulling something that weighs 150lbs more. so it'll be way faster in such a light frame. I just wonder if that light frame can really support the torque. We see how much vibration the buddy gets with just 161cc - it's shaking pipes loose!

The front fairing on my friend's GSX-R is held on almost exactly like the Buddy's so I THINK it'll be ok.

The GTS is rated at 25HP at 16.2FT/LBS torque, vs a STOCK 125's 9.5HP (no idea what the torque is)
So I may have to do some frame reenforcement. We'll see once I start getting things installed.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:01 pm**

Yea no worries Kaos the frame will hold up just fine under that motor. However I wonder if the wheel splines line up from the buddy. Are all the electronics and radiator included in the sale?

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:08 pm**

NASRA wrote:Yea no worries Kaos the frame will hold up just fine under that motor. However I wonder if the wheel splines line up from the buddy. Are all the electronics and radiator included in the sale?

I'm not yet sure about the wheel splines, I'm hoping as I'd like to keep the 10" wheel. The full wiring harness, electronics, and radiator are included, so I just need to get a pipe, and maybe a wheel.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:09 pm**

Are the buddy motors top or bottom mount?

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:10 pm**

NASRA wrote:Are the buddy motors top or bottom mount?

Buddy is top mount I *THINK*, the GTS motor is bottom mount, so definitely some fab work there to install it.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:12 pm**

Maybe ask if you can have the stock motor mount?

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:13 pm**

NASRA wrote:Maybe ask if you can have the stock motor mount?

I'm hoping they'll let me have it, I asked but the owner is outa town till Monday, so we'll see what they say. It'd make things easier for sure.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:56 pm**

K,
Cannot wait to see the results.
Get crackin on this project, what are you sitting around this forum for????

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:32 pm**

Great project! I am anxious to start seeing pictures. Worlds fastest Buddy, w00t!

Howard

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:38 pm**

monamibuddy wrote:K,
Cannot wait to see the results.
Get crackin on this project, what are you sitting around this forum for????

Still waiting for all the parts to get here. And I had to order the engine mount as the person I ordered the engine from didn't have one.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:39 pm**

Kaos wrote:
monamibuddy wrote:K,
Cannot wait to see the results.
Get crackin on this project, what are you sitting around this forum for????
Still waiting for all the parts to get here. And I had to order the engine mount as the person I ordered the engine from didn't have one.

You have an answer for everything don't cha?

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:54 pm**

Kaos;

I thought you might want to see this: http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic32797
It’s a small Vespa with a big motor.

How is your project coming along?

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:22 am**

rajron wrote:Kaos;

I thought you might want to see this: http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic32797
It’s a small Vespa with a big motor.

How is your project coming along?

Awesome find! I just got a call from my shipper saying my engine is on the way. I'm on pins and needles!

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:49 am**

There's fantastic info in that post about using the LX final drive assembly to put the 10" wheel on

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:37 am**

GREAT GOOGLEY MOOGLEY!

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:40 pm**

Something occurred to me... where are you going to stuff the radiator so that it gets air?

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:41 pm**

Lostmycage wrote:Something occurred to me... where are you going to stuff the radiator so that it gets air?

I've got two thoughts on that. I've got the oil cooler bracket kicking around from a 150, so I may mount it underneath the body where the oil cooler would be. The other option is to run it all the way to the front and install it under the front plastics.

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:57 pm**

Are you keeping your buddy orange or are you planning to paint it. I know it is a little off topic:)

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:03 pm**

Mr Miller wrote:Are you keeping your buddy orange or are you planning to paint it. I know it is a little off topic:)

I like the orange. Quite a few of my vehicles over the years have been that color, I'm gonna keep it.

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:20 pm**

Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:24 pm**

Mr Miller wrote:Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)

Yeah, that would be a pain

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:50 pm**

Kaos wrote:
Mr Miller wrote:Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)
Yeah, that would be a pain

you should get that as a tattoo

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:53 pm**

BootScootin'FireFighter wrote:
Kaos wrote:
Mr Miller wrote:Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)
Yeah, that would be a pain
you should get that as a tattoo

It could end up being a real pain in the ass... but I don't think I want to know if it does.

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:13 pm**

Lostmycage wrote:
BootScootin'FireFighter wrote:
Kaos wrote: Yeah, that would be a pain
you should get that as a tattoo
It could end up being a real pain in the ass... but I don't think I want to know if it does.

Yeah, no tukus tattooing for me. I'll stick to the Voodoo Buddy patch on my Jacket.

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:53 pm**

Woo! Just got notification my engine will be here TOMORROW!

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:23 am**

Just another thought...

Is it going to be too much torque for the Buddy's transmission and gear box?
Probably not but I was just wondering.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:28 am**

Tocsik wrote:Just another thought...

Is it going to be too much torque for the Buddy's transmission and gear box?
Probably not but I was just wondering.

The buddy's transmission is part of the motor, so that goes out the door with the 161, to be replaced by the 250's trans.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:32 am**

Uh, yep. I'm an idiot.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:05 am**

Kaos wrote:Woo! Just got notification my engine will be here TOMORROW!

I met you in the spring. You seemed pretty normal. But you really are nuts, aren't you?

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:19 am**

Syd wrote:
Kaos wrote:Woo! Just got notification my engine will be here TOMORROW!
I met you in the spring. You seemed pretty normal. But you really are nuts, aren't you?

I'm really good at that whole 'blending in' thing. Ask my wife, I'm two bolts short of batty with my vehicles(And most other things...) You should see my Drag strip certified pro street 1970 Plymouth 9 passenger station wagon

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:35 am**

No sh!t Kaos, I went to the store yesterday & found a skull chrome tire valve cap in the parkinglot , which I wasn't aware was so common. Thought of you & the voodoo before I realized your way beyond that! GO FAST

Modern Buddy

Project: BIG BAD VOODOO BUDDY

Project: BIG BAD VOODOO BUDDY

cannot wait

Re: cannot wait

Re: cannot wait