finished.... nm :( need help
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finished.... nm :( need help
Thank you to everyone who helped me in here i finished my first jetting @_@ the gas line that i know snapped but had alittle room to use still
so ill take rose to get a carb check up to see how i did and to fix anything i pooped on XD
anyways thank you all again
so ill take rose to get a carb check up to see how i did and to fix anything i pooped on XD
anyways thank you all again
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I always feel a little embarrassed when one of my "repair" jobs ends up at the dealer.
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Adjust the air/fuel mix?wifiducky wrote:well sadly i may end up at a dealer or a shop i tryed both the 95 and the 100 and both still show a lean plug idk what to do next HELP all i did was put a prima pipe on
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What throttle positions or speeds are you testing at? As I understand it, the main jet is more half- to full-throttle fuel mix. Lower speeds will still have you on the idle jet. That's where the air/fuel mix screw comes into play.
Here's the link that was really helpful for me.
http://www.battlescooter.com/1.html
(Credit to Kaos from his voodoo-buddy site. I didn't find it myself.)
Here's the link that was really helpful for me.
http://www.battlescooter.com/1.html
(Credit to Kaos from his voodoo-buddy site. I didn't find it myself.)
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Keep at it and keep track of what you are doing.
How are you determining thatyou are lean?
Keep at it and keep notes of what you are doing.
Example: (not a recommendation for setup!)
100jet
Backed off mixture screw 1 full turn
Plug chop white...lean.
Bolting stuff on is the easy part, getting it all dialed in is the tricky...and to me...the fun part.
How are you determining thatyou are lean?
Keep at it and keep notes of what you are doing.
Example: (not a recommendation for setup!)
100jet
Backed off mixture screw 1 full turn
Plug chop white...lean.
Bolting stuff on is the easy part, getting it all dialed in is the tricky...and to me...the fun part.
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oh i lost track a long time ago XD (week ago add time) i put my #100 in and turned the mixture screw over and over each time taking the buddy out for a 5-10 min ride each time then checked the plug every time the plug turned out whiteBuddyRaton wrote:Keep at it and keep track of what you are doing.
How are you determining thatyou are lean?
Keep at it and keep notes of what you are doing.
Example: (not a recommendation for setup!)
100jet
Backed off mixture screw 1 full turn
Plug chop white...lean.
Bolting stuff on is the easy part, getting it all dialed in is the tricky...and to me...the fun part.
it makes no sense to me now idk if i may be turning the mixture screw the wrong way? i was told if its next to the engine end it was fuel so i turned it CClock maybe i need to try clockwise uug
p.s. sorry if i make no sense o.o it is 3am after all XD
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+1TVB wrote:I'm always pleased when one of my "repair" jobs doesn't end up at a dealer... )
As someone (female) with zero mechanical experience and no lessons from anyone with experience (except here, of course), one thing I love about my Buddy is the sense of accomplishment of doing something totally foreign and getting it (mostly) right. ... Even if sometimes it takes me 3 hours to do a 30-minute job.
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It took me 3 attempts to complete my first oil change, mostly because I didn't have the right tools. (I still need more/better tools!) My sense of accomplishment after that one: HUGE.sunshinen wrote:+1TVB wrote:I'm always pleased when one of my "repair" jobs doesn't end up at a dealer... )
As someone (female) with zero mechanical experience and no lessons from anyone with experience (except here, of course), one thing I love about my Buddy is the sense of accomplishment of doing something totally foreign and getting it (mostly) right. ... Even if sometimes it takes me 3 hours to do a 30-minute job.
Now, when I have my transmission splayed across my driveway and am up to my elbows in grease and muck, I am happy as a clam!
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I have no doubt that I could not only change my oil (if I needed to), and – with the proper tools – completely disassemble and reassemble the whole scooter. For example, I'm fearlessly competent at diagnosing and repairing computers. (I've even successfully upgraded the RAM on a 1st-gen Rev.A iMac.) But in a world full of CSS3, CS5, Obj-C, USB3, eSATAp, 802.11x, HTML5, PCIe, PHP5, IPv6, WebM, and other things competing for finite synaptic pattern space inside my head, and finite time in my days (and remaining years), I choose to let others fully experience internal combustion engine on my behalf.ericalm wrote:It took me 3 attempts to complete my first oil change, mostly because I didn't have the right tools. (I still need more/better tools!) My sense of accomplishment after that one: HUGE.
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Hi Ducky, let me understand. You put on a Prima pipe and now you're trying to sort out the jetting? If that's all you did, you're in the proper range. You're overly lean mixture may be caused by something else. Can you post a decent picture of the plug?
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125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
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Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
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Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
NCY Secondary Shieve
UNI filter
125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
1500RPM Clutch Springs
Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
NCY Front Forks
Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
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Sounds like the exhaust isn't secured tight enough to form a seal at the crush gasket.
Take it off and look at the gasket. If there's a large black smudge, buy a new gasket and reinstall making sure to securely tighten the nuts (with the lock washers). If there's a gap, you'll run lean (and like crap).
Take it off and look at the gasket. If there's a large black smudge, buy a new gasket and reinstall making sure to securely tighten the nuts (with the lock washers). If there's a gap, you'll run lean (and like crap).
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Usually if that's the case you'll also get some popping (backfiring) from the exhaust.Lostmycage wrote:Sounds like the exhaust isn't secured tight enough to form a seal at the crush gasket.
Take it off and look at the gasket. If there's a large black smudge, buy a new gasket and reinstall making sure to securely tighten the nuts (with the lock washers). If there's a gap, you'll run lean (and like crap).
Prima pipe
UNI filter
125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
1500RPM Clutch Springs
Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
NCY Front Forks
Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
NCY Secondary Shieve
UNI filter
125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
1500RPM Clutch Springs
Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
NCY Front Forks
Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
NCY Secondary Shieve
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Yep. I'm betting that symptom wasn't mentioned.djelliott wrote:Usually if that's the case you'll also get some popping (backfiring) from the exhaust.Lostmycage wrote:Sounds like the exhaust isn't secured tight enough to form a seal at the crush gasket.
Take it off and look at the gasket. If there's a large black smudge, buy a new gasket and reinstall making sure to securely tighten the nuts (with the lock washers). If there's a gap, you'll run lean (and like crap).
Check out Scoot Richmond's new site: My awesome local shop.
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Dahaha, I was thinking that maybe it wasn't either.Lostmycage wrote:Yep. I'm betting that symptom wasn't mentioned.djelliott wrote:Usually if that's the case you'll also get some popping (backfiring) from the exhaust.Lostmycage wrote:Sounds like the exhaust isn't secured tight enough to form a seal at the crush gasket.
Take it off and look at the gasket. If there's a large black smudge, buy a new gasket and reinstall making sure to securely tighten the nuts (with the lock washers). If there's a gap, you'll run lean (and like crap).
Prima pipe
UNI filter
125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
1500RPM Clutch Springs
Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
NCY Front Forks
Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
NCY Secondary Shieve
UNI filter
125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
1500RPM Clutch Springs
Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
NCY Front Forks
Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
NCY Secondary Shieve
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to make it easy im going to reply on this one XD i dont really have a good photo at the moment and now i need to buy a new plug cause it turned 100% black :/ i dont get it i tryed over and over with a lean turn out and bam its black so im saving to take it to my local dealer have it done right :/ i hate to pay even more but i cant stand having her off the roaddjelliott wrote:Dahaha, I was thinking that maybe it wasn't either.Lostmycage wrote:Yep. I'm betting that symptom wasn't mentioned.djelliott wrote: Usually if that's the case you'll also get some popping (backfiring) from the exhaust.
to much work for my first try i haven't even changed the oil yet XD plus im getting the big bore and Decompression Tube Assembly put on so why do it myself when it will need to be changed again i
i do know my carb now i just dont want to burn out my engine
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With a 95 or 100 main I can't think of any way you would be running too lean or blow out your motor. No offense but I just don't think you're going about reading your plug right. I think since you are getting all of that other work done, letting the shop dial it in would be best. I don't want to discourage you but carb tuning is the definition of pure voodoo. You best slay a chicken and say a pray before you start. I've been working on carburated motors for some time and know guys that have been doing it for as long as I've been alive (38 years incase you might want to know) and they/we still come across certain carbs and pipe/intake setups the just don't want to play nice. Good luck and keep that investigative spirit. It's never a bad thing to learn more about what makes your stuff tick.
Prima pipe
UNI filter
125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
1500RPM Clutch Springs
Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
NCY Front Forks
Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
NCY Secondary Shieve
UNI filter
125 Main Jet
2000RPM Stall Spring
1500RPM Clutch Springs
Dr. Pulley Variator with 11 Gram Sliders
NCY Front Forks
Prima/NCY 161cc Big Bore kit With 150 Head
KS Power GY6 Performance Springs
NCY Secondary Shieve
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non taken though i cant say i was reading it right or wrong all im going by is the internet on how it needs to look and it was black around the thread at the top and the little Center electrode was white as snow but i as well think its a good idea to take it to someone who knows bestdjelliott wrote:With a 95 or 100 main I can't think of any way you would be running too lean or blow out your motor. No offense but I just don't think you're going about reading your plug right. I think since you are getting all of that other work done, letting the shop dial it in would be best. I don't want to discourage you but carb tuning is the definition of pure voodoo. You best slay a chicken and say a pray before you start. I've been working on carburated motors for some time and know guys that have been doing it for as long as I've been alive (38 years incase you might want to know) and they/we still come across certain carbs and pipe/intake setups the just don't want to play nice. Good luck and keep that investigative spirit. It's never a bad thing to learn more about what makes your stuff tick.
and the voodoo is what im looking to end up with so any pain for it is worth it in my mind