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http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625 ... l-24471051

This is amazing, I'm not sure I understand this owner's business logic. Anyone in the Phoenix area ever been to this place?
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the owner clearly only has his wallet in mind. having said that, looks tasty. i'd try it.
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That is disgusting. My GF and I have watched multiple videos bout this place and we are scared of it (and disgusted by the food).
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It's the honesty that people have trouble facing. The actual food served at Heart Attack Grille is no different from food served any one of millions of other establishments. But no one said a word about that. HAG is just calling it what it is.

How much a customer eats is purely the customers choice. HAG has just used tongue-in-cheek reverse psychology to approach marketing from 180º's the opposite direction. And very successfully too. Really it is the most honest marketing I've seen. A film called Super Size Me had to be made before people recognized the danger McDonald's food. And still millions eat there.

In the honesty of their name alone I'd say HAG is doing more to focus attention on bad eating habits than 99% of other restaurants do. And let's face it, if they didn't serve burgers, fries, and shakes, there are 100,000,000's of other places that do.
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This is a amazing story. I live in Tucson and I have been to the Heart Attack Grill. Delish. The man that passed away has a mind of his own. He made the choice and went with that. The owner has a point if you wont pay attention to your health well we all know the out come. By the way you don't have to be fat to have a heart attack from unhealthy food. I think that is what he might be saying in a underlying agenda. I know men and women that eat so poorly but because there skinny the community as a whole across the United States read that as they must be healthy which is not always the case. That is a automatic conclusions that is made by Americans all the time. Judging a person by face value. That person could be skinny and eat the most unhealthy food for your body but again people see them and make assumption they are healthy because they are skinny. If your in Az check out the Heart Attack Grill its delish.
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The owner of this place is crazy... like a fox. The association between "things that are bad for you" and "things you enjoy" is so strong that a marketing angle like this is bound to succeed. It's practically our culture's motto: "nothing succeeds like excess".

When I was a kid we went to an ice cream parlor which sold a huge ice cream dish called the Pig's Trough, which gave you an "I made a pig of myself" ribbon if you finished it. Our local minor league baseball stadium, named after 5th/3rd Bank, sells a popular burger that infamously contains 5/3 pounds of meat. (That's before they add the nacho cheese, sour cream, and Fritos.)

Especially now that we're hearing more about the need to eat healthfully, that fuels people's desire to indulge in the opposite.
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Plisar wrote:That is disgusting. My GF and I have watched multiple videos bout this place and we are scared of it (and disgusted by the food).
Just curious...but if you're scared and disgusted why do you keep watching multiple videos?
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they have been on my list of palces to dine for a while

but then again this is comeing from a guy who will have squeaky cheese for breakfast
and then go and eat deep fried chees and fried smelt for lunch

do i know it could be bad for me sure i do

do i eat stuff like that every day no

the guy that died made his own choices he knew what he was doing if you choose to turn a blind eye to your diet well its your choice

you cant blame the guy that made the burgers you ate he didnt shove them down your throat
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Smiley13 wrote:If your in Az check out the Heart Attack Grill its delish.
I don't doubt that it's a tasty burger. I'm a big fan of White Castle back home, Five Guys here in the Mid-Atlantic, and if I'm out West, I look for In & Out. I love a good burger and fries. That is an occassional feat for me. I no way consider it nutritious or fulfilling, just a tasty treat which will require something considerably healthy to wash it down or balance it out. It's empty calories and I'm aware of that. What I find disturbing is how obesity is being glorified. Allowing people over 350lbs to eat free? That's only adding fuel to their fire, and even if they're not being forced to eat, food is still an addiction that many people struggle with, as well as a coping mechanism for depression. The whole "kids eat free" is aimed at getting families to dine out more and making it easier on Mom and Dad's checkbook, and not a big loss for the establishment since kids don't eat much and eventually grow up. I wouldn't go there out of principle, but go to the In & Out down the block!

FYI, I won't step foot in a McDonalds anymore, seen how dirty they're kept, and how their crap is made... wouldn't even call it "food". McD's also make for some interesting fires.
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BootScootin'FireFighter wrote:FYI, I won't step foot in a McDonalds anymore, seen how dirty they're kept, and how their crap is made... wouldn't even call it "food". McD's also make for some interesting fires.
I kind of take that personally; the restaurant I work at is an extremely well-maintained facility. Food safety and cleanliness are ALWAYS top priorities - monitoring food temperatures, observing and enforcing hold times - all that good stuff.

But then again, I may work in a restaurant that is the exception, not the rule.
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BuddyRaton wrote: Just curious...but if you're scared and disgusted why do you keep watching multiple videos?
We're both academically curious, so we tend to research things that interest us. The strange psychology of that place is just interesting.

Moreover, the difference between a McDonalds, Red Robin, and that place, is the fact that at least at the first two, they do have menu items that are at least low in calories. They serve diet sodas and low calorie beverages. There isn't even a salad at the heart attack grill. If you get dragged their by a friend, there is nothing anyone could eat that you could construe even remotely healthy.
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Plisar wrote:
BuddyRaton wrote: Just curious...but if you're scared and disgusted why do you keep watching multiple videos?
We're both academically curious, so we tend to research things that interest us. The strange psychology of that place is just interesting.

Moreover, the difference between a McDonalds, Red Robin, and that place, is the fact that at least at the first two, they do have menu items that are at least low in calories. They serve diet sodas and low calorie beverages. There isn't even a salad at the heart attack grill. If you get dragged their by a friend, there is nothing anyone could eat that you could construe even remotely healthy.
you still have a choice of not ot eat or not to go in with the friend

and any ways when was the last time you went out with friends that you had no idea where you were going

thats just like saying oh my friends made me go into the nudy bar its not my fault i went in
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There is another documentary out that challenges Spurlocks "Supersize Me".
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Fat_H ... height2096
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jmkjr72 wrote: you still have a choice of not ot eat or not to go in with the friend

and any ways when was the last time you went out with friends that you had no idea where you were going

thats just like saying oh my friends made me go into the nudy bar its not my fault i went in
That's not exactly what I'm saying. I understand there is choice involved in stepping in there.

And as to the not knowing where I'm going, it happens more often then you'd thing--especially when you're allergic to peanuts and end up some place that is laced with nuts everywhere.
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Supersize Me was pure propaganda, it didn't tell us anything that we didn't already know (if you stop exercising and eat 5000 calories a day, you will become unhealthy [even though three supersized combos at McDonald's won't get you to 5000]).
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jmkjr72 wrote:thats just like saying oh my friends made me go into the nudy bar its not my fault i went in

SHHHHHHHH....I use that excuse all the time!
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BuddyRaton wrote:
jmkjr72 wrote:thats just like saying oh my friends made me go into the nudy bar its not my fault i went in

SHHHHHHHH....I use that excuse all the time!
That's what I'm sayin :ninja:
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seprate bank acounts and hide the atm slips to cover it up
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jmkjr72 wrote:seprate bank acounts and hide the atm slips to cover it up
Is that for the Heart Attack Grill or the nudy bar...or dare I say...BOTH!
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nudy bar i no nothing about nudy bars :wink:

honestly its all her borthers fault he is the bad influfnace he too me to
(um well lets see what to put in here)

its for the bar nudy bar heart attack grill casino scooters and scooter parts and any other things you dont want the wife finding out about
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something about this isn't quite right. i mean, i get it, but its seems like the joke is supposed to be on us and to a large degree, fat people

but do we get it? i mean, how can someone in bad health and shape walk in there to be outfitted with a hospital gown (giant bib), watch videos of malignantly obese people woofing down food in huge quantities, and just make pigs of themselves with little or no shame....all the while being fed the message "you're going to die!!"

its like going to a bar where they promote liver disease and car wrecks. but somehow worse, as that would never happen, but this is reality

and the owner is like "its not like i am not telling them so. its ridiculous. but they just can't help themselves!"

and that one 600lb dude. "its not like i eat here everyday"

well good thing, i guess....
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JHScoot wrote:i mean, how can someone in bad health and shape walk in there to be outfitted with a hospital gown (giant bib), watch videos of malignantly obese people woofing down food in huge quantities, and just make pigs of themselves with little or no shame....all the while being fed the message "you're going to die!!"
Some – not all, mind you, just some – obese people got that way by being deliberately self-destructive, or become self-destructive once they get there. Some are committing suicide one meal at a time. Others may be in denial, doing it to show that they won't be killed by it.
its like going to a bar where they promote liver disease and car wrecks. but somehow worse, as that would never happen, but this is reality
Isn't that pretty much the theme of a lot of high-school/college-age binge drinking parties? OK, young people don't believe in liver disease, but I recall a death-defying attitude of "party till you puke" at many of them and boasts about the stupid things one did (or at least was told that one did) afterward. It's irrational.
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A general opinion, not directed at anyone in particular.....

I can't help but feel that we're (and I include myself here) getting to be quite a bit like ancient Rome in that more and more of our entertainment centers around the pain, suffering, shortcomings, and ridicule of others.

In reflecting upon my own hypocrisy (I'm a smoker, and it'll probably kill me years too early, so how can I laugh at someone who's eating themselves into an early grave), I think I'm gonna try a new tack when it comes to dealing with other people's foibles:

1) If I can help, I will.
2) If I can't help, I won't criticize.
3) I will not find pleasure in the shortcomings of others.

Once again, I'm not directing this to anyone on the forum. It's just that this thread got me to thinking.
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charlie55 wrote:Once again, I'm not directing this to anyone on the forum. It's just that this thread got me to thinking.
It got me thinking about nudy bars.
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You look at shows like The Biggest Loser and a part of the draw is the modern-day freak show. Sure, we're rooting for them to lose weight, but at the same time, we're driven to watch because these huge people are doing crazy things and that makes it "interesting." This is much of the draw of reality tv in general. It's nothing new, it's been around for thousands of years, we've just come up with new ways of promoting it.
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TVB wrote:The association between "things that are bad for you" and "things you enjoy" is so strong that ...
Further proof of a vengeful god. A benevolent god would have made chocolate cake healthy.
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charlie55 wrote:A general opinion, not directed at anyone in particular.....

I can't help but feel that we're (and I include myself here) getting to be quite a bit like ancient Rome in that more and more of our entertainment centers around the pain, suffering, shortcomings, and ridicule of others.

In reflecting upon my own hypocrisy (I'm a smoker, and it'll probably kill me years too early, so how can I laugh at someone who's eating themselves into an early grave), I think I'm gonna try a new tack when it comes to dealing with other people's foibles:

1) If I can help, I will.
2) If I can't help, I won't criticize.
3) I will not find pleasure in the shortcomings of others.

Once again, I'm not directing this to anyone on the forum. It's just that this thread got me to thinking.
i think you have gotten to thinking too much :P

i haven't read any posts judging these people or this restaurant, or laughing at them. its just shocking, sort of

you smoke? big deal. i think this has more to do with then just who is killing themselves, and how

its downright bizarre. even for ordinary sized people to indulge in. and it is something of a spectacle. i mean, its an orgy of gluttony!

"live at let live," sure. but its ok to have an opinion about something like this. its way out there imo

i think its cuckoo and indicative of something in our society. exactly what, i don't know.... :shock:
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i want some lard fried fries, btw

heck maybe it isn't so bad if you're gonna fry in lard?

i'm serious :nerd:
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JHScoot wrote:.....I haven't read any posts judging these people or this restaurant.....
And neither did I accuse anyone here of doing so.
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didn't one of the owners of this place die recently? R
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This is the best thing I got at Heart Attack Grill – it didn’t have lard on it
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I've been to HAG a couple of times and I have to say they have some of the best damn burgers of any burger joint I've been to. The fries are just so-so, though. I rarely eat too many of them.

The best part about this place are the 'nurses' and the decor. Go sometime and sit at the bar, you'll see what I mean. ;)

I live right up the street from the one in Chandler. Scooter meetup sometime? :D
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still shifting wrote:didn't one of the owners of this place die recently? R
No, it was their 29 year old 575 lb spokesman.

From what I've heard, one of the main reasons The Heart Attack Grill is so popular, besides the black humor of its approach, is that obese people are actually treated well there, even as they are being fed the same poison they can get at any other fast food place.

They are nice to fat people, which is something very rare these days.
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rajron wrote:This is the best thing I got at Heart Attack Grill –
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I believe that if Al Gore went on 60 Minutes tonight and said that drinking Drano was bad for you, we'd be missing about 40 million Americans by Wednesday.
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