Saga quest scooter

alexpark · Post by **alexpark** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:10 pm

Has anyone heard or had experience with Saga Quest scooters http://www.sagacanada.ca/quest-50cc-150 ... ter-sp.asp
Looking to purchase my 1st scooter. Looking at the 150cc model
I believe the scooter is made by Benzhou and imported to Canada by Saga

tortoise · Post by **tortoise** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:57 pm

alexpark wrote:Looking to purchase my 1st scooter.

If your criteria includes grocery getting . . a flat floorboard (no hump) is more useful for carrying milk and water jugs. China scooter engine longevity is often related to how hard you run it . . example.

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:59 pm

It's nice looking...

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:21 pm

I don't know where Benzhou falls in the list of Mainland factories, but a Benzhou built Schwinn 50 4T was my first ever scoot. It gave me no problems in 1700 miles in one year (just over half a decade ago).

neotrotsky · Post by **neotrotsky** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:48 pm

OK... without going into my no-name ChinaScoot rant:

If you can't find a real SERIES of brick and mortar dealers for the bike, odds are you probably don't want it (and it probably won't last)

az_slynch · Post by **az_slynch** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:16 pm

neotrotsky wrote:OK... without going into my no-name ChinaScoot rant:

If you can't find a real SERIES of brick and mortar dealers for the bike, odds are you probably don't want it (and it probably won't last)

And you'll just be another story in the SAGA of sketchy Chinese scooters.

Bad pun aside, I'm with Neo on this. Longevity and acceptable ROI are generally not strong suits of these bikes. Run like hell if it claims to have ABS brakes.

agrogod · Post by **agrogod** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:09 pm

neotrotsky wrote:OK... without going into my no-name ChinaScoot rant:

If you can't find a real SERIES of brick and mortar dealers for the bike, odds are you probably don't want it (and it probably won't last)

Move to Canada and you will find those dealers

ravenlore · Post by **ravenlore** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:29 pm

neotrotsky wrote:OK... without going into my no-name ChinaScoot rant:

If you can't find a real SERIES of brick and mortar dealers for the bike, odds are you probably don't want it (and it probably won't last)

I more or less agree with Neo on this fine point. Multiple brick-and-mortar dealers OR one established, known dealership with a (positive) reputation in the local scooter community. I really can't emphasize those qualifiers enough.

if you're buying a scooter of undetermined pedigree, you GOTTA have a good dealer/service support.

neotrotsky · Post by **neotrotsky** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:16 am

alexpark wrote:Has anyone heard or had experience with Saga Quest scooters http://www.sagacanada.ca/quest-50cc-150 ... ter-sp.asp
Looking to purchase my 1st scooter. Looking at the 150cc model
I believe the scooter is made by Benzhou and imported to Canada by Saga

OMG I just saw the pic finally

Holy craptastic-chromed-plastic-Vespa-GTS-knockoff Batman!!!!!

I'm sorry, but that just screams China container-ship scooter. I've seen tons of versions of copies of that thing around Phoenix. All usually on the side of the road, on Craigslist listed as a "project" or a "I'm sure it will run with some carb cleaner" or dumped in an alley.

You can do MUCH better.

still shifting · Post by **still shifting** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:03 am

I wonder if that brand or model will show up in the states? R

az_slynch · Post by **az_slynch** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:53 am

still shifting wrote:I wonder if that brand or model will show up in the states? R

I believe it's sold here as a "Volare". I've seen them around for a few years.

Robbie · Post by **Robbie** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:20 pm

Agree....sold in the U.S. as Volare......manufactured by TNG...the distributor is based in Washington state.

Although I rarely see TNG product I have heard they are a respectable product.
The assembly and component quality was good enouph to have me believe they were a product of Tiawan until I read the D.O.T. label indicating a Chinese product.

Rob

alexpark · Post by **alexpark** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:11 pm

Great feedback, appreciate the comments.
These scooters are sold at a so called brick-and-mortar dealers throughout Canada. In my province alone there are 11 dealers that sell and service these things.
http://www.sagacanada.ca/dealers2.asp?prov=alb
http://www.sagacanada.ca/ Please have a look and let me know what you think..
A new 150cc as shown in my original post is going for $2600 with a 1year parts only warranty, Available 2year warranty for an extra $300.
How much should one spend on their first scooter?

http://atvedmonton.com/images/SagaQuest ... fault.aspx
http://tuffcitypowersports.com/image-ga ... rs-4t.html

anthony · Post by **anthony** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:35 pm

alexpark wrote: A new 150cc as shown in my original post is going for $2600 with a 1year parts only warranty, Available 2year warranty for an extra $300.
How much should one spend on their first scooter?

For that price, I'd spend an extra $100 and get a buddy. or even save $300 and get a Sym Fiddle II. Both good quality, reliable scoots with classic styling and proven track records.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:01 pm

Don't forget the Canadian exchange rate.

two questions - 1. How big are those tires? 2. Please tell me that you will debagde the SAGA logo if you get her?

alexpark · Post by **alexpark** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:01 pm

One bad thing about the Italian and Japanese brands being manufactured in China, Vietnam, and Mexico is consumers begin to think that quality comes from the country of origin. It does not. An Aprillia may be manufactured in China, but it's still built to Aprillia's standards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYLMhbuuAo

neotrotsky · Post by **neotrotsky** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:05 pm

OK, I'm going to be the voice of not-so-much-reason and say my opinion outright. Take it as you will, and meant with respect to you the original poster:

DO NOT buy this China-clone scooter. It's a cheap ass copy of a Vespa GTS with nothing related to the GTS in the first place. The shop sells a ton of the usual suspects of China-clones and that's not a good sign. Even the shop I bought my Kymco from was getting rid of the Chinese scooters as fast as they could shove them and ripping down the signs in order to hang the new Kymco swag the moment they got their dealer's franchise.

Being associated with TNG is no great thing to brag about either. They are known in the US for selling some pretty crap-tastic Chinese clones themselves.

I know we're supposed to keep an "open mind", but let's be honest with ourselves without being politically correct: No-name Chinese container bikes are junk. This bike falls squarely into "No Name". Can you visit the Saga factory? No, because this is just another rebadged clone from another faceless factory in Mainland China who will probably be cranking out rice cookers or iPod copies in the next month after their contract with this build is done.

I only say this because for the price they are asking, you can get a Kymco CHEAPER, a Buddy for only a little more or buy a used QUALITY bike of any make and come out far ahead financially and on a much better built, better supported and SAFER bike.

Sym, Kymco, Genuine and the like have bikes that can compete to close to that price. I wouldn't trust that thing past 2k miles in my personal opinion.

The ONLY Chinese made bikes that have swayed me were the Vespa 150S and Kymco Agility... but they're made in factories OWNED by the companies and ONLY make scooters. They're hardly Chinese in management and application.

PS.

A GOOD and REPUTABLE company won't charge you for an "extra" warranty. Genuine, Kymco and SYM all come with 2 year unlimited mileage warranties without extra fees. Genuine even comes with roadside assistance!

anthony · Post by **anthony** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:50 pm

RoaringTodd wrote:Don't forget the Canadian exchange rate.

Not sure if this was directed to my comment, but $2600 Canadian currently equals $2640 US dollars. Not really a huge difference.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:01 pm

times have changed - I thought it was higher -

KABarash · Post by **KABarash** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:17 pm

alexpark wrote: How much should one spend on their first scooter?

Well I gotta admit, it ain't ugly!
How much do you want to spend on your first scoot? I paid $1600 for a two year old Honda Met 50cc for my son and $2000 for a year old Buddy as our first scoots.

BootScootin'FireFighter · Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:48 pm

they got Genuine topcases!

Post by **ericalm** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:30 pm

alexpark wrote:How much should one spend on their first scooter?

Not sure about going prices in Canada, but in the US, it's tough to find a good-quality 125/150cc scooter for under $2200 (new, full MSRP, which doesn't include taxes, registration and other fees), with the better models running higher. $2500+ is more likely.

cowboyjs · Post by **cowboyjs** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:48 pm

i love mine i had 2 so far and maybe going to git a new one soon as well so much power way better then most scooter out there faster and looks very beautiful i payed 2900 for mine 50 cc in brandon mantoba

Stitch · Post by **Stitch** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:13 pm

Ever get that "troll advertising" feeling?

LadyLuck13 · Post by **LadyLuck13** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:11 pm

I live in Calgary, my boyfriend and myself both own Saga Scooters. He owns the deluxe 50 model and I own the 50 quest model. For those of you who are bashing the Saga brand, I must say that I strongly disagree with what you're saying. Our bikes have been fantastic since the day we purchased them. We have gone on long bike trips with no problems whatsoever. The dealership we bought the bikes from carry all of the parts in the world we could ever need for them. I had dropped my bike and needed new side plastics. I ordered the plastic from the dealership and my order was on my doorstep within 3 days. Saga is a great brand, they never once have given me a reason to think otherwise. I love my Quest, and I'm sure you'd love it too!

Stitch · Post by **Stitch** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:51 pm

Oh look, another poster with less than 5 posts.
And they own 2 of them.

RoadRambler · Post by **RoadRambler** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:02 pm

And necroposting to boot, both of 'em.

But wait, suddenly I have an urge to check out a SagaScoot -- so their subtle tactics must work! Not.

Stitch · Post by **Stitch** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:16 pm

It's not as entertaining as the Dongfang scooter site.

brianwheelies · Post by **brianwheelies** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:42 pm

RoadRambler wrote:And necroposting to boot, both of 'em.

But wait, suddenly I have an urge to check out a SagaScoot -- so their subtle tactics must work! Not.

What is necroposting?

If I were on a computer I would copy their posts into a Google search.

Why would Alexpark come to the Genuine forum to post?

Stitch · Post by **Stitch** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:31 am

Identical post on a couple china scoot forums. Word for word.

Stitch · Post by **Stitch** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:18 am

Copy the post to search and see how many places they posted the exact same thing. The op is using this thread to promote a product, or create awareness for a product. In this case a knockoff chinascoot.

RoadRambler · Post by **RoadRambler** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:49 am

Brian, necroposting is reviving old threads back from the dead. I figured both ladyluck and cowboy were advertisers/trolls and looks like maybe the op was, too, based on what Stitch found.

And of course they may all be one and the same.

BuddyBliss · Post by **BuddyBliss** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:46 am

Stitch, LOL @ Dongfang scooter site, and interesting how you found those verbatim posts elsewhere.

Bootinscootin, I thought the same thing when I saw this, Hey those look just like the Genuine (easter egg flex to open) top cases!

craftynerd · Post by **craftynerd** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:24 pm

Oh man, I do love seeing what the cheaper Chinese scooter companies rip off from - in the large picture batch the OP posted, I saw what I'm guessing are a few faux Metropolitans, and then of course those Vespa ripoffs...

Plus, $2600 for a 150cc? I dunno... I know there are some Kymco scoots that sell in that range, but honestly, if you're looking for something in that price range, then get a brand name scooter, and not something that's got a giant logo plastered on the side and is ripped off another scooter's design....

(okay, rant done, I promise!)

Stitch · Post by **Stitch** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:24 pm

BuddyBliss wrote:Stitch, LOL @ Dongfang scooter site, and interesting how you found those verbatim posts elsewhere.

Bootinscootin, I thought the same thing when I saw this, Hey those look just like the Genuine (easter egg flex to open) top cases!

Dongfang is a real scooter company. If anyone knows a dealer selling them, I want a decal or badge.

As far as finding the other identical posts , I literally just copied the op's original post, and pasted it into the google search bar. No weird interwebs ninja skills.

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:44 pm

Beware!!! Trolls lurk there!!! Re 1 or 2 posts in a year or more?

Post by **ericalm** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:56 am

Locked!

Modern Buddy