Phil McCaleb stepping down.
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Wow what a big life change. I am really thankful for Phil's contributions! I had such a great time Sunday at Amerivespa on my Buddy. Even though my scootering needs have changes some (eww, ick, freeway)it just tapped into a special place in my heart riding my little guy around town.
To great things ahead Phil!
To great things ahead Phil!
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Wow. What a game changer. Well I wish nothing but positive things for everyone involved. Phil, I certainly hope to ride together again soon! Don't go changin! And don't be a stranger! Genuine peeps, I hope you will continue the Genuine legacy in the spirit in which it was created. The scooter community has so much love for your company and your products. And that's just the way we like it!
Onward and upward everyone!!! KSU!!
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Cant find much on line about Chicago Assoc. but Scooterworks Holdings,
LLC, licensed in Delaware has been licensed for 2 years and is headed up
by William Jackson. Philips replacement is Dorothy Hanley. Has she been
involved in the company before he stepped down? What direction will the
company proceed in under the new leadership. I hope upward.
LLC, licensed in Delaware has been licensed for 2 years and is headed up
by William Jackson. Philips replacement is Dorothy Hanley. Has she been
involved in the company before he stepped down? What direction will the
company proceed in under the new leadership. I hope upward.
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This decision was entirely Philip's. He's leaving a company that's in very good shape. After decades in a very difficult industry, Philip's got a lot of new things on the burners and will continue to see some projects through completion at Genuine.
As always, I'll warn people against rumor mongering and trying to read between the lines based on little info. I know it's the nature of the Internet to see black hats and conspiracies and evil lurking behind every corner. But idle speculation is just that.
Philip's decision is exactly what it seems to be. He was not pushed out. As for what it means for the future of Genuine, I can't say and neither can anyone else without a time machine. I'm sure we all hope for the best.
As for Dorothy Hanley, I've met her briefly a couple times. (Introduction, handshake, hellos.) I don't know much about her but she's been part of Genuine for the past couple years since they invested in the company.
As always, I'll warn people against rumor mongering and trying to read between the lines based on little info. I know it's the nature of the Internet to see black hats and conspiracies and evil lurking behind every corner. But idle speculation is just that.
Philip's decision is exactly what it seems to be. He was not pushed out. As for what it means for the future of Genuine, I can't say and neither can anyone else without a time machine. I'm sure we all hope for the best.
As for Dorothy Hanley, I've met her briefly a couple times. (Introduction, handshake, hellos.) I don't know much about her but she's been part of Genuine for the past couple years since they invested in the company.
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Eric and TVB put things into perspective. Very often when an announcement
of this magnitude concerning a change in management in a company will
try to put a good face on it while easing the exec out the door. Good to know
that in this case that it is not what it might seem. Philip built what might just
be the best scooter company in this country and deserves full credit for his
efforts.
of this magnitude concerning a change in management in a company will
try to put a good face on it while easing the exec out the door. Good to know
that in this case that it is not what it might seem. Philip built what might just
be the best scooter company in this country and deserves full credit for his
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Good Luck PhilPhil McCaleb
Good Luck Phil, I cant wait to see whats next from Genuine Scooters (Please come out with a new Special Edition Stella Scooter, Preferably a 150 2 T)
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The press release does not mention Scooterworks USA and Scooterworks Direct, will he still be involved in their day-to-day operations?
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Re: Good Luck PhilPhil McCaleb
They had a new Buddy 170 color scheme on display at Amerivespa that may be released in the future.Crazy88s wrote:Good Luck Phil, I cant wait to see whats next from Genuine Scooters (Please come out with a new Special Edition Stella Scooter, Preferably a 150 2 T)
I highly doubt they will import any more 2T Stellas. A 4T Special edition is much more likely than a 2T one.
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Or a 200 4T! (fingers crossed...tightly)JohnKiniston wrote:They had a new Buddy 170 color scheme on display at Amerivespa that may be released in the future.Crazy88s wrote:Good Luck Phil, I cant wait to see whats next from Genuine Scooters (Please come out with a new Special Edition Stella Scooter, Preferably a 150 2 T)
I highly doubt they will import any more 2T Stellas. A 4T Special edition is much more likely than a 2T one.
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Now that'd be fun to have. Maybe I can buy a 200 Engine on Ebay some day if not.Indy21 wrote:Or a 200 4T! (fingers crossed...tightly)JohnKiniston wrote:They had a new Buddy 170 color scheme on display at Amerivespa that may be released in the future.Crazy88s wrote:Good Luck Phil, I cant wait to see whats next from Genuine Scooters (Please come out with a new Special Edition Stella Scooter, Preferably a 150 2 T)
I highly doubt they will import any more 2T Stellas. A 4T Special edition is much more likely than a 2T one.
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Re: Good Luck PhilPhil McCaleb
Not. Gonna. Happen.Indy21 wrote:Or a 200 4T! (fingers crossed...tightly)JohnKiniston wrote:They had a new Buddy 170 color scheme on display at Amerivespa that may be released in the future.Crazy88s wrote:Good Luck Phil, I cant wait to see whats next from Genuine Scooters (Please come out with a new Special Edition Stella Scooter, Preferably a 150 2 T)
I highly doubt they will import any more 2T Stellas. A 4T Special edition is much more likely than a 2T one.
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Aw c'mon, don't kill the dream!ericalm wrote:Not. Gonna. Happen.Indy21 wrote:Or a 200 4T! (fingers crossed...tightly)JohnKiniston wrote: They had a new Buddy 170 color scheme on display at Amerivespa that may be released in the future.
I highly doubt they will import any more 2T Stellas. A 4T Special edition is much more likely than a 2T one.
Even you've said in the past that it wouldn't happen "anytime soon", dont the towel yet! =)
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I'd like to revise that to "not ever!"Indy21 wrote:Aw c'mon, don't kill the dream!
Even you've said in the past that it wouldn't happen "anytime soon", dont the towel yet! =)
BUT, amongst all of this are indications of at least a couple new models coming down the pipeline from Genuine. We already know the automatic Stella is a "when, not if" deal. Next would be… not the 280cc…
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Damn!ericalm wrote:I'd like to revise that to "not ever!"Indy21 wrote:Aw c'mon, don't kill the dream!
Even you've said in the past that it wouldn't happen "anytime soon", dont the towel yet! =)
BUT, amongst all of this are indications of at least a couple new models coming down the pipeline from Genuine. We already know the automatic Stella is a "when, not if" deal. Next would be… not the 280cc…
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I have the CARB Executive Orders page bookmarked, and check every couple weeks just to see that engine listed. PleasePleasePleasepleaseplease don't ruin it for me :whine:Syd wrote:Damn!ericalm wrote:I'd like to revise that to "not ever!"Indy21 wrote:Aw c'mon, don't kill the dream!
Even you've said in the past that it wouldn't happen "anytime soon", dont the towel yet! =)
BUT, amongst all of this are indications of at least a couple new models coming down the pipeline from Genuine. We already know the automatic Stella is a "when, not if" deal. Next would be… not the 280cc…
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Share this link please and I'll check for you every week in between, haha!Syd wrote:I have the CARB Executive Orders page bookmarked, and check every couple weeks just to see that engine listed. PleasePleasePleasepleaseplease don't ruin it for me :whine:Syd wrote:Damn!ericalm wrote: I'd like to revise that to "not ever!"
BUT, amongst all of this are indications of at least a couple new models coming down the pipeline from Genuine. We already know the automatic Stella is a "when, not if" deal. Next would be… not the 280cc…
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What I check is http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/cert.php#6. The column to read is ONMC (ON-oad MotorCycle).Indy21 wrote:Share this link please and I'll check for you every week in between, haha!Syd wrote:I have the CARB Executive Orders page bookmarked, and check every couple weeks just to see that engine listed. PleasePleasePleasepleaseplease don't ruin it for me :whine:Syd wrote: Damn!
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Great! Thanks!Syd wrote:What I check is http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/cert.php#6. The column to read is ONMC (ON-oad MotorCycle).Indy21 wrote:Share this link please and I'll check for you every week in between, haha!Syd wrote: I have the CARB Executive Orders page bookmarked, and check every couple weeks just to see that engine listed. PleasePleasePleasepleaseplease don't ruin it for me :whine:
So I take it since this is a California site that in order for a new bike to come stateside period it has to make this list?
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Sort of. Some companies have offered bikes as "49 state" bikes. The original Stella 2T and millennium Vespa PXs were never sold in CA. Currently there are a few, such as the Suzuki TU250. And some companies import into the other states before CA. It took us years to get the SYMba when it was available elsewhere due to some bureaucratic hooey.Indy21 wrote:So I take it since this is a California site that in order for a new bike to come stateside period it has to make this list?
Genuine is pretty much bring everything over for all 50 states these days, though. So anything new would have to clear the list.
A couple caveats: CARB certifies engine systems, not specific models. So when the Buddy 150 was first certified, a whole bunch of other PGO 150s with the same innards were cleared, though Genuine had no plans to bring them over. And there's sometimes a delay between clearance for sales and posting of the order online. The Piaggio BV350 was already on showroom floors in CA before the CARB papers were available on the site.
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I'm disappointed that we won't get a 200 Stella but hope to see the new automatic. I've looked at a lot of scooters over the years and most are pretty cool but plastic doesn't age well and metal can always be repainted.
Coming from a motorcycle background, I find shifting to be a pleasure rather than a barrier but I have read so much about cables and the problems they cause that it would be simpler to do without them.
Congratulations to Mr. McCaleb and best wishes for the future. Genuine does seem like a spunky and committed outfit. I hope it remains so. And I hope the perceived growth in scootering I see hereabouts will result in growth in the near future for Genuine.
Coming from a motorcycle background, I find shifting to be a pleasure rather than a barrier but I have read so much about cables and the problems they cause that it would be simpler to do without them.
Congratulations to Mr. McCaleb and best wishes for the future. Genuine does seem like a spunky and committed outfit. I hope it remains so. And I hope the perceived growth in scootering I see hereabouts will result in growth in the near future for Genuine.
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An automatic Stella? Death of the last real scooter. Better buy a 4T or scramble to find a decent 2T one now this summer I suppose :\
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For many, an auto Stella is the birth of the scooter they've always wanted.neotrotsky wrote:An automatic Stella? Death of the last real scooter. Better buy a 4T or scramble to find a decent 2T one now this summer I suppose :\
It's not replacing the shifty. Both will be available.
After that, I imagine a lot depends on whether people continue buying the shifty Stella. Those concerned about its future should buy a few and convince everyone they know to do so as well!
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Exactly. My wife absolutely loves the Stella vintage styling, but absolutely refused to consider a shifty.ericalm wrote: For many, an auto Stella is the birth of the scooter they've always wanted.
Her dream bike would be an auto Stella w/ a sidecar for the pooches.
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Sorry, don't take this the wrong way as I'm new here but, how do you know so much? Are you Phil's brother or something? LoLericalm wrote:It's not replacing the shifty. Both will be avaiable.
I mean if you know all the models coming and not coming as fact then that's awesome and I'll keep a close eye on your postings for any future information, sounds like you have a "special inside connection" that some of us don't know about. If so then I'll listen to all you have to offer, just don't leave us hangin man!
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So, uh what about the cruiser? sorry it is the law that if this subject is not addressed within 48 hours of the inception of a thread it is my duty to bring this matter to the table Ive been filling the void in the scooter chambers of my heart and garage with well qualified scoots such as Vespa and Helix....but..still cruiser curious.
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Besides being the site administrator Eric is the go-to guy for info of this sort.
It is what he does and he has reliable connections. I have found him to be
generally spot on with what he posts
If the Stella is coming in as an automatic I would buy another one somehow.
Maybe put my Cozy side car on it. If I remember correctly Eric once said that
the Stella 125 that was shipped to Europe was the same as the 150 shipped here, just a matter of semantics.
It is what he does and he has reliable connections. I have found him to be
generally spot on with what he posts
If the Stella is coming in as an automatic I would buy another one somehow.
Maybe put my Cozy side car on it. If I remember correctly Eric once said that
the Stella 125 that was shipped to Europe was the same as the 150 shipped here, just a matter of semantics.
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Valid question! I am not Phil's brother, but I do have a relationship with him and others from Genuine. Unlike other scooter company honchos, the Genuine guys go out and meet owners, talk to them and, like me, attend a lot of events. Philip and the others at Genuine are really friendly, interesting guys, so over the years, we've developed relationships. This doesn't mean they feed me tons of information about everything. They are, in fact, very careful in what they tell me.Indy21 wrote:Sorry, don't take this the wrong way as I'm new here but, how do you know so much? Are you Phil's brother or something? LoLericalm wrote:It's not replacing the shifty. Both will be avaiable.
I mean if you know all the models coming and not coming as fact then that's awesome and I'll keep a close eye on your postings for any future information, sounds like you have a "special inside connection" that some of us don't know about. If so then I'll listen to all you have to offer, just don't leave us hangin man!
They are also very aware of the MB community and read almost all the posts here, but have had the foresight not to ever interfere in the forum. They never post here, with the exception of Philip's annual holiday/New Year missive, a tradition I hope he maintains for years to come.
Generally speaking, I share any reliable info I get. On rare occasions, I sit on info for a time until it's verified. I'm not a fan of idle speculation and wild guessing and don't like to start rumors. Anything I post that's not substantiated or from a reliable source is posted as "rumor."
There will be auto and shifty Stellas sold at the same time, but I honestly don't know how much life the shifty has left. The demand hasn't been overwhelming. Turns out, many buyers in India and Asia don't give a rat's ass what people in the relatively tiny by comparison US market consider a "real" scooter.
The licensing requirements in many countries are tiered based on displacement, which is why many 150s sold in North America are 125s elsewhere.Wolfhound wrote:If I remember correctly Eric once said that
the Stella 125 that was shipped to Europe was the same as the 150 shipped here, just a matter of semantics.
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