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2008 Buddy aka BuBu

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:45 am
by pcbikedude
I re-visited PGO's (Taiwan) website and noticed that it has changed. http://english.pgo.com.tw/product_character.asp?id=28 The new models were there.

No real big change for the BuBu...er Buddy. The seat looks different and the colors are interesting. But the BuBu badging is weird. My BuBu???!!!

Some other of the models have changed. Nothing spectacular just interesting.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:48 am
by weaseltamer
that badge / sticker doesnt look like it was on the scoot. it looks like someone just paint-pasted the graphic on... the lighting is all screwy.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:52 am
by pcbikedude
It looks like something like My Little Pony.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:02 am
by ericalm
Yeah, the cutesy My BuBu stuff is how they've always badged & marketed the scoot in Taiwan, only it's now become even bigger and more obnoxious.

Seen the old commercial?

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:30 am
by Buddy_wannabe
the BuBu name could be bad for a female to show off the scoot ... "Do you want to see my BuBu?" :oops:

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:30 pm
by robtaylor
i just want the seat

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:46 pm
by rickyd410
So I guess the entire Buddy family didn't receive the bigger headlight?

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:56 pm
by pcbikedude
rickyd410 wrote:So I guess the entire Buddy family didn't receive the bigger headlight?


It would appear not.

Now the badging on the pink BuBu is just over-the-top.

I can't take this anymore! I own a 14 year-old-chick's bike :cry: . If I can't get that image of that dumb video out of my head, Eric, I may have to give my scooter to my daughter!

What planet do they come from?

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:07 pm
by madmikal
It is comforting to know that our scoots are "clean for the erarth."
I wonder how much shipping we pay to get our scoots to earth from Erarth?

The Erarthians sure do have bad taste in graphics don't you think?

Cheers

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:06 pm
by redcass
robonz23 wrote:i just want the seat
I agree, it looks more comfortable than what we have now.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:22 pm
by pcbikedude
How about the BuBu color of SIVER? What's that???

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:38 pm
by EBee
did you notice they listed 50, 100, 125 cc? :shock:

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:45 pm
by weaseltamer
EBee wrote:did you notice they listed 50, 100, 125 cc? :shock:
i'm not surprised on the specs near the end of our *glorious* manual it lists all 3 sizes.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:48 pm
by ericalm
redcass wrote:
robonz23 wrote:i just want the seat
I agree, it looks more comfortable than what we have now.
Apparently, this seat is available on the Asian models because it reduces the height by a couple inches. Wouldn't take too much to reshape a Buddy seat to resemble that (plus a new seat is only $79) but it'd be nice if they offered it here as an option or sold it separately.

And the grey/black 2-tone seat, too, please!

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:23 pm
by pcbikedude
Was the G-Max always 200cc's or this a new engine?

Front slider/axle

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:45 pm
by mattgordon
Interesting that the Taiwan (home) market BuBu shown shows the front axle BEHIND or trailing the fork slider, while the USA market Buddy's have a LEADING axle design where the axle is in front of the slider.

My Rattler Buck Ten has the trailing axle like the BuBu. My wife's SI has the leading axle.

Wonder why the differences? It affects the wheelbase, by a bit. Maybe an inch, inch and a half.

The USA models would essentially have a bit longer wheelbase, making for less "twitchy" or slower steering perhaps?

I'm just being curious out loud...

Re: Front slider/axle

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:53 pm
by ericalm
mattgordon wrote:Wonder why the differences? It affects the wheelbase, by a bit. Maybe an inch, inch and a half.
Uh... Maybe some kind of DOT requirement for vehicles 125cc and up? Wild guess.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:03 pm
by pcbikedude
I curious about the new Kymco (Taiwan) models. Gone are the People 150 & 250's. The are replaced by the S models which are UGLY.

The Grand Vista (Dink), which my daughter says looks like a snowmobile, now is available in 125cc. Who knows what Kymco USA will decide to bring in.

http://www.kymco.com/showroom/showroom_index.asp

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:29 pm
by ericalm
pcbikedude wrote:I curious about the new Kymco (Taiwan) models. Gone are the People 150 & 250's. The are replaced by the S models which are UGLY.

The Grand Vista (Dink), which my daughter says looks like a snowmobile, now is available in 125cc. Who knows what Kymco USA will decide to bring in.

http://www.kymco.com/showroom/showroom_index.asp
The People S models are already on the KymcoUSA site, but the old models are still there, too. I'm not a big fan of those new headlights.

Even if they get rid of the old models, the Kymco product line seems a bit... redundant. And possibly confusing for people just entering the scooter market.

Wonder if these are made on mainland China, like the less-than-impressive Agility?

If Genuine were to offer a good (and good-looking) 200/250, Kymco might be in a lot of trouble.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:08 pm
by Tazio
The picture above also appears to have the 12" wheels. Will this be one of the new features for 2008?

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:17 pm
by pcbikedude
Tazio wrote:The picture above also appears to have the 12" wheels. Will this be one of the new features for 2008?
The tire size is still 10" according to the specs.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:45 pm
by poop colored buddy
the whole "Bu-Bu" thing confuses me. why do they come off looking cheaper? are they pieces of isht?? whats the relationship to genuine? I know a lot of you prob already know these things but i don't , any info would be helpful!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:13 pm
by aruntoo
Tazio wrote:The picture above also appears to have the 12" wheels. Will this be one of the new features for 2008?
the wheels look big because the version which is pictured the 50cc version which has a smaller brake rotor and caliper

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:15 pm
by aruntoo
poop colored buddy wrote:the whole "Bu-Bu" thing confuses me. why do they come off looking cheaper? are they pieces of isht?? whats the relationship to genuine? I know a lot of you prob already know these things but i don't , any info would be helpful!
the Bubu and Buddy are the same scooter

PGO makes both scooters.

Genuine rebadges them and sells them here in the US.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:03 am
by peabody99
there are possibly some other subtle differences. I rented a bubu in Hawaii last winter and it seemed to have some even cheaper looking accents. It was a 50cc, totally abused, probably dropped dozens of times,but it was a lil champ.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:36 am
by Keys
I still want a Black Cat with the Buddy drive-train.

--Keys 8)

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:41 am
by ysofisonly50?
[/quote] the Bubu and Buddy are the same scooter
PGO makes both scooters.
Genuine rebadges them and sells them here in the US.[/quote]

. . . . Amen . . . .

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:03 am
by 5 bud7
May have stumbled onto something on this site. The t-rex 150 is 7.7 kw @7500. the buddy 125 is t7.1 kw @7250. PGO can't have too many engines so this could be the buddy continental series engine. Can anyone convert the metric numbers to hp . 5 bud 7

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:23 am
by coopdway
My conversion based on those values = 10.3hp and 9.5hp

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:55 am
by 5 bud7
thanks coopdway for the info. 25 extra c.c.'s will make a difference worth waiting for in the international series.