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Who has rented a UHaul utility trailer to haul a scoot?

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I've got a receiver hitch on my Honda CRV.

Thinking about using a UHaul utility trailer to haul it home when it's ready.

Experiences good or bad using one of these?

Other choices are cargo van or smallest truck. Price and mileage costs go up with those.
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Whimscootie wrote:I've got a receiver hitch on my Honda CRV.

Thinking about using a UHaul utility trailer to haul it home when it's ready.

Experiences good or bad using one of these?

Other choices are cargo van or smallest truck. Price and mileage costs go up with those.
Never rented one myself, but my Helix was delivered about 150 miles in one with no problems. It was one of those with a drop gate and railing all around. Plenty of spots for tie-downs.

Tip for ya: after you have the scoot all tied down snug, take a pair of zip ties and apply one to each brake handle such that the brakes are applied. This will prevent the scoot from creeping forward or backward if any slack develops in the tie-downs.
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Whimscootie wrote:I've got a receiver hitch on my Honda CRV.

Thinking about using a UHaul utility trailer to haul it home when it's ready.

Experiences good or bad using one of these?
My experience ended with me stranded by the side of a lonely road with a flat tire on the U-Haul trailer on 4th of July weekend, so... yeah. Seriously, here's what I learned. U-Haul actually rents a special "motorcycle" trailer for this purpose. The particular one I rented had been way overloaded by previous renters and, as a result, the tires had rubbed themselves bald against the fenders on the inner edge, so the tire looked fine on the outer edge but was completely worn bare from the middle to the inner edge. This was very easy to overlook because of the way the fender sits over the tire. In order to actually see the inner tire tread, it was necessary to crawl under the trailer with a flashlight, which I did not do, to my lasting regret. And yeah, a couple hundred miles later, there I was by the side of the road, in the middle of nowhere, on 4th of July weekend, and so on...

P.S. The contents of the conversation between my (intensely angry) wife and the U-Haul folks on the phone the third (or fourth) time we called remains a closely guarded family secret but they did finally send somebody to change the tire. :wink:
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But all of this doesn't say don't rent a U-Haul trailer! just do what you can to make sure the trailer is in good working order.






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Whimscootie wrote:I've got a receiver hitch on my Honda CRV.

Thinking about using a UHaul utility trailer to haul it home when it's ready.

Experiences good or bad using one of these?

Other choices are cargo van or smallest truck. Price and mileage costs go up with those.
I've rented one several times with no problems. Just make sure you get the one designed for motorcycles. It has tie down hooks on the bottom 4 corners, a slot in the front which keeps your scooter's front tire from swiveling back and forth on the trailer floor and the tail gate is taller than the rest of the trailer so it doubles as a loading ramp. I use 2 tie-down straps at the front secured around the handlebars and 1 at the rear looped through the rear wheel. Haven't lost a scooter yet!

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I use my CRV to pull my 6x8 trailer with a drop gate to transport my scoots to Bryson City NC for rides, to my dealer for repairs, stuff like that. All the advise about securing the scoot is excellent. Once secured and the brake controls tied down it will be secure. Your gas milage in the CRV will drop to about 19mpg. :wink:
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As long as there are adequate tie down points, it should be fine. You can get pretty much any tie downs at Harbor Freight or Home Depot and just make sure there is enough angle to them from the bars to the tie down points (in other words you don't really want to come straight down from the bars) so that the headset can't swivel. If you can tie down from the back as well that's great but two ties from the bars should work.

I've had trouble with motorcycle trailers/carriers as well. I bought one from HF - the kind that connects directly to the receiver hitch and holds a bike long ways across the back of the vehicle. The problem is that most of the little slots for the tires of the bike are made for tires much larger than 10" and so they don't sit properly. Almost lost my Buddy off the back.
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How far is it? Have someone drop you off and ride it home. Check the tire pressure, oil level and brakes.
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Also use a tie down around the front tire rim and the front bar of the trailer.
Zip tie or bungee the hand brake which locks the brakes, do all of the above mentioned securing methods and that scoot is good to go!!! :wink:
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DaBinChe wrote:How far is it? Have someone drop you off and ride it home. Check the tire pressure, oil level and brakes.
I am considering this. It is over 120 miles on isolated rural back roads with sketchy to no cell phone service in some areas.
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Whimscootie wrote:I am considering this. It is over 120 miles on isolated rural back roads with sketchy to no cell phone service in some areas.
Perfect. :)
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Whimscootie wrote:
DaBinChe wrote:How far is it? Have someone drop you off and ride it home. Check the tire pressure, oil level and brakes.
I am considering this. It is over 120 miles on isolated rural back roads with sketchy to no cell phone service in some areas.
You should be able to do that in about 3-4 hours on one tank of gas
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TVB wrote:
Whimscootie wrote:I am considering this. It is over 120 miles on isolated rural back roads with sketchy to no cell phone service in some areas.
Perfect. :)
I would not hesitate to do it myself. In fact, I wanted to do that originally for the adventure of it all.

When I and my partner went to look at the scooter we started to drive home that route. It is very convoluted with no direct, on-going roads from point A to point B.

We got so lost, even using GPS, that we finally got back on the interstate and returned home that way. And I HATE the interstate in the car and the scoot could not use it anyway.

There are 4 local bridges over the river from Kentucky into Ohio from where the seller lives. They are all interstate highway.

To get to one that isn't interstate involves the 70 mile drive, a crossover, then a 50 mile drive to home on rural back roads that are my passion.

It could be done, no doubt, but it might be more aggravation than adventure and fun.

I haven't totally discounted it as an option, however. It really appeals to me.

Heck, I rode my first Ruckus home over 50 miles and over the Mighty Ohio River bridge (non-interstate) and it was a blast! And in the rain too.
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I've decided to rent a cargo van from UHaul to pick up the scooter.

It's cheap and my scooter will be protected from the elements and the heavy traffic that I will be traveling in over in the urban sprawl.

The back road trip sounded good, but involves other people who are not that available, or capable, of accompanying me on something like that.

Not sure when I will get it. Seller is still working on getting the battery charged up or replaced between working shift work.

I am trying to be patient because I really want this scoot!
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Smart move!!
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Whimscootie wrote:I've decided to rent a cargo van from UHaul to pick up the scooter.
I've done that, too, and I found a bag of 4 of soft-ties to be an enormous help. The cargo van didn't have a great way to attach the large hook that my tie downs have, so we used the soft ties everywhere and then attached the hooks to the soft-ties. It worked great. Good luck!
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charlie55 wrote:Tip for ya: after you have the scoot all tied down snug, take a pair of zip ties and apply one to each brake handle such that the brakes are applied. This will prevent the scoot from creeping forward or backward if any slack develops in the tie-downs.
Great suggestion ... thanks. I used small bungee cords wrapped around both brake levers to achieve the same effect during my 200 mile tow this morning. The scooter felt just a little more stable than without.
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I use bungee cords too, cheaper than plastic ties but works too. Without bungee cords and duct tape the world would be in serious trouble. :wink:
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jrsjr wrote:
Whimscootie wrote:I've decided to rent a cargo van from UHaul to pick up the scooter.
I've done that, too, and I found a bag of 4 of soft-ties to be an enormous help. The cargo van didn't have a great way to attach the large hook that my tie downs have, so we used the soft ties everywhere and then attached the hooks to the soft-ties. It worked great. Good luck!
Thanks for that tip! I will definitely look for those!
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Wolfhound wrote:I use bungee cords too, cheaper than plastic ties but works too. Without bungee cords and duct tape the world would be in serious trouble. :wink:
Yeah, and don't forget to add cable ties to that mix!

I love the new colors and patterns in duct tape too! :D
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So it's looking like I will need:

4 soft ties
4 straps with hooks
roll of duct tape
package of long, thick cable ties

cargo van
scoot

anything else?


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Wolfhound wrote:I use bungee cords too, cheaper than plastic ties but works too.....
Not if you're on good terms with the installation techs at work. :wink:
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Starting to worry...

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Starting to worry now because it has been a week and a half and the seller seems no closer to getting the scoot's battery either charged or replaced.

I texted last night that I would take it "as is" at a reduced cost and get the repairs done myself, but no response.

No response!

What to think? I am starting to feel jerked around, aggravated, etc.

What is so damn difficult about putting a scooter on a battery tender or at least responding to my offer with something like, "No, we'll get it running" or "That offer sounds reasonable. When do you want to pick it up?"

Anything.

I am beginning to believe that I may not be getting this scooter and I really, really want this particular one!

Am I being too impatient? Unreasonable? What?

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No, you are being sensible. Give it a day or two for him to answer and then
look somewhere else. I don't believe that you put any money up to hold it.
If not then all you are out is your time and the aggravation.
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It's normal and human to feel impatient. Some things in life just can't get here fast enough, like holiday morning when you're a kid. I drive myself crazy 'tracking' a package when I've ordered something online.

If you end up with the scoot, the memory of it taking too long will soon be forgotten. If this one isn't to be, there are plenty of fish in the sea.

I know I came off like a jerk in the other thread on the subject of getting the deal done, but my silly personal rule set is a direct result of being a person who has a lot of sympathy for where you are at with this and comes up with personal rules to keep from ending up there. Again.

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pattio wrote:It's normal and human to feel impatient. Some things in life just can't get here fast enough, like holiday morning when you're a kid. I drive myself crazy 'tracking' a package when I've ordered something online.

If you end up with the scoot, the memory of it taking too long will soon be forgotten. If this one isn't to be, there are plenty of fish in the sea.

I know I came off like a jerk in the other thread on the subject of getting the deal done, but my silly personal rule set is a direct result of being a person who has a lot of sympathy for where you are at with this and comes up with personal rules to keep from ending up there. Again.

Best of luck.
Well, thanks for that. I just went through the process of selling my Buddy to a person out of state and gosh darn I was absolutely the most "customer service friendly" seller on the planet!

Most people on CL fall short of this. They won't return calls, ignore texts, fail to show up to look at an item or buy it, etc.

I guess it's par for the course.

Like a family member said, "If they didn't take care of the scooter for 4 years why would they rush to do it now."

Good point, well taken, as were yours.

I am actually NOT expecting anymore contact from this seller and so I say, "Que Sera"...

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It is a shame. Having been business on my own I know that the only way to sell or serve successfully is to take care of the client!
Sorry that this one fell thru but there will be another deal coming that will
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If I don't hear anything by Friday I am moving on...
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Whimscootie wrote:If I don't hear anything by Friday I am moving on...
It's God's way of telling you to buy a Helix. :lol:
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"What a revoltin' development this is!"

I hope you get something sorted out.....
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KABarash wrote:"What a revoltin' development this is!"

I hope you get something sorted out.....
I've actually been thinking it may be for the best.
Thinking about a used Met to go with my Yammie.
Miss mine so much!
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2002 scoot with only 280 miles? That could spell trouble if the seller has not
gone over it carefully, made sure it runs, carb is ok, tires have not dry rotted, things like that. This scoot has basically been stored for 12 years. :(
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Dage'sVew wrote:Here ya go: <a "href=http://tuscarawas.craigslist.org/mcy/46 ... l">[b]2002 Met[/b]</a>

Hmmm, didn't link. Try this: http://tuscarawas.craigslist.org/mcy/4609204451.html
Way too far away from me, but pretty nice! :D
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Wolfhound wrote:2002 scoot with only 280 miles? That could spell trouble if the seller has not
gone over it carefully, made sure it runs, carb is ok, tires have not dry rotted, things like that. This scoot has basically been stored for 12 years. :(
Yeah, I'd be concerned somewhat. If it starts right up and runs good, ok. Tires can be replaced at pretty low cost. Looks good tho, doesn't it?
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I rented a trailer from uhaul out of Boston. With no insurance it was 15 a day and came out to something like 47.00 from a Friday pick up to a Monday drop off. Not too shabby for a whole weekend plus some.

You do need a Hitch and to install the connecting wires to the lights. I learned that the hard way when I showed up with just the hitch. They charged me 139 for the cables and labor. I would have turned around and went home to do it myself but my weekend was riding on leaving on time and I needed it done ASAP. Other than that- good experience. Quick and easy and cheap!

The trailer also held two scoots, fy.
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Well, good news! (I hope). The seller has the scooter ready, or so he says. Says it's charged. My concern is "will it HOLD that charge?"

Nevertheless, I am going after it!

I am renting a UHaul cargo van and going and getting it on Friday. We don't have a ramp so I am hoping to get a board of some type from Lowes and take along.

There is a Honda dealer not far from there and if I have to I will drive it there and see if they can help us get it ON the truck bed.

On this side there is a Harley dealer near where I live and maybe they can help us get it OUT of the truck bed!

I don't know. Somehow we will get it here....
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Whimscootie wrote: good news.
I am going after it!.
WooHoo....!
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Whimscootie wrote:I am renting a UHaul pick-up and going and getting it on Friday. We don't have a ramp so I am hoping to get a board of some type from Lowes and take along.
Yep, been there, done that, too. Back the truck (carefully!) into a shallow ditch, then the ramp doesn't have to lift the bike as far or drop it as far at when unloading.

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jrsjr wrote:
Whimscootie wrote:I am renting a UHaul pick-up and going and getting it on Friday. We don't have a ramp so I am hoping to get a board of some type from Lowes and take along.
Yep, been there, done that, too. Back the truck (carefully!) into a shallow ditch, then the ramp doesn't have to lift the bike as far or drop it as far at when unloading.

Good Luck!
Yeah, have done that also by backing up to a hillside or rise in the pavement.

I just switched to a cargo van...thinking it might be easier to load and secure the scooter inside.

Hard to say which has the advantage, it or the pick-up with regard for ground to deck as they don't show those dimensions for those two.

I just feel like the cargo van is more manageable. I will take off the mirrors and strap it to the side I guess.

Getting sort of excited, but very nervous about this transport stuff...

Hey, positive thought: I might be riding that scoot this weekend!

:D

Oh, another QUESTION: would you strap it in place on it's tires or on it's center stand?
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Unless you are strapping the scoot to the side of the cargo van, put it on the tires. Do not tie down the scoot on the center stand. It's hard to compress the front suspension with the scoot on the center stand. It's the compression that keeps the scoot tight and stable.
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Syd wrote:Unless you are strapping the scoot to the side of the cargo van, put it on the tires. Do not tie down the scoot on the center stand. It's hard to compress the front suspension with the scoot on the center stand. It's the compression that keeps the scoot tight and stable.
Thanks for that tip! Can you tell I've never done this? LOL

Always rode them home or had shop deliver them.

I am going over this morning to look at the van vs the pick-up.

Supposed to be beautiful weather all weekend, including tomorrow!

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Good luck and keep us posted. :clap: :clap:
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Yeah, well it all seems to have worked itself out.

I went over to the UHaul this morning bright and early and these vans, trucks, and so forth are pretty darn tall! No ramps to rent, just more money to get a truck with a ramp, ridiculous!

So, on a whim, (no pun intended) I called the local Honda Powersports store which is a stone's throw from the buyer's house and asked if they would deliver it over to my side of the river if I rode it down to their location.

Bingo! Yep! No problem! They will deliver it to my door for a mere $70.

And while I'm down at the Honda shop, I am going to have them look at that battery.

I'm feeling no confidence in a 4 year old battery in a scoot with only 1K miles that has been sitting for all this time. So I may just buy a new one while I'm there.

Now I am getting excited about tomorrow!

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Great news. :lol:
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