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In Cold - Starts then dies

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:17 am
by caseynshan
2009 Buddy 50 about 3000 miles. well maintained newer battery.

This morning outside temp 32 - Garage Temp 42
This is how it normally goes around this temp.. worse when colder, better when warm. no issues over 50
Start it once w/ button, starts, dies after 2 secs.
Start it w/ kick, starts, dies after 3 secs.
Start it w/ kick, starts, dies after 60 secs. (have to keep revving to keep from dying)
Start it w/ kick, starts, dies after 60 secs. (have to keep revving)
Start it w/ kick, ride slowly up the alley, bogs and dies after 10 seconds
Start it once w/ button, starts, runs for 1 min then bogs and dies at stop sign
ride around neighborhood for 5 mins before main street to make sure it doesn't bog and die at stop light. Probably total of at least 10-12 starts.
then have to keep it somewhat revved for next 5 minutes after that at lights so it doesn't die.

Ideas...
  • Use mid level gasoline - already doing
    Use sea foam engine treatment - already doing
    Use space heater in garage (kind of a pain based on my garage layout)
    Use premium gas?
    Trickle charger wouldn't help... right? it's not about it starting, it's about keeping it running?
    Have idle adjusted higher?
    Other Ideas?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:47 am
by RoaringTodd
I'd try the idle adjustment a little higher. Wouldn't hurt, and its easy to reach.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:47 am
by RoaringTodd
I'd try the idle adjustment a little higher. Wouldn't hurt, and its easy to reach.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:05 pm
by Stanza
Any time you have trouble specifically on cold weather starts, it's likely the auto-choke. They aren't the cheapest part in the world, but still not too bad. Any chance there'a s shop nearby that could test yours for failure? Or are you feeling confident in your screwdriver abilities?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:24 pm
by Dooglas
Stanza wrote:Any time you have trouble specifically on cold weather starts, it's likely the auto-choke.
^ ^ ^ +1 ^ ^ ^

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:53 pm
by skipper20
Stanza wrote:Any time you have trouble specifically on cold weather starts, it's likely the auto-choke. They aren't the cheapest part in the world, but still not too bad. Any chance there'a s shop nearby that could test yours for failure? Or are you feeling confident in your screwdriver abilities?
I'll second the above. Have your auto choke (by-starter) checked out by a competent scooter repair shop.

Bill in Seattle
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