Modern Buddy

I got an email today from Genuine Motors informing me that they have now put out their own brand of Genuine motor oils for Genuine scooters and motorcycles. The oil products are made in the USA and are available at Genuine dealers. They have 15W-40 Full Synthetic, 85W140 Gear Oil, a Synthetic 2 Stroke, and
10W40MA-2 for wet clutch motorcycle G400c. I don't know the prices but I think this may ease the worry of a lot of new owners about which oils to use.

Good idea on Genuine's part.

How do you get on Genuine's mailing list? I'm feeling left out.

Tenders. Am not positive how I got on the list, but am thinking it's because I once emailed them questions about CVT size.

Makes me wonder whose oil they are re-badging.

Gives me a good excuse to stop by my local Genuine dealer.

What with all the counterfeit stuff coming from China, how do you know if your Genuine oil is genuine? Because it says so on the bottle?

Anything is possible. The Chinese could be selling counterfeit Starbucks coffee. It wouldn't be very profitable, since they dont produce oil or coffee.

wheelbender6 wrote:Anything is possible. The Chinese could be selling counterfeit Starbucks coffee. It wouldn't be very profitable, since they dont produce oil or coffee.

Actually, China does produce coffee. It is grown in Hunan Province in the South of the Country.

I will have to try some of that Hunan coffee. China town is only 5 miles or so from where I live during the work week.

I trust Genuine.

Just got the notification email today. Does anyone know what Genuine's prices will be?

https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-Mo ... C1043.aspx

All you need to know is right here. Prices, etc etc etc.

For Alzero,
I may be old and blind, but I spy with my little eye a made in usa stamp right on the front of the bottle.

It isn’t directly comparable due to shipping terms, but $10 a quart is half of what I paid a few weeks ago for Motul FD 2T oil on Amazon Prime.

EDIT: I don’t understand the Scooterworks tagline, “there’s oil in every bottle!� Is that some hipster cultural reference? It just sounds dumb to me...as if an intern were faced with a box saying “add text here.�

If you are simply looking for a good price on quality oil with the right specs, I'd suggest full synthetic Shell Rotella T6 by the gallon.

https://www.amazon.com/Shell-Rotella-Sy ... B01LH7L0KS

tenders wrote:It isn’t directly comparable due to shipping terms, but $10 a quart is half of what I paid a few weeks ago for Motul FD 2T oil on Amazon Prime.

EDIT: I don’t understand the Scooterworks tagline, “there’s oil in every bottle!� Is that some hipster cultural reference? It just sounds dumb to me...as if an intern were faced with a box saying “add text here.�

It's probably a preemptive legal maneuver to avoid lawsuits by niche collectors of empty oil bottles.

Dooglas wrote:If you are simply looking for a good price on quality oil with the right specs, I'd suggest full synthetic Shell Rotella T6 by the gallon.

https://www.amazon.com/Shell-Rotella-Sy ... B01LH7L0KS

Yes! Also available in 15W-40 full synthetic, at Walmart.

Stanza wrote:https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-Mo ... C1043.aspx

All you need to know is right here. Prices, etc etc etc.

For Alzero,
I may be old and blind, but I spy with my little eye a made in usa stamp right on the front of the bottle.

Thanks. Page bookmarked!

Keep in mind the Rotella t-6 oil mentioned is only for the 4 stroke scooters not the earlier 2-t Stella 2 strokes...

BuddyRaton wrote:WHY RED IS RED!

This!

I think it was a smart move by Genuine to put out oil with their name on it.

I would like to see them sell it by the gallon or offer a discount if you buy it by the case. But I also ride a lot more than most people.

I'll be using this oil from here on. Interesting that it's a 15W-40 weight with friction modifiers. To my knowledge no one else makes that. Heaviest weight I've seen with friction modifiers is 10W-30. Not that this will give me a noticeable power gain but maybe a bit less wear over the years. Also fully synthetic which is all I use in my cars & motorcycles after break in.

Isn't all oil a "friction modifier"? Highly doubt the supreme buying power of Genuine Scooters managed to commission an exclusive oil product beyond a custom-printed bottle.

All engine oils have those additives. The Wikipedia article cites research from 1922.

I try to avoid oil threads, but here goes.

No friction modifiers in engine oils specific to motorcycles. The engine oil is shared with the clutch for those bikes with wet clutches. There are a few motorcycles with dry clutches, but the vast majority are wet.

If there are friction modifiers in the oil, the clutch plates will slip and won't lock. Not good.

Friction modifiers are not an issue for most modern scooters, like Genuine. I use motorcycle specific oil or Shell Rotella T6 (JASO/MA rated) for all the bikes. That way I reduce the chances of using the wrong oil, should I have a brain fart.

The 15w-40 has "reduced friction modifiers," this oil is for 4 cycle scooters that call for JASO MB. The 10w-40 does not claim to have any friction modifiers, this oil is for motorcycles with wet clutches like the G400C that call for JASO MA2 oil.



From the Scooterworks website-
15w-40- "Your automatic scooter does not require the friction allowed by conventional MA oils- you don't have clutch plates that need to grab. With this in mind, MB oil is formulated with reduced friction modifiers. This reduces the heat generated by your engine while increasing your engine's longevity and fuel economy."
https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-4T ... gJj1_D_BwE


10w-40 - https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-4T ... gLBWPD_BwE

HowHH wrote:I try to avoid oil threads, but here goes.

There are a few motorcycles with dry clutches, but the vast majority are wet.

If there are friction modifiers in the oil, the clutch plates will slip and won't lock. Not good.

I really really avoid oil threads but WTF. These are scooters. The only wet clutches are in the 2T Stella's in a different part of MB.

CVTs have dry external clutches with shoes. No plates, no corks, so no clue what this has to do with anything regarding engine oil.

WHY RED IS RED!

Warning! I just checked the lab, and the nano-boric-acid thread isn't in its cage.

I will stick to Rotella T6 15w40 for $22 for 5 quarts from Walmart for my Hooligan. It isn't JASO MB, but rather MA-2, but I can't see it making much difference. I average 75MPG and I can't see doing much better on a Hooligan.

Whenever I see an OEM branding motor oil, I check to see if "snake" is listed as a main ingredient.

I forget where I saw it, but some of the true enthusiasts (for lack of a better term) went as far as to send off brands of oil to a laboratory for independent testng. There were variances, but one of the best oils that came back was good old SuperTech from Wal-Mart... you know, the stuff that costs less per gallon than the orange juice three aisles over. While I use the full-synthetic version in all my bikes (without issue or noted deterioration), my Land Cruiser gets the blue-jug cheapo stuff and I haven't had a problem there either after 100K miles and 10+ years... currently 312K on the clock.