Who's Crashed? [Crash Reports]
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- Wafflehaus
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I find it a bit sad that my first post is in the crash thread. Didn't expect that in the first two weeks. Accident actually occured after three days of owning my bike. I was pretty humiliated, but you live and learn. It was probably a good thing.
Anyway, hello to all of Modern Buddy. I'm loving my Italia and just wanted to say that, while researching a bike to buy, it was mostly the community here that turned the tide for me towards Genuine and the Buddy.
See you around.
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1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
Buddy 125 Italia.
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
I'm a noob, and it was completely my fault. It happened around 5:30, with the sun going down and a little drizzle.
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Yes. I left a stop sign too fast, was distracted and didn't see the gargantuan pothole sneaking up on me. Plus I braked and turned the wheel too hard, which amounted to a huge mistake.
4. Was the rider injured?
Sore shoulder, sore ribs, bruised ego.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Minor surface scratches and a busted headlight, which funny enough still works.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
My Buddy dealer said that there is a national shortage of lights right now, but when he gets them in, it should cost around 35 for the light plus 15 for repair.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
I have an automobile license.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
Nope. I intend to now.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Yes.
10. How fast was the rider going?
15mph, or so.
11. How far was the rider from home?
Three blocks.
Anyway, hello to all of Modern Buddy. I'm loving my Italia and just wanted to say that, while researching a bike to buy, it was mostly the community here that turned the tide for me towards Genuine and the Buddy.
See you around.
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1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
Buddy 125 Italia.
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
I'm a noob, and it was completely my fault. It happened around 5:30, with the sun going down and a little drizzle.
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Yes. I left a stop sign too fast, was distracted and didn't see the gargantuan pothole sneaking up on me. Plus I braked and turned the wheel too hard, which amounted to a huge mistake.
4. Was the rider injured?
Sore shoulder, sore ribs, bruised ego.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Minor surface scratches and a busted headlight, which funny enough still works.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
My Buddy dealer said that there is a national shortage of lights right now, but when he gets them in, it should cost around 35 for the light plus 15 for repair.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
I have an automobile license.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
Nope. I intend to now.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Yes.
10. How fast was the rider going?
15mph, or so.
11. How far was the rider from home?
Three blocks.
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Damn sorry to hear about the crash. Glad you're not seriously injured and that the damage to the Buddy isn't worse. And, uh—welcome to the forum!Wafflehaus wrote:I find it a bit sad that my first post is in the crash thread. Didn't expect that in the first two weeks. Accident actually occured after three days of owning my bike. I was pretty humiliated, but you live and learn. It was probably a good thing.
Anyway, hello to all of Modern Buddy. I'm loving my Italia and just wanted to say that, while researching a bike to buy, it was mostly the community here that turned the tide for me towards Genuine and the Buddy.
See you around.
This definitely goes into the "deceptively high confidence" category. The Buddy is so easy to ride, it coaxes you out onto the street and into situations when you may not be quite ready for them.
Meanwhile, you may be able to find a headlight through another dealer. Try posting in the For Sale/Wanted section. There are a number of crashed Buddys out there (:() and dealers may have the parts available from salvage scoots.
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Hi Everyone,
So sorry to hear about everyone's scooter crashes...
I've just finished reading through most of this thread and I've got to admit, I'm choking down a little (maybe a lot ) of fear.
Haven't posted for a while and after tons of daily reading and research I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to purchase the new Pamplona. Our dealer is getting his Genuine shipment in sometime towards the middle of April and I've got one on reserve. The MSF course isn't available till later in the spring but I'm certainly going to take it. Thanks to everyone on the MB board for all of the useful info. As the result, before I get the scooter, I'm purchasing a fullface helmet, armor and gloves for both myself and my daughter, for when we ride 2-up. I've learned so much from you guys and I really appreciate it.
Now about that gnawing, pesky fear...
So sorry to hear about everyone's scooter crashes...
I've just finished reading through most of this thread and I've got to admit, I'm choking down a little (maybe a lot ) of fear.
Haven't posted for a while and after tons of daily reading and research I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to purchase the new Pamplona. Our dealer is getting his Genuine shipment in sometime towards the middle of April and I've got one on reserve. The MSF course isn't available till later in the spring but I'm certainly going to take it. Thanks to everyone on the MB board for all of the useful info. As the result, before I get the scooter, I'm purchasing a fullface helmet, armor and gloves for both myself and my daughter, for when we ride 2-up. I've learned so much from you guys and I really appreciate it.
Now about that gnawing, pesky fear...
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Practice, practice, practice.lastbestwoman wrote:
Now about that gnawing, pesky fear...
If you look over the accidents on the thread, it goes along with most statistcs for motorcycle/scooter accidents:
- most happen close to either work or home
- most happen at low speeds (under 35mph)
The more practice you have the more confident you will feel. By practice I mean additional seat time on a safe parking lot (or your street if it is a quiet one) and going over quick stops, riding over edges (use a 2x4), swerving, skid control, etc, etc. Books such as Proficient Motorcycling talk extensively about the hazards and how to prepare to deal with them.
YOUTUBE has lots of accident videos with scooters, BUT there are thousands more people riding scooters that have NOT had accidents.
You can start practicing right now while driving your car. Start thinking as if you were riding the Buddy, start thinking about lane positioning, trying to "guess" what the people around you are going to do, keeping proper distances and so on.
Focus on the positive and practice, practice, practice.
And last, if you get the Pamplona and you scratch it, I will have to give you a lecture as that is where I am from . . . but you can scratch the St. Tropez all you want.
Beer is the answer . . . what was the question?
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Hey, thanks for the heads up about the For Sale/Wanted area. I didn't even think of that. I may also try Scooterworks. I just got their cat in the mail today, so hopefully I can find what i'm looking for in there.ericalm wrote: Damn sorry to hear about the crash. Glad you're not seriously injured and that the damage to the Buddy isn't worse. And, uh—welcome to the forum!
This definitely goes into the "deceptively high confidence" category. The Buddy is so easy to ride, it coaxes you out onto the street and into situations when you may not be quite ready for them.
Meanwhile, you may be able to find a headlight through another dealer. Try posting in the For Sale/Wanted section. There are a number of crashed Buddys out there (:() and dealers may have the parts available from salvage scoots.
and yes, even after only a few days my confidence was probably way too high. Total awareness is key and it's something i'm still working on.
I'm losing my edge, to better-looking people with better ideas.
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I have two suggestions.
1. Be VERY aware. Do NOT daydream or play with the i-pod. You are just asking for trouble.
2. Relax. Your body, not your mind. A tense body is a body that is unable to respond quickly to input. It first has to relax from it's tense position and then tighten back up in the appropriate manner...maybe too late by then.
As stated before, practice, practice, practice. Until you are able to relax your body under ordinary riding conditions.
--Keys
1. Be VERY aware. Do NOT daydream or play with the i-pod. You are just asking for trouble.
2. Relax. Your body, not your mind. A tense body is a body that is unable to respond quickly to input. It first has to relax from it's tense position and then tighten back up in the appropriate manner...maybe too late by then.
As stated before, practice, practice, practice. Until you are able to relax your body under ordinary riding conditions.
--Keys
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ATGATT
I recently passed a milestone ...
After 4 surgeries
4 months in a wheelchair
and a 4th of a million dollars
I am walking again.
I am hesitant to give details ... the numbered question list above has its educational uses, but it would be foolish for anyone heading to court to answer them. My attorney says I should be careful not to speculate about anything I don't know for certain. And no, I was not cited - the other guy was, but there are already insurance companies filing lawsuits against each other, I have a lawyer to make sure they don't cut deals between each other that leave me out. Sadly it is far more important for the victim of an injury accident to get a lawyer than the person cited - none of the insurance companies are looking out for you, and the medical bills are astronomical.
Here is one thing I know for certain:
I am alive because I wore my gear.
I was struck while stopping at a red light by a full size pickup truck. The driver was leaving a parking lot and turning left, he crossed two lanes to hit me. I saw him look right through me, never meeting my eye.
My bike was totaled, and I nearly was too. I suffered 7 long bone fractures in the upper and lower right arm, lower right leg (compound), and a busted rib that punctured a lung. I have nerve damage in my leg and arm. My right hand (and I am exclusively right handed) was almost completely paralyzed.
I now have titanium reinforced bones in my arm, and a nifty titanium rod running through the middle of my tibia (leg bone). I may be bionic, but I'm not quite Steve Austin yet ...
What is amazing is what I don't have - there were no head, neck or spinal injuries, and no joint injuries to shoulder, elbows or knees - I had no injuries wherever I had armor.
I return to the office on Monday, the nerve function in my arm has improved enough that I now have nearly the full range of motion and control of my right hand - although it is still slightly numb, weak and not always steady. But I'm thrilled that a potentially career ending injury has improved to the point where I can attempt to return to work.
My balance is great, I threw my crutches aside within two days of leaving the wheelchair because I was just carrying them. Walking is hard work, but oh so wonderful. I miss riding, and I hope to be on a bicycle soon (good therapy), but I've been warned that I shouldn't get on a scooter or motorcycle again while my mother is still alive. I don't know, I may just have to not tell her.
It didn't matter how good a rider I was, or how aware I was of my surroundings, I was a sitting duck because a guy in a big truck looked right at me without seeing me. - And no, I don't hate him - he didn't intend for any of this to happen. He did apologize. I was well looked after, even though there was only light traffic a lot of people immediately came to my aid - I listened to 3 people calling 911 on cell phones.
If I impress you with nothing else, I want you all to understand that I am only alive because I wore the gear. That and the extraordinary skill of a team of doctors is why I have a chance of regaining something resembling a normal life.
Dress for the crash - not for the ride.
- Mark
After 4 surgeries
4 months in a wheelchair
and a 4th of a million dollars
I am walking again.
I am hesitant to give details ... the numbered question list above has its educational uses, but it would be foolish for anyone heading to court to answer them. My attorney says I should be careful not to speculate about anything I don't know for certain. And no, I was not cited - the other guy was, but there are already insurance companies filing lawsuits against each other, I have a lawyer to make sure they don't cut deals between each other that leave me out. Sadly it is far more important for the victim of an injury accident to get a lawyer than the person cited - none of the insurance companies are looking out for you, and the medical bills are astronomical.
Here is one thing I know for certain:
I am alive because I wore my gear.
I was struck while stopping at a red light by a full size pickup truck. The driver was leaving a parking lot and turning left, he crossed two lanes to hit me. I saw him look right through me, never meeting my eye.
My bike was totaled, and I nearly was too. I suffered 7 long bone fractures in the upper and lower right arm, lower right leg (compound), and a busted rib that punctured a lung. I have nerve damage in my leg and arm. My right hand (and I am exclusively right handed) was almost completely paralyzed.
I now have titanium reinforced bones in my arm, and a nifty titanium rod running through the middle of my tibia (leg bone). I may be bionic, but I'm not quite Steve Austin yet ...
What is amazing is what I don't have - there were no head, neck or spinal injuries, and no joint injuries to shoulder, elbows or knees - I had no injuries wherever I had armor.
I return to the office on Monday, the nerve function in my arm has improved enough that I now have nearly the full range of motion and control of my right hand - although it is still slightly numb, weak and not always steady. But I'm thrilled that a potentially career ending injury has improved to the point where I can attempt to return to work.
My balance is great, I threw my crutches aside within two days of leaving the wheelchair because I was just carrying them. Walking is hard work, but oh so wonderful. I miss riding, and I hope to be on a bicycle soon (good therapy), but I've been warned that I shouldn't get on a scooter or motorcycle again while my mother is still alive. I don't know, I may just have to not tell her.
It didn't matter how good a rider I was, or how aware I was of my surroundings, I was a sitting duck because a guy in a big truck looked right at me without seeing me. - And no, I don't hate him - he didn't intend for any of this to happen. He did apologize. I was well looked after, even though there was only light traffic a lot of people immediately came to my aid - I listened to 3 people calling 911 on cell phones.
If I impress you with nothing else, I want you all to understand that I am only alive because I wore the gear. That and the extraordinary skill of a team of doctors is why I have a chance of regaining something resembling a normal life.
Dress for the crash - not for the ride.
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Re: ATGATT
Mark, I'm glad you're healing. That was one of the most painful posts I've ever read, anywhere. Again, I'm glad you're healing and I wish you the best, most complete recovery possible.BlueMark wrote:I recently passed a milestone ...
After 4 surgeries
4 months in a wheelchair
and a 4th of a million dollars
I am walking again.
Whew!
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Re: ATGATT
Hey Mark, great advice (I love my armored jacket) and I'm glad you're up and walking again.BlueMark wrote:After 4 surgeries
4 months in a wheelchair
and a 4th of a million dollars
I am walking again.
RedCass
oh man im am soooo sorry to here of the bluemark!! it really get you to thinken about all the people in cars and what there not doing..... and that is driveing there car. im getting my blur this weekend and with still a foot of snow on the ground there will be know riding for me till late spring. you can darn well bet i will be takeing some kind of safty class. even in a small and i mean small town were i have seen crashes with cars and bikes. i hope to here that your back on two wheels soon. reading these storys as made me a better driver(car) and i really look well i am really glad that you made !!
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Well, took my first spill. And it was silly....
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
Buddy 125 Orange.
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
My fault completeley. Around noon.
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
OH YEAH!
4. Was the rider injured?
Bruised wrist--nothing major.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Minor. A little dirt; a scratched headlight frame. Buddy, being the more intelligent one, landed in the grass.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
Fortunately, nothing.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
I have an motorcycle license.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
Yes, but there is no help for a sudden lack of common sense!
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Yes.
10. How fast was the rider going?
Not sure. I'd slowed from 60 to, I think, about 20-30 max.
11. How far was the rider from home?
Over 15 miles.
Basically, I was riding out of town and had helmet troubles--the wind was whipping up into my helmet and even forcing my head to turn a little; not a safe way to ride. So I pulled over to adjust my helm and hit some gravel. The silly thing is I saw the gravel but I thought I'd slowed enough to not have a problem. Once contact was made, the Buddy FLEW out from under me and I hit the ground. Armored jacket and jeans did well but I put my hand out as I rolled and jammed my wrist. Ice and Aleve even as I type.
The wind was whipping up from my chest--blowing up under my visor. This is not an issue when I have a windshield but it broke (backorded for warranty) and it causes a problem now at speeds over 50 or so. I cannot wait to get my windshield back!
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
Buddy 125 Orange.
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
My fault completeley. Around noon.
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
OH YEAH!
4. Was the rider injured?
Bruised wrist--nothing major.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Minor. A little dirt; a scratched headlight frame. Buddy, being the more intelligent one, landed in the grass.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
Fortunately, nothing.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
I have an motorcycle license.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
Yes, but there is no help for a sudden lack of common sense!
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Yes.
10. How fast was the rider going?
Not sure. I'd slowed from 60 to, I think, about 20-30 max.
11. How far was the rider from home?
Over 15 miles.
Basically, I was riding out of town and had helmet troubles--the wind was whipping up into my helmet and even forcing my head to turn a little; not a safe way to ride. So I pulled over to adjust my helm and hit some gravel. The silly thing is I saw the gravel but I thought I'd slowed enough to not have a problem. Once contact was made, the Buddy FLEW out from under me and I hit the ground. Armored jacket and jeans did well but I put my hand out as I rolled and jammed my wrist. Ice and Aleve even as I type.
The wind was whipping up from my chest--blowing up under my visor. This is not an issue when I have a windshield but it broke (backorded for warranty) and it causes a problem now at speeds over 50 or so. I cannot wait to get my windshield back!
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I just came across this website and thought everyone should know about it:
scooter-relief.org
"To provide aid and support for scooterists in need after natural disasters, accidents or medical emergencies."
scooter-relief.org
"To provide aid and support for scooterists in need after natural disasters, accidents or medical emergencies."
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pugbuddy, what a major bummer! I'm glad you weren't more seriously injured, and I'm curious to know which part of your windshield broke. One of my brackets snapped last spring, which was a major bummer.Corsair wrote:I just came across this website and thought everyone should know about it:
scooter-relief.org
"To provide aid and support for scooterists in need after natural disasters, accidents or medical emergencies."
Corsair, thanks so much for posting the Scooter Relief link. I hope no one here needs it, but I'm glad the fund is there.
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Poli,
A bracket on mine broke too. I think it got a little loose and the vibrations did the rest. Not sure, though. I have the Prima windshield and it's on backorder now so I'm only tooling about town on nice days until it comes in! 70 degrees and sunny yesterday; 30 and sleeting today. Oklahoma weather....
A bracket on mine broke too. I think it got a little loose and the vibrations did the rest. Not sure, though. I have the Prima windshield and it's on backorder now so I'm only tooling about town on nice days until it comes in! 70 degrees and sunny yesterday; 30 and sleeting today. Oklahoma weather....
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1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color? 125cc Black/silver
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur? I guess it qualifies as rider error, hit wet oily pavement while coming to a stop. 8:40 am.
3. Could the crash have been avoided? Probably if I was on a different portion of the pavement, nothing would have happened.
4. Was the rider injured? Bruises, mild concussion.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy? Scrapes on plastic.
6. Cost of repairs, if any? Gear: $400, Buddy: $150 if I replace bits
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neiher? License and motorcycle endorsement.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course? Yep, also have a motorcycle.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner? Yes.
10. How fast was the rider going? ~20 mph
11. How far was the rider from home? 2 miles
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur? I guess it qualifies as rider error, hit wet oily pavement while coming to a stop. 8:40 am.
3. Could the crash have been avoided? Probably if I was on a different portion of the pavement, nothing would have happened.
4. Was the rider injured? Bruises, mild concussion.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy? Scrapes on plastic.
6. Cost of repairs, if any? Gear: $400, Buddy: $150 if I replace bits
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neiher? License and motorcycle endorsement.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course? Yep, also have a motorcycle.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner? Yes.
10. How fast was the rider going? ~20 mph
11. How far was the rider from home? 2 miles
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1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color? 125 SI
2. Was the crash due to rider error? kinda, hit an oil spot on a just started light drizzle kind of road and i should have left more stopping room. traffic stopped abruptly for no visible reason (rush hour). What time of day did it occur? rush hour: 8ish in the am on a major road
3. Could the crash have been avoided? possibly, but it was just one of those things where the stars lined up and not for me
4. Was the rider injured? minor concussion and bent left pinkie, but no rips or gashes or protruding bones: i was fully geared up
5. What was the damage to the Buddy? broken left mirror, badly scratched up topcase, various other small scratches, and a scratched up headlight rim thing
6. Cost of repairs, if any? $15 for a new mirror amd $20 for a headlight thingie
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neiher? license
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course? yes
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner? yes
10. How fast was the rider going? maybe 20-25 mph
11. How far was the rider from home? couple miles
like others, a couple drivers stopped to help and make sure i was alright. the woman in the car ahead of me stopped when i disappeared from her rear view mirror.
2. Was the crash due to rider error? kinda, hit an oil spot on a just started light drizzle kind of road and i should have left more stopping room. traffic stopped abruptly for no visible reason (rush hour). What time of day did it occur? rush hour: 8ish in the am on a major road
3. Could the crash have been avoided? possibly, but it was just one of those things where the stars lined up and not for me
4. Was the rider injured? minor concussion and bent left pinkie, but no rips or gashes or protruding bones: i was fully geared up
5. What was the damage to the Buddy? broken left mirror, badly scratched up topcase, various other small scratches, and a scratched up headlight rim thing
6. Cost of repairs, if any? $15 for a new mirror amd $20 for a headlight thingie
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neiher? license
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course? yes
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner? yes
10. How fast was the rider going? maybe 20-25 mph
11. How far was the rider from home? couple miles
like others, a couple drivers stopped to help and make sure i was alright. the woman in the car ahead of me stopped when i disappeared from her rear view mirror.
WE'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY!!! Starbuck, BSG
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Really can't overdo it on sharing this thought with new riders or wannabe new riders. Nobody expects to crash their scoot in the first week or two but it it probably the time when you are most vulnerable. You have limited experience and are likely to be overconfident. Your only defense is to take an MSF course and practice, practice , practice in low risk surroundings.Wafflehaus wrote:I find it a bit sad that my first post is in the crash thread. Didn't expect that in the first two weeks. Accident actually occured after three days of owning my bike. I was pretty humiliated, but you live and learn. It was probably a good thing.
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Two Seattle members on the same day!
Sorry to hear about the crashes. I know how scary and nerve-wracking that can be. Glad you're both okay.
These really underscore the potential for danger at fairly low speeds.
Sorry to hear about the crashes. I know how scary and nerve-wracking that can be. Glad you're both okay.
These really underscore the potential for danger at fairly low speeds.
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Re: ATGATT
I would highly suggest that if or when you start riding again that you be very very cautious about any remaining weakness in your right hand. Be honest with yourself, if you need to slam on the brakes will that hand be up to the task?BlueMark wrote: but I've been warned that I shouldn't get on a scooter or motorcycle again while my mother is still alive. I don't know, I may just have to not tell her.
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actually, eric, my spill happened back in november; i'm just tardy in posting it here (although i posted it under a separate thread back then). but, ditto on the low speed accidents.ericalm wrote:Two Seattle members on the same day!
Sorry to hear about the crashes. I know how scary and nerve-wracking that can be. Glad you're both okay.
These really underscore the potential for danger at fairly low speeds.
and bluemark, i'm so glad you're up and walking again. at first i thought i was reading a post from a guy at work. he was on his mc out in the california desert and got hit by wind while going around 70mph, slowed down, but hit some gravel and out the bike went from under him. he was fully geared up, but ended up in hospital for a year and like you has a lot of titanium. his rehab was two years and he still walks with a cane.
WE'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY!!! Starbuck, BSG
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I was hoping I would never get to post in this thread but today I laid my scooter down.
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
2007 Cream Buddy 125
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
The guy in front of me slammed on his brakes real fast coming to a complete stop so I tried to brake as fast as I could, but I ended up falling to my left side...so I would say it's mostly my fault. About 1:30 PM
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Perhaps I could have been going a bit slower. I could have kept a little more distance between me and him...but I think having a bit more experience would have helped more than anything.
4. Was the rider injured?
Just a little road rash on my left hip, knee, and hand. Luckily I was wearing a leather jacket or it would have been a lot worse because my elbow hit first taking most of the fall.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Busted rear brake lever, busted headset, and chrome headlight ring.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
I haven't checked yet.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or nei(t)her?
License.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
Uh no...The class is full 'till next year.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Well I still owe about $600 to GE
10. How fast was the rider going?
40 mph
11. How far was the rider from home?
About 2 miles...but that's just a coincedence because I was on my way from one job site to a different job site.
I'd say for how fast I was going and how much traffic there was I fared pretty good. The road I crashed on was a four lane road and I was in the left lane and luckily when I fell I landed in the left turn lane so the guy behind me didn't run me over. Thankfully a guy in the other lane stopped and took my scooter to the side so I could catch my breath.
I had a Fazoli's cup in the cupholder and it fell out in the wreck and got a bit of road rash but all the soda stayed in. Fazoli's shure does make some tough cups.
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
2007 Cream Buddy 125
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
The guy in front of me slammed on his brakes real fast coming to a complete stop so I tried to brake as fast as I could, but I ended up falling to my left side...so I would say it's mostly my fault. About 1:30 PM
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Perhaps I could have been going a bit slower. I could have kept a little more distance between me and him...but I think having a bit more experience would have helped more than anything.
4. Was the rider injured?
Just a little road rash on my left hip, knee, and hand. Luckily I was wearing a leather jacket or it would have been a lot worse because my elbow hit first taking most of the fall.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Busted rear brake lever, busted headset, and chrome headlight ring.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
I haven't checked yet.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or nei(t)her?
License.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
Uh no...The class is full 'till next year.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Well I still owe about $600 to GE
10. How fast was the rider going?
40 mph
11. How far was the rider from home?
About 2 miles...but that's just a coincedence because I was on my way from one job site to a different job site.
I'd say for how fast I was going and how much traffic there was I fared pretty good. The road I crashed on was a four lane road and I was in the left lane and luckily when I fell I landed in the left turn lane so the guy behind me didn't run me over. Thankfully a guy in the other lane stopped and took my scooter to the side so I could catch my breath.
I had a Fazoli's cup in the cupholder and it fell out in the wreck and got a bit of road rash but all the soda stayed in. Fazoli's shure does make some tough cups.
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dang...glad to hear you weren't seriously hurt. how much do think it'll be to fix up your buddy?
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Note to self: it's time to practice emergency stopping again.
For those who are waiting to get into the MSF, and even those who have taken it, Proficient Motorcycling has some great tips and advice as well as some things to practice. Riding around is not necessarily good experience—as they say, it's not practice that makes perfect, it's perfect practice.
Practice the skills you need out there and you will be glad when the unexpected crops up. And always give yourself extra following distance. The more time you have to stop when the unexpected happens, the more likely you are to stop successfully and that you won't get smacked by the daydreaming cager behind you.
For those who are waiting to get into the MSF, and even those who have taken it, Proficient Motorcycling has some great tips and advice as well as some things to practice. Riding around is not necessarily good experience—as they say, it's not practice that makes perfect, it's perfect practice.
Practice the skills you need out there and you will be glad when the unexpected crops up. And always give yourself extra following distance. The more time you have to stop when the unexpected happens, the more likely you are to stop successfully and that you won't get smacked by the daydreaming cager behind you.
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UGH! Ines and I took a spill today. Here is my contribution to this thread.
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
125 - Zombie Blood
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
It was completely and totally my own unthinking stupidity. It was about 7:30 am this morning, I was on my way to a doctor's appointment, and to begin with, I wasn't very sure of the location in the first place. i think that contributed. I was at an intersection where a road meets the freeway feeder, in front of the damn office, and I decided to continue straight, when at the last minute i saw a sign that said my lane was a turn only lane. so last minute, no time to lean, what did i do? a totally and completely newbie thing: i turned the bars. took the requisite spill. oy, it was humiliating!
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Absolutely. If I had taken the time to pinpoint the office's location, I would have been confident about where I was going and would have been much less easily distracted. I would have noticed right away that I was in a turn only lane, and I wouldn't have even needed to consider going straight.
4. Was the rider injured?
No. Although I feel some pretty mean bruises developing, one on my left calf (no idea how that happened. handlebar?) and one on my right knee (which i'm pretty sure did hit the ground). Plus my ego's sporting a shiner.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Ines took it like a damn champ. Only damage is a scrape to the top of the headlight bezel, and scratches on the right "rear passenger foot spot". i need to hustle to get those replaced before my parents get into town, otherwise my mother will have a heart attack when she realizes what those scrapes imply.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
Shouldn't be too bad.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or nei(t)her?
Motorcycle license.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
yes.
10. How fast was the rider going?
goddamn, musta been about 10 mph or less. suck.
11. How far was the rider from home?
bout 12 miles.
this SUPER sucks, i really didn't think it would happen so soon, but i am happy to report that both machine and i took the spill pretty well. there weren't any cars behind me or next to me, and as soon as we came to a complete stop on the floor (awww ) i just stood up, picked up scoot, and rolled it onto the nearest sidewalk. i put her on the sidestand, checked that we were both okay, caught my breath, then rode into the damn doctor's office parking lot. i didn't cry or faint or any other such womanly nonsense, either. which makes me sorta proud of myself because i always cry when i'm scared.
It is immensely important to make yourself let go of the handlebars as soon as you hit pavement. I rolled the throttle somewhere during the fall, which made a sucky situation even worse.
can i just say, too, you guys, that i have a very strong suspicion that Saint Christopher is out to get me. i was very happy to procure an already blessed prayer card of Saint Christopher (patron saint of travelers) that i laminated and was going to velcro onto the steering column, and this morning, i popped Saint Christopher into my pet carrier so he'd be with me. and it turns out that my first spill occurred on the very first day that Saint Christopher rode my scooter with me. maybe he's one of those that doesn't like to ride cupcake?
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
125 - Zombie Blood
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
It was completely and totally my own unthinking stupidity. It was about 7:30 am this morning, I was on my way to a doctor's appointment, and to begin with, I wasn't very sure of the location in the first place. i think that contributed. I was at an intersection where a road meets the freeway feeder, in front of the damn office, and I decided to continue straight, when at the last minute i saw a sign that said my lane was a turn only lane. so last minute, no time to lean, what did i do? a totally and completely newbie thing: i turned the bars. took the requisite spill. oy, it was humiliating!
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Absolutely. If I had taken the time to pinpoint the office's location, I would have been confident about where I was going and would have been much less easily distracted. I would have noticed right away that I was in a turn only lane, and I wouldn't have even needed to consider going straight.
4. Was the rider injured?
No. Although I feel some pretty mean bruises developing, one on my left calf (no idea how that happened. handlebar?) and one on my right knee (which i'm pretty sure did hit the ground). Plus my ego's sporting a shiner.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Ines took it like a damn champ. Only damage is a scrape to the top of the headlight bezel, and scratches on the right "rear passenger foot spot". i need to hustle to get those replaced before my parents get into town, otherwise my mother will have a heart attack when she realizes what those scrapes imply.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
Shouldn't be too bad.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or nei(t)her?
Motorcycle license.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
yes.
10. How fast was the rider going?
goddamn, musta been about 10 mph or less. suck.
11. How far was the rider from home?
bout 12 miles.
this SUPER sucks, i really didn't think it would happen so soon, but i am happy to report that both machine and i took the spill pretty well. there weren't any cars behind me or next to me, and as soon as we came to a complete stop on the floor (awww ) i just stood up, picked up scoot, and rolled it onto the nearest sidewalk. i put her on the sidestand, checked that we were both okay, caught my breath, then rode into the damn doctor's office parking lot. i didn't cry or faint or any other such womanly nonsense, either. which makes me sorta proud of myself because i always cry when i'm scared.
It is immensely important to make yourself let go of the handlebars as soon as you hit pavement. I rolled the throttle somewhere during the fall, which made a sucky situation even worse.
can i just say, too, you guys, that i have a very strong suspicion that Saint Christopher is out to get me. i was very happy to procure an already blessed prayer card of Saint Christopher (patron saint of travelers) that i laminated and was going to velcro onto the steering column, and this morning, i popped Saint Christopher into my pet carrier so he'd be with me. and it turns out that my first spill occurred on the very first day that Saint Christopher rode my scooter with me. maybe he's one of those that doesn't like to ride cupcake?
sunil: "And if you spend 40 dollars making a pizza then you sir are a retard."
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madtolive: Well, crap. Sorry to hear about your spill. Glad you and the Buddy are (relatively) okay. Shops need to stock up on headlight bezels, which seem to be one of the most common things to break.
As far as the handlebars: One of the reasons it's always best to shut your scooter off with the kill switch is to get used to using it and so your hand gets used to its location. If you start to go down, kill that engine ASAP! I know it's hard to think of that while mid-crash (the mind tends to go totally blank), so it has to become instinctive.
Unfortunately, a lot of how we react in a near miss or crash has to be instinctive (I know, I'm misusing that word, but you know what I mean). With so many new scooterists this spring, I've been reading a lot of similar reports. Someone gets a new scooter, gets good enough to ride around, takes a first spill due to inexperience. All I can say (to all the new riders) is practice really helps! I know the urge is there to get out and ride, but take your time and really practice those turns and leaning. And take the MSF!
Fortunately we've had few injuries or wrecked Buddys reported.
As far as the handlebars: One of the reasons it's always best to shut your scooter off with the kill switch is to get used to using it and so your hand gets used to its location. If you start to go down, kill that engine ASAP! I know it's hard to think of that while mid-crash (the mind tends to go totally blank), so it has to become instinctive.
Unfortunately, a lot of how we react in a near miss or crash has to be instinctive (I know, I'm misusing that word, but you know what I mean). With so many new scooterists this spring, I've been reading a lot of similar reports. Someone gets a new scooter, gets good enough to ride around, takes a first spill due to inexperience. All I can say (to all the new riders) is practice really helps! I know the urge is there to get out and ride, but take your time and really practice those turns and leaning. And take the MSF!
Fortunately we've had few injuries or wrecked Buddys reported.
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- charlie55
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My turn in the barrel.....
I posted the details in the Blur forum, but was asked by the admin to repost here. I was basically faced with the choice of (while coming out of an S-curve) swerving into oncoming traffic on my left, trying to swerve around a pickup entering from a side street on my right (the driver of which could not make up his mind as to whether to stop or go), and trying to straighten out and then brake while heading into a patch of sand in the middle of the road. I chose door #3 and me and the Blur went for a little toboggan ride.
And now for the particulars:
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed?
- None, '06 Blur
2. Was the crash due to rider error?
- Always possible, but I don't think so.
3. What time of day did it occur?
- About 3:00 PM
4. Could the crash have been avoided?
- Yes, if New Jersey would occasionally clean up the crap that the
dump trucks, cement mixers, and trash haulers drop all over the
roads. But that'd require brains, effort, and the willingness to do
something without being bribed.
5. Was the rider injured?
- Road rash, both elbows/forearms, both knees. Pulled muscle in left
leg.
6. What was the damage to the scoot?
- Some scuffed panels, nothing structural or mechanical.
7. Cost of repairs?
- Zippo: stealing library paste and Magic Markers from the kids'
schoolbags.
8. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
- License
9. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
- Yes, best money I ever spent. Probably saved my butt today.
10. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
- Yes.
11. How fast was the rider going?
- 20 - 25
12. How far was the rider from home?
- Approximately 12 miles
13. What were the medical costs?
- One bottle hydrogen peroxide, 1/2 tube Bacitracin, 2 Advil.
14. What gear did you have on and do you think it helped minimize your
injuries in this case?
- Shoei TZ-R full-face (orange for visibility)
- Goatskin gloves (yellow for visibility)
- Medium weight windbreaker over a heavyweight sweatshirt, plain ol'
jeans, boots extending approximately 2 inches over the ankles. Visor
got scuffed, but helmet never directly impacted the ground. Odd thing
is that despite the road rash, not a single sign of damage on the jeans
or jacket, but the sweatshirt elbows were shredded. Wearing a full-
face most definitely saved my classically-sculpted Greek god of a
face.
15. What if anything would you do differently?
- Mount a pair of Ma Deuces up front and connect 'em to the horn
button. Truthfully, never, ever again venture out at 3:00 PM during
the school year. Just too much madness going on.
Regards,
Charlie
I posted the details in the Blur forum, but was asked by the admin to repost here. I was basically faced with the choice of (while coming out of an S-curve) swerving into oncoming traffic on my left, trying to swerve around a pickup entering from a side street on my right (the driver of which could not make up his mind as to whether to stop or go), and trying to straighten out and then brake while heading into a patch of sand in the middle of the road. I chose door #3 and me and the Blur went for a little toboggan ride.
And now for the particulars:
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed?
- None, '06 Blur
2. Was the crash due to rider error?
- Always possible, but I don't think so.
3. What time of day did it occur?
- About 3:00 PM
4. Could the crash have been avoided?
- Yes, if New Jersey would occasionally clean up the crap that the
dump trucks, cement mixers, and trash haulers drop all over the
roads. But that'd require brains, effort, and the willingness to do
something without being bribed.
5. Was the rider injured?
- Road rash, both elbows/forearms, both knees. Pulled muscle in left
leg.
6. What was the damage to the scoot?
- Some scuffed panels, nothing structural or mechanical.
7. Cost of repairs?
- Zippo: stealing library paste and Magic Markers from the kids'
schoolbags.
8. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
- License
9. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
- Yes, best money I ever spent. Probably saved my butt today.
10. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
- Yes.
11. How fast was the rider going?
- 20 - 25
12. How far was the rider from home?
- Approximately 12 miles
13. What were the medical costs?
- One bottle hydrogen peroxide, 1/2 tube Bacitracin, 2 Advil.
14. What gear did you have on and do you think it helped minimize your
injuries in this case?
- Shoei TZ-R full-face (orange for visibility)
- Goatskin gloves (yellow for visibility)
- Medium weight windbreaker over a heavyweight sweatshirt, plain ol'
jeans, boots extending approximately 2 inches over the ankles. Visor
got scuffed, but helmet never directly impacted the ground. Odd thing
is that despite the road rash, not a single sign of damage on the jeans
or jacket, but the sweatshirt elbows were shredded. Wearing a full-
face most definitely saved my classically-sculpted Greek god of a
face.
15. What if anything would you do differently?
- Mount a pair of Ma Deuces up front and connect 'em to the horn
button. Truthfully, never, ever again venture out at 3:00 PM during
the school year. Just too much madness going on.
Regards,
Charlie
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Madtolive, glad your swoopy bangs (joke from another thread) were not seriously injured! It's amazing how the adrenaline rush from the accident will have you react quickly to recover your scoot. When I dropped mine, I immediately rolled out of the street to avoid any traffic--my first thought being to not get run over! My second thought was to find my scoot and my third to figure out if I was hurt or not!this SUPER sucks, i really didn't think it would happen so soon, but i am happy to report that both machine and i took the spill pretty well. there weren't any cars behind me or next to me, and as soon as we came to a complete stop on the floor (awww ) i just stood up, picked up scoot, and rolled it onto the nearest sidewalk. i put her on the sidestand, checked that we were both okay, caught my breath, then rode into the damn doctor's office parking lot. i didn't cry or faint or any other such womanly nonsense, either. which makes me sorta proud of myself because i always cry when i'm scared.
I thought I had only bruised my right wrist but, as it is still sensitive and healing only very slowly (3 months later), I think I may have suffered a hairline fracture. Also, I've had a mildly painful problem with my left elbow since the accident which I'm considering getting checked out as it may be a tendon issue. Push-ups are not an option right now!
All this to say to everyone: be sure to evaluate your injuries over the next few days. The adrenaline rush you have during the accident may mask a more serious injury than you think.
Read them all, Amy! There's a LOT to learn from this thread. It could keep you alive!OH MY GOD!!!!!! I don't think I should of read all of these
It makes me fearful now
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Really, the intent with the thread isn't to scare people... too much. It's really so we can learn from others' experiences.AmyNTX wrote:OH MY GOD!!!!!! I don't think I should of read all of these
It makes me fearful now
I also hope some people will take away that scootering is serious business (though crazy fun) and that even good, responsible riders sometimes crash. Yeah, it sucks.
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This is interesting. I've never heard this before, and in fact I believe my dealer told me the exact opposite for some reason. Let me think... oh yeah, I remember! I think he said to use the key because if you use the kill switch you are likely to just pull the key straight out without turning it to one of the two positions where it can be safely removed and ruin your ignition switch. ericalm's reasoning makes more sense so I guess I'll start using the kill switch from now on. I always lock the handlebars anyway, so it is very unlikely that I would just yank the key straight out without turing it to a safe position to be removed.ericalm wrote:As far as the handlebars: One of the reasons it's always best to shut your scooter off with the kill switch is to get used to using it and so your hand gets used to its location. If you start to go down, kill that engine ASAP! I know it's hard to think of that while mid-crash (the mind tends to go totally blank), so it has to become instinctive.
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charlie, i'm glad you're not hurt too terribly! i'd say you def. picked the right door, even if you still took a spill, you prolly ended up better off than if you'd chosen either of the other two. i hope your road rash heals quickly!
and yes, pugbuddy, my fullface also kept my swoopy bangs impeccably swoopy.
hurray for that.Wearing a full-face most definitely saved my classically-sculpted Greek god of a face.
and yes, pugbuddy, my fullface also kept my swoopy bangs impeccably swoopy.
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Thanks all.
Can't believe it, but the rashes are all pretty much scabbed over already, and it's been less than 24 hours. Always been a fast healer. Must've gotten it from my maternal grandfather. His cure for any type of laceration was a quick washout with turpentine followed by a generous wrapping of black electrical tape (the cloth type).
Her Majesty raised hell because I didn't go to the ER. But frankly, if I didn't get back on the scoot right then and there, I'd probably never have gotten back on one at all.
Besides, it saved me the $75.00 they would have charged to tow and store it, and I'm one cheap bastard.
Regards,
Charlie
Can't believe it, but the rashes are all pretty much scabbed over already, and it's been less than 24 hours. Always been a fast healer. Must've gotten it from my maternal grandfather. His cure for any type of laceration was a quick washout with turpentine followed by a generous wrapping of black electrical tape (the cloth type).
Her Majesty raised hell because I didn't go to the ER. But frankly, if I didn't get back on the scoot right then and there, I'd probably never have gotten back on one at all.
Besides, it saved me the $75.00 they would have charged to tow and store it, and I'm one cheap bastard.
Regards,
Charlie
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I had a mini accident with all my gear on, full face, jacket, gloves. Going to the bank, a woman quickly went into reverse, while I was riding along, I saw her lights turn on when she started the car, but I assumed she saw me. When I was still riding, almost right behind her, she floors it into reverse and hits my fender. I honked several times hoping she would stop before she hit me, but she claimed she didnt hear my stebel. I just buffed and cleaned the fender with my shirt, it didnt look bad enough that I needed to call the police and report it, it was just a few scratches and smudges.
I cleaned alot of it up at home, now you cant even see it unless you look up close.
I cleaned alot of it up at home, now you cant even see it unless you look up close.
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I, too, did not expect to be on this list so soon. I have just under 1000 miles on my buddy.
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? 150 St Tropez.
2. Was the crash due to rider error? Definately my fault. What time of day did it occur? Dusk, 1830pm
3. Could the crash have been avoided? Absolutely
4. Was the rider injured? Yes, road rash, bruised/sprained left foot.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy? Minor scratches to tour box and headlight cowling
6. Cost of repairs, if any? I haven't checked yet.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither? Yes, I am licensed
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course? No
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner? Yes
10. How fast was the rider going? About 25mph
11. How far was the rider from home? About 1 mile.
I posted this elsewhere, but I leaned too sharply into a left turn and my center stand hit the pavement and caused the buddy to shoot out from under me. My fault and I was stupid for leaving without the armor on. I don't see doctors but I should be walking fine in a week or two.
Howard
1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? 150 St Tropez.
2. Was the crash due to rider error? Definately my fault. What time of day did it occur? Dusk, 1830pm
3. Could the crash have been avoided? Absolutely
4. Was the rider injured? Yes, road rash, bruised/sprained left foot.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy? Minor scratches to tour box and headlight cowling
6. Cost of repairs, if any? I haven't checked yet.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither? Yes, I am licensed
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course? No
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner? Yes
10. How fast was the rider going? About 25mph
11. How far was the rider from home? About 1 mile.
I posted this elsewhere, but I leaned too sharply into a left turn and my center stand hit the pavement and caused the buddy to shoot out from under me. My fault and I was stupid for leaving without the armor on. I don't see doctors but I should be walking fine in a week or two.
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This Buddy crash was shown on the news last night
http://www.wsmv.com/news/16424060/detail.html
I think I know who it was, but haven't gotten in touch with him yet to confirm. Hopefully he's OK, and I hope the driver gets found & prosecuted.
I think I know who it was, but haven't gotten in touch with him yet to confirm. Hopefully he's OK, and I hope the driver gets found & prosecuted.
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Re: This Buddy crash was shown on the news last night
Ugh. Buddy down! If you know the rider, let us know if he's okay or the extent of his injuries.bobloblaw wrote:http://www.wsmv.com/news/16424060/detail.html
I think I know who it was, but haven't gotten in touch with him yet to confirm. Hopefully he's OK, and I hope the driver gets found & prosecuted.
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- pugbuddy
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That's scary. The news reporter incorrectly identified the scoot as a Vespa in the video. Here's hoping the rider is ok though.
I'm definitely considering getting a FF helmet. It seems like it will be a lot better protection than my 3/4 and the occassional problem of wind moving the helmet around a little will be alleviated (if the wind is strong enough and hits my face shield, it "pushes" the helmet whenever I check traffic over my shoulder).Wearing a full-
face most definitely saved my classically-sculpted Greek god of a
face.
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- piceloni
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1. Which Buddy (50/125) was crashed? Color?
'07 125 Creme
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
Original Crash - Yes.
2nd Crash - No, caused by someone trying to help unknowingly grabbing the throttle. Poor guy, he felt so bad that he hurt me more than I already was.
12PM
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Yes, should have been going slower. It had been raining very heavily, but had finally stopped. I was trying to apply more brake pressure following instruction at MSF class earlier that day. The bike just came out from underneath me.
4. Was the rider injured?
Road rash and swelling on right knee, road rash on left elbow and hip, bruised tailbone, bruised left foot and twisted ankle. Injuries to tailbone and hip were due to secondary accident caused by good samaritan who tried to help, but unfortunately grabbed the throttle when I was pushing the bike off to the side off the street. My bike went down again, and so did I.
I was wearing helmet, gloves, rain gear, long sleeve shirt, jeans and motorcycle over the ankle BOOTS. My rain gear was destroyed, but there was no damage to my shirt or jeans. If not for the BOOTS, I suspect that my twisted ankle and bruised foot could have been something much worse.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Cracked chrome headlight bezel, cracked headlight cover, scrapes on right passenger foot pegs, exhaust and brake levers. I have to say I'm really impressed how my Buddy "Buffy" held up.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
Haven't checked yet, but I expect it will be minor to replace a few exterior parts.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
Permit, taking license test tomorrow.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
I was actually on my way home from the first day of the skills training, which I did awesome at. My second and final day is tomorrow, ending with taking my test for my M endorsement.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Yes
10. How fast was the rider going?
10-15MPH
11. How far was the rider from home?
~3 Miles
'07 125 Creme
2. Was the crash due to rider error? What time of day did it occur?
Original Crash - Yes.
2nd Crash - No, caused by someone trying to help unknowingly grabbing the throttle. Poor guy, he felt so bad that he hurt me more than I already was.
12PM
3. Could the crash have been avoided?
Yes, should have been going slower. It had been raining very heavily, but had finally stopped. I was trying to apply more brake pressure following instruction at MSF class earlier that day. The bike just came out from underneath me.
4. Was the rider injured?
Road rash and swelling on right knee, road rash on left elbow and hip, bruised tailbone, bruised left foot and twisted ankle. Injuries to tailbone and hip were due to secondary accident caused by good samaritan who tried to help, but unfortunately grabbed the throttle when I was pushing the bike off to the side off the street. My bike went down again, and so did I.
I was wearing helmet, gloves, rain gear, long sleeve shirt, jeans and motorcycle over the ankle BOOTS. My rain gear was destroyed, but there was no damage to my shirt or jeans. If not for the BOOTS, I suspect that my twisted ankle and bruised foot could have been something much worse.
5. What was the damage to the Buddy?
Cracked chrome headlight bezel, cracked headlight cover, scrapes on right passenger foot pegs, exhaust and brake levers. I have to say I'm really impressed how my Buddy "Buffy" held up.
6. Cost of repairs, if any?
Haven't checked yet, but I expect it will be minor to replace a few exterior parts.
7. Does the rider have a motorcycle permit, license or neither?
Permit, taking license test tomorrow.
8. Had the rider completed the MSF course?
I was actually on my way home from the first day of the skills training, which I did awesome at. My second and final day is tomorrow, ending with taking my test for my M endorsement.
9. Was the rider the scooter's owner?
Yes
10. How fast was the rider going?
10-15MPH
11. How far was the rider from home?
~3 Miles
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Oh no, that's the pits. Glad you're not hurt any worse than you are. I'm the worst offender when it comes to using the kill switch, but, after reading your story, I think I'm going to start making it a habit.piceloni wrote:...Injuries to tailbone and hip were due to secondary accident caused by good samaritan who tried to help, but unfortunately grabbed the throttle when I was pushing the bike off to the side off the street. My bike went down again, and so did I.
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hey piceloni,
your damages to your scooter are the exact damages i had when i fell a couple of weeks ago, total in all, to get the parts and stuff only came out to be no more then $100
im glad your ok and everybody that has fallen, i suppose you learn from your falls and it makes you more cautious the next time you get back on...
your damages to your scooter are the exact damages i had when i fell a couple of weeks ago, total in all, to get the parts and stuff only came out to be no more then $100
im glad your ok and everybody that has fallen, i suppose you learn from your falls and it makes you more cautious the next time you get back on...