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Advertising on Modern Buddy

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:26 pm
by jess
I'm experimenting around (as I have been on Modern Vespa) with some advertising. It's an experiment, and if it proves too intrusive, I'll pull it.

Besides paying for the hosting for MB and MV, this is primarily geared toward generating some revenue that we can use for promotions and shwag.

We now return to your regularly scheduled scooter experience.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:36 pm
by BuddyRaton
Hope you get some good advertisers with some cool stuff!

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:44 pm
by jess
Besides Teh Google, I've got one advertiser lined up and ready to advertise here. I don't have banner artwork for them yet, though, so Google will have to suffice for the moment.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:03 am
by vitaminC
I may be imagining it (or perhaps my computer is just old and tired), but it seems that the reload after posting is a bit slower now. Perhaps because it's fetching a new ad from somewhere?

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:42 am
by jess
vitaminC wrote:I may be imagining it (or perhaps my computer is just old and tired), but it seems that the reload after posting is a bit slower now. Perhaps because it's fetching a new ad from somewhere?
I would be willing to believe that page reloads across the board were slightly slower, due to pulling a new ad from Google's servers. However, I'd be surprised if it was only after posting.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:31 pm
by AxeYrCat
I don't find it bothersome at all, and if it's helping you pay the bills and keep the site alive, I'm all sorts of behind it!! :D

how does the advertising work?

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:02 pm
by jperkins
Jess Do you get the same amount of money for having the ads on the site even if we never click on them? If you get more money for the number of people who click on them, I am not opposed to helping out with the occasional click or two, just let us know.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:46 pm
by LeopardGirl
Jess Do you get the same amount of money for having the ads on the site even if we never click on them? If you get more money for the number of people who click on them, I am not opposed to helping out with the occasional click or two, just let us know.

I don't find it bothersome at all, and if it's helping you pay the bills and keep the site alive, I'm all sorts of behind it!!

Ditto and Ditto

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:21 am
by tam
You also might want to consider using the google adsense for posting 4 textlinks into one of those horizontal banners. It scans the page for keywords and displays relative ads. Some of the hits pay up to a dollar so it's a good option for sure. There's quite a few forums that display the ad between the first and the rest of the post. Fairly intrusive, but forgivable, considering it pays for the server. I have it set up that way on my site, but only for unregistereds. Members don't see the ads at all


--- d'oh, just realized that you have them already, at the bottom of the page..

Re: how does the advertising work?

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:47 am
by jess
jperkins wrote:Jess Do you get the same amount of money for having the ads on the site even if we never click on them? If you get more money for the number of people who click on them, I am not opposed to helping out with the occasional click or two, just let us know.
Google pays by the click. HOWEVER, before anyone goes click happy, Teh Google frowns on click fraud. Really, it's not worth it. If you see something that interests you, great. If not, don't sweat it. Modern Buddy won't generate very much revenue, but it doesn't take a lot to keep it running, either.

It's more of an experiment than anything else, anyway.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:49 am
by jess
tam wrote:d'oh, just realized that you have them already, at the bottom of the page..
:)

Unfortunately, Google AdSense is having a really hard time figuring out what we're talking about in this forum. Apparently, Buddy Miller ringtones is what we're really talking about here.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:22 pm
by lobsterman
I happen to be a big Buddy Miller fan. Seriously.

Not likely to buy a ringtone though.

Maybe we should all start mentioning the words "motor scooter" more, with lots of technical details about engines and counter steering and more stuff about helmets and ATGATT and Kevlar armor.

The ads do kind of illustrate what a poor naming choice "Buddy" is for our scooter. I know product naming is an art, and not easy for a number of reasons, but let's get real here for a minute. What were they thinking? Granted, it's better than BuBu.

Stella... kind of sexy in a retro way. Blur... connotes speed. Rattler... tough and biting. Black Cat... not sure on that one. But Buddy? What were they going for there?

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:41 pm
by polianarchy
lobsterman wrote:The ads do kind of illustrate what a poor naming choice "Buddy" is for our scooter. I know product naming is an art, and not easy for a number of reasons, but let's get real here for a minute. What were they thinking? Granted, it's better than BuBu.

Stella... kind of sexy in a retro way. Blur... connotes speed. Rattler... tough and biting. Black Cat... not sure on that one. But Buddy? What were they going for there?
Agreed, it's a HORRIBLE name for a vehicle that's meant for adults. I really really really (etc) wish they had named it the same as in Australia, Bella. The first thing I did when I got her home was rip off the two BUDDY 125 decals. :roll:

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:14 pm
by lobsterman
polianarchy wrote:Agreed, it's a HORRIBLE name for a vehicle that's meant for adults. I really really really (etc) wish they had named it the same as in Australia, Bella. The first thing I did when I got her home was rip off the two BUDDY 125 decals. :roll:
Bella... I could go with that - better than Buddy anyway.

I took the decals off too.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:35 pm
by weebl
Jess - I run a community website as had a similar problem with google ads not having any clue what my page was about. I've had a lot better luck with Project Wonderful than Google Ads... Project Wonderful is similar in that users bid for space, but you bit on specific spaces not specific words. We get about 3x the ad revenue from Project Wonderful compared to google.

the url is http://www.projectwonderful.com/ :)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:18 am
by jess
weebl wrote:Jess - I run a community website as had a similar problem with google ads not having any clue what my page was about. I've had a lot better luck with Project Wonderful than Google Ads... Project Wonderful is similar in that users bid for space, but you bit on specific spaces not specific words. We get about 3x the ad revenue from Project Wonderful compared to google.

the url is http://www.projectwonderful.com/ :)
Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:30 am
by BuddyRaton
lobsterman wrote: The ads do kind of illustrate what a poor naming choice "Buddy" is for our scooter. I know product naming is an art, and not easy for a number of reasons, but let's get real here for a minute. What were they thinking? Granted, it's better than BuBu.
?
I was on the Burgman forum a little while ago (yes, I have a 2007 650 Executive on order!). Some people dont like the name Burgman and would rather have the asian name Skywave. Same thing .."what were they thinking etc. That discussion kind of came to a dead stop when I posted that I ride a Buddy 125! :shock:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:30 pm
by Keys
...so just refer to it as a Genuine BD 125. Works for me!!

--Keys 8)

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:24 am
by ScooterDave
polianarchy wrote:Agreed, it's a HORRIBLE name for a vehicle that's meant for adults. I really really really (etc) wish they had named it the same as in Australia, Bella.
I am not sure how thay can call it that in Australia. I am sure the Zündapp owners are pissed.

Image

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:15 am
by lou76
Keys wrote:...so just refer to it as a Genuine BD 125. Works for me!!

--Keys 8)
i look forward to the day when "b125" is the common name... i seriously even prefer bubu to buddy...

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:21 am
by ellen
Hey, if Piaggio can get away with calling the Beverly in the states a "BV"
Why not B50 or B125 :)

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:23 pm
by vitaminC
Clicking on the SFSC ad (top right) gives me a new page and a 404 error. I'm using the latest Firefox. Of course, I already know where they are... :P

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:57 pm
by BuddyRaton
vitaminC wrote:Clicking on the SFSC ad (top right) gives me a new page and a 404 error. I'm using the latest Firefox. Of course, I already know where they are... :P
Happened to me too

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:52 pm
by jess
Okay, I must be stupid. Let me go fix that.

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:00 pm
by jess
Fixed. Sorry about that, folks. And apologies to Barry, too...