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80's style badge

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:02 pm
by JoshWED
So I've been talking to some guys over on scooter central (including Zac...who started this whole craze a few years ago).

There seems to be renewed interest in the 80's style badges:

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I wasn't able to get anyone to send me the original vector, but I created this guy today:

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I'm in the process of getting a quote from EmblemArt.com ... but if anyone else wants to seek bids, I'm more than willing to share the vector graphic.

Will keep you all posted.

Josh[/img]

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:05 pm
by az_slynch
Awesome! My buddy has a pair for his bike. They look great (IMHVLO) and they're far more robust than the stock script.

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:58 pm
by Lokky
I have a pair that I still have to put on my Stella but I might be in the market for more!

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:29 am
by JoshWED
hoarders! i'm convinced there's still a pile of the last run somewhere that would be a lot less grief than making more... :twisted:

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:01 am
by Maximus53
I would love to get a few of those!

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:37 am
by SockyTX
I' d buy 3!

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:43 am
by double-o-soul
I love the idea and I would be very interested as well but i think the vector could use some work.
don't mean to insult anyone here, but the typeface is incorrect. :-/ if you can't find the right one I would just take a large picture of the old one and trace a vector on top of it.

cheers mate,
Randy

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:17 am
by JoshWED
i purposefully changed some elements of the last one...what don't you like?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:35 am
by double-o-soul
ah if you're not going for exact duplication of the 80's vespa font then there's no problem at all.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:55 am
by JoshWED
i don't think the 1st "reproduction" nails it either. (not to mention there is no L or T to go off of).

Waiting on the quote...and will keep playing around until then.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:52 am
by pesce
Will these work for the cowels as well?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:19 pm
by Lokky
JoshWED wrote:i don't think the 1st "reproduction" nails it either. (not to mention there is no L or T to go off of).

Waiting on the quote...and will keep playing around until then.
The font primavera has all the letters done properly

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:58 pm
by JoshWED
The font primavera has all the letters done properly
:clap:

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:00 pm
by JoshWED
pesce wrote:Will these work for the cowels as well?
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:45 pm
by JoshWED
Quote is in.

Would be looking at somewhere between $7 and $11 per badge, based on the run size.

If there is continued interest in this (please vote in the poll above and leave comments below) I will set up a pay pal or visa payback type thing and move forward.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:08 pm
by Maximus53
JoshWED wrote:Quote is in.

Would be looking at somewhere between $7 and $11 per badge, based on the run size.

If there is continued interest in this (please vote in the poll above and leave comments below) I will set up a pay pal or visa payback type thing and move forward.
3 for me!

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:34 pm
by Bcon
I'm in for three.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:51 pm
by JoshWED
Lokky wrote:
JoshWED wrote:i don't think the 1st "reproduction" nails it either. (not to mention there is no L or T to go off of).

Waiting on the quote...and will keep playing around until then.
The font primavera has all the letters done properly
With Lokky's help, here's the latest draft:

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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:17 pm
by double-o-soul
that looks awesome!
if i had to knitpick, there's only three little things that could use some work:
1. the terminal (tops piece) on the lower case a should come out a bit more, you could also try slightly enlarging the counter (negative space).
2. the serif's on the lower case l's still seem a bit vertically fat. you could try reducing them and reducing the curvature between them and the stem (main section of the letter)
3. the terminal (little tail) on the lower case t is scrunched in a bit too much. You could re-extend the cross stroke like you had in your first attempt and stretch the terminal back out to meet it vertically.

props bro! its looking good.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:18 pm
by Tom
What will they be made of? I'd be in for three if they aren't chromed plastic.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:03 am
by ericalm
I might be in for some. I have a couple of the old ones!
double-o-soul wrote:that looks awesome!
if i had to knitpick, there's only three little things that could use some work:
1. the terminal (tops piece) on the lower case a should come out a bit more, you could also try slightly enlarging the counter (negative space).
2. the serif's on the lower case l's still seem a bit vertically fat. you could try reducing them and reducing the curvature between them and the stem (main section of the letter)
3. the terminal (little tail) on the lower case t is scrunched in a bit too much. You could re-extend the cross stroke like you had in your first attempt and stretch the terminal back out to meet it vertically.

props bro! its looking good.
+1

Primavera is probably not the best place to start—it's an attempt to build an entire typeface out of the letters in "vespa." Starting with a professional, better balanced face might be better because all the "t" and "l" are much better and the "s" and "a" are pretty close.

Check out Volta or Clarendon:
http://www.fontshop.com/fonts/singles/u ... ld_ot_std/

http://www.fontshop.com/fonts/downloads ... _expanded/

(I should have versions of these somewhere…)

The actual "Vespa" serif logo may be based in a typeface, but I haven't found an exact match. It's probably custom type. I can't imagine someone designing a "p" that goofy for anything else. :)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:07 pm
by Tack One.
I'd like one!

my stella has the chrome on chrome cowels so I think I'd just put it on the front.


I'll check back here for more info, or PM me with details please.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:21 pm
by jmer1234
+1 to Clarendon. A little more extended/stretched. Better balanced, I think.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:28 am
by JohnKiniston
I've got a set of the ones StellaSpeed made a while back, I could lend you them or take pictures if it'd help any.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:54 am
by az_slynch
Any word on this? Still very interested. Been compiling a Stella build plan from spare parts at the club garage...

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:57 pm
by DCUNITED4LIFE
This is one of those instances when my mom said "if you can't say anything nice"......that being said a girl in my club has some and she loves them.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:56 pm
by Lokky
DCUNITED4LIFE wrote:This is one of those instances when my mom said "if you can't say anything nice"
That's funny, I remember someone taking 15 minutes to start his vintage P this past Sunday :P

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:02 pm
by az_slynch
Lokky wrote:
DCUNITED4LIFE wrote:This is one of those instances when my mom said "if you can't say anything nice"
That's funny, I remember someone taking 15 minutes to start his vintage P this past Sunday :P
Fifteen minutes? was he trying to start it by hand? :shock:

Wow, I'm surprised if it takes more than three kicks to start on a cold morning. Two on a warm morning and one once the bike has been run. It's a Ducati CDI ignition; points went away on the P series.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:06 pm
by JohnKiniston
The gas could have been off, or the Ignition or Kill switch, or maybe the wiring fell apart and he lost spark.

Maybe his kicker fell off and he was trying to bump start it?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:13 pm
by az_slynch
JohnKiniston wrote:The gas could have been off, or the Ignition or Kill switch, or maybe the wiring fell apart and he lost spark.

Maybe his kicker fell off and he was trying to bump start it?
Oh, a wiseguy!

Remind me the next time my bike acts up to drop it off at my buddy's place and let him deal with it. :wink:

Note: My kicker did snap off while leaving work one night. Bump started it within two tries.

The green "kill" wire to the CDI has failed before too, but I disconnected it to get by and repaired it before the next big ride. About 35% of that wire is now new. :lol:

EDIT: In response to the jab below, I expected the eventual failure of the OEM plug boot and had a brand-new NGK boot in the glovebox and swapped it out roadside in under five minutes. :D

Ride vintage, plan on crap breaking, carry spares and worry less! :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:53 pm
by JohnKiniston
I'm just detailing the failure modes of the P-Series as I have seen them in person. :P

Forgot a failed spark-plug boot in the list.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:20 pm
by DCUNITED4LIFE
Lokky wrote:
DCUNITED4LIFE wrote:This is one of those instances when my mom said "if you can't say anything nice"
That's funny, I remember someone taking 15 minutes to start his vintage P this past Sunday :P
True, but you've seen the pics on FB. The oil injection lines were installed incorrectly or came loose, hence serious issues with fuel delivery. Let's not get confused either, mechanically, a Stella is virtually a PX. I'm just saying I don't care for the Stella badge in Vespa typeface. Keep it up Italian....I'll be raging hard at the Vintage rally this weekend while you'll be grading papers in your speedo! :P

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:32 pm
by DCUNITED4LIFE
JohnKiniston wrote:The gas could have been off, or the Ignition or Kill switch, or maybe the wiring fell apart and he lost spark.

Maybe his kicker fell off and he was trying to bump start it?
Nah, I just rebuilt the bike and fuel delivery is still an issue. The thing floods all the time. Not work that I performed because I don't have the wrench for the fuel tap which was replaced for a euro style one. Lokky will be sorry when I have to save his ass on the side of the road when he experiences a breakdown and I go all MacGyver on his Stella.....shit, I already pulled all the front disk parts off his wrecked bike to do a conversion on mine. I helped rescue him that time, also found a friend with a trailer for when we were out riding and we BOTH almost went down in some camouflage gravel and he ended up wiping out, and most of all, he seems to forget how I've upped his lady game in this town by 500%. That's a true statistic as well. He also neglected to mention my P was a $600 basket case left outside to die for 15+ years after being asspolded by the PO. In 2-3 months I rebuilt the engine and have sorted most of the issues with it. http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic102160 when it's not flooded or the plug isn't fouled from running 3-4% oil on a new cylinder, it's a 2 kick bike. I'll see you at scoot club tonight Lokky....oh yes, I will see you!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:56 am
by az_slynch
Any news on this? Still very interested.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:48 pm
by PressureDrop
Glad to see someone giving this a go again. I got pretty burned out on stuff like this, but not everyone does!

FWIW, *I* did not start these the last 2 times around (from StellaSpeedForums) but it was mintwood :)
(that thread ended up 15 pages long, then there were a few more threads on the follow up rounds! heh)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:46 pm
by ryanhennessy
Put me down for 3

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:35 pm
by PressureDrop
who is this with a few extra? http://www.ebay.com/itm/150938254287

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:52 pm
by ericalm
PressureDrop wrote:who is this with a few extra? http://www.ebay.com/itm/150938254287
Looks like it's Bosco. He used to be a dealer. Scooter dealer, that is.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:08 pm
by belopsky
reviving an old thread, but anyone have one of these?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:31 pm
by BigDaddy SnakeOiler
belopsky wrote:reviving an old thread, but anyone have one of these?
Contact Anthony at Ithica Scooters. I got one off of him this summer.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:35 pm
by BigDaddy SnakeOiler