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squeak and rattle

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:00 pm
by jeffdowdy
I ride my Stella Auto to and from work everyday. On the way home today it began to make a squeaking noise and felt like it was rattling, seemingly from the front tire area. I couldn't exactly locate where it was coming from. When I stopped I couldn't recreate the rattle noise. I went at a slow pace to get home and the engine was unaffected.

Probably unrelated, but I seem to have shook loose the screw along the right side of the wheel cover.

Sorry, I lack technical terminology. Grateful for any input.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:52 pm
by milly
Can you take pic of said area might spark some idea's

video of sounds

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:41 pm
by jeffdowdy
Here's a link to video where you can hear the sound: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZZkmguGvc8Nyx4YL9

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:27 pm
by Stanza
Check the allen head bolts that hold the brake disk on. They have a tendency to loosen up on the Stella if they are installed without threadlocker. This would make the heads of the bolts scrape/squeak against the caliper, and the disk itself could be rattling around.

pic of rattle

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:29 am
by jeffdowdy
Image

Thanks @stanza for the tip. I will check them out immediately to see if that is the issue. I will update with results.

In the image you can see where a screw is missing.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:51 pm
by Mr.FixIt
A little Blue Loctite won't hurt. Clean the brake dust out of the hole first with some brake cleaner and a cotton swab (or a handful of them).

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:40 pm
by 2003stellaDave
That missing screw fastens the fender to the fork. There are three bolts at the top of the fender and one on the side. The screw/bolt missing is the one on the side.

You’ll need a small bolt, a couple of washers and a lock washer.

no such luck

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:43 pm
by jeffdowdy
I checked and they weren't loose.

I can only re-create the sound at higher speeds and then once the squeaking and rattling/knocking starts it will continue somewhat as I slow down. The brake seems unaffected.

Clearly a novice and would appreciate any help.

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:44 am
by milly
On this phone it sounds like something slapping about on it but not as a regular beat more like odd times loose cable I really can't tell, sorry I cant be more helpful. One other thing have pulled, pushed and twisted everything on front end see if nothing is free to move about at speed.

reattached fender

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:42 pm
by jeffdowdy
I discovered the source (I believe).

The coils on the suspension are rubbing against the fender... or at least that is part of the sound. I tried reattaching the fender to the suspension but it was too tight and only made it worse. I need a way to attach it and I assume there was some sort of bushing/spacer to create some separation between the suspension and fender.

If anyone could share a picture of how it's attached or a link to the part, that would be very helpful.

Thanks. [/quote]

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:45 pm
by 2003stellaDave
Any hardware store should be able to help you out. There’s no spacer. If it’s too close you could try using a washer.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:49 pm
by 2003stellaDave
There’s not much of a gap.

replaced screw - still squeaks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:01 pm
by jeffdowdy
To fully get a feel for the sound, I uploaded a video:

https://youtu.be/-ugACQq6VNs

I cannot recreate the sound. It happened today only after a few minutes of riding and even then, once it stopped, it did not automatically start back up.

Thank you for your patience.

Jeff

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:44 pm
by Stanza
It almost sounds like a pivot squeak, like the suspension linkage itself it squeaking. Honestly have never heard that before though.

pivot squeak

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:11 pm
by jeffdowdy
Stanza,

If I understand, it makes sense that it would have to do with the suspension. But what is a pivot squeak?

Also, thank you for the pictures, 2003stellaDave. I just wish I could see the very top of the underside of the fender to compare.

Jeff