Stebel Magnum horn easy to install on a 2007 Buddy 125...

Drumwoulf · Post by **Drumwoulf** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:01 pm

1} Remove front legshield cover. One screw in front center, two in back on tops of corners, does it!

2} Remove wire clips from old horn. Remove old horn by unscrewing bracket bolt. (10mm socket handles it.)

3} Remove flat bracket from old horn and save it to use on the Magnum.

4} Take the plastic back cover off the Magnum, and install the Magnum on the stock bracket. Then install horn and bracket in original stock horn's spot. If you place the bell of the Magnum facing down and to the left a bit, the front legshield cover will fit right back over it w/o any problem.

And that's it, you're done! And you now have a much louder horn on your '07...!

Note: I did not install any sort of relay with this horn as several Buddy dealers have told me that it's not neccessary with the Magnum, but only with the Nautilus Air Horn which has a compressor. This Magnum now also comes stock on the 2008 125 Buddys and while it's not as loud as the bigger Nautilus Air Horn on the 150cc Buds, IMO the ease of installation more than makes up for this! And hey, this sucka is still plenty LOUD!!!

Racenut · Post by **Racenut** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:15 pm

Yeah, I was checking out the horn wiring on my wife's new Buddy yesterday while I was hooking up the dead lights. Doesn't appear to be any sort of relay for the horn. And yeah, it will get your attention. I'm going to get one for the Blur fur sure

Post by **illnoise** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:21 pm

I installed the nautilus compact (louder one, with relay) in my Blur over the weekend, it was pretty simple, the only real difficulty was feeding the wire through the frame, but I was kinda drunk while I was trying to do that, and too lazy to get a coathanger from the house. You do need a decent set of tools (sockets, electrical odds and ends, a drill) but it's not difficult at all.

Nathaniel's instructions are very detailed and worked great.

It is sooooo loud. It's awesome.

Bb.

Jessica · Post by **Jessica** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:22 pm

Is it possible to get a picture of the way you've got it positioned? I just ordered the Stebel Magnum today for my 07 Buddy 50.

djelliott · Post by **djelliott** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:54 pm

illnoise wrote:I was kinda drunk while I was trying to do that, and too lazy to get a coathanger from the house.

I have a very similar garage work ethic. Miller High Life is the first tool I usually reach for

.

Dustin

Post by **jmazza** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:09 pm

Drumwoulf wrote: If you place the bell of the Magnum facing down and to the left a bit, the front legshield cover will fit right back over it w/o any problem.

My experience with trying this was that the bell of the horn touched the front legshield cover which significantly alters the sound of the horn (quieter and kind of buzzy).

YMMV, but I had to find an alternate spot for the horn and used the original bracket ziptied to a different place on the frame.

Post by **illnoise** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:16 pm

djelliott wrote:
illnoise wrote:I was kinda drunk while I was trying to do that, and too lazy to get a coathanger from the house.
I have a very similar garage work ethic. Miller High Life is the first tool I usually reach for :D .

Dustin

Oh, it wasn't like that at all. It was 1AM and I'd just ridden my Vespa home from the bar, but I couldn't find my official scooter-fixing coathanger, and i didn't want to wake up my wife or daughter to get a hanger from one of the bedrooms.

Now that I look at it typed out, that sounds pretty irresponsible.

Bb.

Drumwoulf · Post by **Drumwoulf** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:56 pm

jmazza wrote:
Drumwoulf wrote: If you place the bell of the Magnum facing down and to the left a bit, the front legshield cover will fit right back over it w/o any problem.

My experience with trying this was that the bell of the horn touched the front legshield cover which significantly alters the sound of the horn (quieter and kind of buzzy).

YMMV, but I had to find an alternate spot for the horn and used the original bracket ziptied to a different place on the frame.

Did you remove the uneccessary back plastic cover from the horn? If not, maybe that made it stick out too far? Also I reused the flat bracket metal strip that was on the old horn, as the new ones that came with the Magnum looked a bit longer...

Anyway, I had no such problem, just put the bell face down and to the left a bit and reinstalled the cover. Sounds loud and great!

Drumwoulf · Post by **Drumwoulf** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:58 pm

illnoise wrote:
djelliott wrote:
illnoise wrote:I was kinda drunk while I was trying to do that, and too lazy to get a coathanger from the house.
I have a very similar garage work ethic. Miller High Life is the first tool I usually reach for .

Dustin
Oh, it wasn't like that at all. It was 1AM and I'd just ridden my Vespa home from the bar, but I couldn't find my official scooter-fixing coathanger, and i didn't want to wake up my wife or daughter to get a hanger from one of the bedrooms.

Now that I look at it typed out, that sounds pretty irresponsible.
Bb.

Especially to your wife and daughter? Find a bar you can walk to...

eldoroddo · Post by **eldoroddo** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:05 pm

djelliott wrote:
illnoise wrote:I was kinda drunk while I was trying to do that, and too lazy to get a coathanger from the house.
I have a very similar garage work ethic. Miller High Life is the first tool I usually reach for .

Dustin

100 Proof Southern Comfort and Diet Coke.

Post by **jmazza** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:53 pm

Drumwoulf wrote:
jmazza wrote:
Drumwoulf wrote: If you place the bell of the Magnum facing down and to the left a bit, the front legshield cover will fit right back over it w/o any problem.

My experience with trying this was that the bell of the horn touched the front legshield cover which significantly alters the sound of the horn (quieter and kind of buzzy).

YMMV, but I had to find an alternate spot for the horn and used the original bracket ziptied to a different place on the frame.
Did you remove the uneccessary back plastic cover from the horn? If not, maybe that made it stick out too far? Also I reused the flat bracket metal strip that was on the old horn, as the new ones that came with the Magnum looked a bit longer...
Anyway, I had no such problem, just put the bell face down and to the left a bit and reinstalled the cover. Sounds loud and great!

Yup I did both. I may not have messed with it enough to find the perfect position for the bell but it seemed like every way I turned it, it was touching the front cover and reducing the power.

Which one do you have in there? Low or Hi tone?

I bought both, started with the low but now use the hi.

Drumwoulf · Post by **Drumwoulf** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:57 pm

jmazza wrote:
Drumwoulf wrote:
jmazza wrote: My experience with trying this was that the bell of the horn touched the front legshield cover which significantly alters the sound of the horn (quieter and kind of buzzy).

YMMV, but I had to find an alternate spot for the horn and used the original bracket ziptied to a different place on the frame.
Did you remove the uneccessary back plastic cover from the horn? If not, maybe that made it stick out too far? Also I reused the flat bracket metal strip that was on the old horn, as the new ones that came with the Magnum looked a bit longer...
Anyway, I had no such problem, just put the bell face down and to the left a bit and reinstalled the cover. Sounds loud and great!
Yup I did both. I may not have messed with it enough to find the perfect position for the bell but it seemed like every way I turned it, it was touching the front cover and reducing the power.

Which one do you have in there? Low or Hi tone?

I bought both, started with the low but now use the hi.

Low. It's waht got mailed to me from Scooterworks. Do you like the high better?

Post by **jmazza** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:00 pm

Drumwoulf wrote:
jmazza wrote:
Which one do you have in there? Low or Hi tone?

I bought both, started with the low but now use the hi.
Low. It's waht got mailed to me from Scooterworks. Do you like the high better?

I don't think I have a serious preference. I started with the low but I think the hi might be a bit more noticeable. Now that I've ridden with the hi for a while I was thinking of swapping out back to the low and getting a feel for how people respond.

Jessica · Post by **Jessica** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:16 pm

I installed the Stebel Magnum today on my Buddy 50. It was very easy to do. I have the hi tone and it sounds very much like a car horn. Here's a picture of how I had to position it to get the front panel back on:

un_designer · Post by **un_designer** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:42 pm

jmazza do you have a way of recording sound and posting it as an mp3 file? it would be cool to hear the differences between the low and hi tones. thx.

Lil Buddy · Post by **Lil Buddy** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:48 am

un_designer wrote:jmazza do you have a way of recording sound and posting it as an mp3 file? it would be cool to hear the differences between the low and hi tones. thx.

The stebel website has sound clips:
http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2006.htm

BTW Jessica.....I reconize that running light adapter

italiaguy · Post by **italiaguy** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:33 am

You know... I heard these horns are really loud. In fact a friend of my cousin's friend's brother once dropped his cell phone out the car window when a scooter rider beeped his horn. Scared him to death it was soooo loud. Then someone ran over that phone and crushed it into a million pieces – right there on the road. Damn scooter riders!

Jessica · Post by **Jessica** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:37 am

Lil Buddy wrote: BTW Jessica.....I reconize that running light adapter

Yep, works GREAT! I ended up tapping into the orange horn wire. I looked for the solid yellow wire, found TWO solid yellow wires running side by side, got confused and said...ok, let's try orange. No problems there. I feel much more visible in the dark.

Drumwoulf · Post by **Drumwoulf** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:49 pm

italiaguy wrote:You know... I heard these horns are really loud. In fact a friend of my cousin's friend's brother once dropped his cell phone out the car window when a scooter rider beeped his horn. Scared him to death it was soooo loud. Then someone ran over that phone and crushed it into a million pieces – right there on the road. Damn scooter riders!

That's the bigger Stebel air horn. The Magnum won't scare anyone, it just sounds like a fairly loud car horn...

Drumwoulf · Post by **Drumwoulf** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:50 pm

Jessica wrote:I installed the Stebel Magnum today on my Buddy 50. It was very easy to do. I have the hi tone and it sounds very much like a car horn. Here's a picture of how I had to position it to get the front panel back on:

See, it is possible to get a picture...

That's exactly where I installed mine too, and it works fine...

Drumwoulf · Post by **Drumwoulf** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:57 pm

Lil Buddy wrote:
un_designer wrote:jmazza do you have a way of recording sound and posting it as an mp3 file? it would be cool to hear the differences between the low and hi tones. thx.
The stebel website has sound clips:
http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2006.htm

Yeah, except the damn fools put the SAME sound on both horn sound clips!

etak · Post by **etak** » Sun May 10, 2009 1:42 am

Help! I tried to install a stebel magnum horn (TM80) in my '07 Buddy.

First, there was no way that I could see to fit it where the old horn was without it touching the front panel - I mean, no way to do just a switch.

Second, when I put the old horn back in, it didn't work! If I pushed hard on one part of it, it would work. Otherwise it just kind of clicked.

So now I have no horn at all.

I don't know if this is helpful, but here's a picture with the old horn in place, and a picture of the stebel magnum.

etak · Post by **etak** » Sun May 10, 2009 5:17 pm

Anyone have any suggestions?

Post by **jmazza** » Sun May 10, 2009 7:11 pm

I need to get inside mine and take a pic but I know that i ended up first not using that little plastic cover piece and then i just zip tied it to something on the inside- not bolted to an actual mounting bracket at all. It just took some figuring and a couple tries.

etak · Post by **etak** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:41 pm

thanks. a picture would be great.

Beamster · Post by **Beamster** » Mon May 11, 2009 4:29 am

Did you find it loud?

Bikewebworld wasn't too impressed:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle- ... el-magnum/

Post by **jmazza** » Mon May 11, 2009 5:01 am

I'll get you one tomorrow etak. And yes, it's a pretty loud horn. It's no stebel nautilus but I have never had a cager miss it yet. A definite no-brainer improvement over the stock horn.

Post by **jmazza** » Mon May 11, 2009 7:22 pm

Pics of how I have it installed. Like I said, it still requires some moving around to make sure it doesn't hit the legshield but I've had it in there for quite a while with no movement. The zip tie is pretty tight.

General placement:

Detail:

Hope this helps!

gearhead · Post by **gearhead** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:44 am

thanks for the pics!

etak · Post by **etak** » Tue May 12, 2009 2:01 am

Thanks a lot, Joe. I'll give this a try.

Post by **jmazza** » Tue May 12, 2009 3:12 am

No problem- you might not be able to tell but I took the mounting bracket provided and bent it into roughly an "S" shape to make that work. Look closely and you'll see what I mean!

OScoot! · Post by **OScoot!** » Sun May 24, 2009 11:33 am

jmazza wrote:Pics of how I have it installed. Like I said, it still requires some moving around to make sure it doesn't hit the legshield but I've had it in there for quite a while with no movement. The zip tie is pretty tight.

Hmmm....interesting how my Buddy looks a little different from this. Oh well, I installed mine back in the same location where the original horn was placed, but tilted the holding bracket into a position at about 11:00 or so.

Now, what's the problem with the horn touching the legshield? And by legshield are you talking about the front piece of plastic that you took off to get to the horn? If not....then I can't see how in the world it could ever touch the back side......the part where the ignition is inserted.

Mine seems to work fine, so I'm curious as to what I'm missing here. I'm pretty sure that my horn touches the front buddy plastic cover.

Modern Buddy

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