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So, its happened. I've gone off the deep end.

I got a incredible deal on this:

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Yes, that is infact the engine from a 2007 Vespa GTS 250.
Yes, it is infact going to go into my Buddy.

I'll have the world's first Voodoo Buddy GTS 250.
Stay tuned for more info and pictures when the motor shows up in a few days. :)
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Ahhh your a sick little scooter boy!


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Where's your Buddy motor gonna go???
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nissanman wrote:Where's you Buddy motor gonna go???
Not sure yet. You interested in it?
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I'm excited for this! We Oregonians are crazy;)
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that is totaly insane! :twisted:

I'm sure many of us will be following this closely, just don't hurt yourself too badly when you've got it all hooked up :lol:
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jasondavis48108 wrote:that is totaly insane! :twisted:

I'm sure many of us will be following this closely, just don't hurt yourself too badly when you've got it all hooked up :lol:
Heh, I don't PLAN on hurting myself at all :P
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Kaos wrote:
jasondavis48108 wrote:that is totaly insane! :twisted:

I'm sure many of us will be following this closely, just don't hurt yourself too badly when you've got it all hooked up :lol:
Heh, I don't PLAN on hurting myself at all :P
well you know what they say, the road to hell is paved with modifications :lol:
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I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.
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jijifer wrote:I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.
I can understand that with the 10" wheels, but why the plastics? There's plenty of bikes FAR more powerful than that that are plastic. Like the 900+cc street bikes for example.
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I don't know, I think as long as you can get tires rated for the higher speed you'll be fine. I would guess that stock, the engine wouldn't go much faster than your already clocked 88mph.
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jasondavis48108 wrote:I don't know, I think as long as you can get tires rated for the higher speed you'll be fine. I would guess that stock, the engine wouldn't go much faster than your already clocked 88mph.
Well, official top speed of a GTS is 80mph. The Buddy is a LOT lighter though.
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Kaos wrote:
jasondavis48108 wrote:I don't know, I think as long as you can get tires rated for the higher speed you'll be fine. I would guess that stock, the engine wouldn't go much faster than your already clocked 88mph.
Well, official top speed of a GTS is 80mph. The Buddy is a LOT lighter though.
Yeah, that's true. What are you figuring the top speed will be with this build, any ideas? I'm assuming that you're shooting for triple digits so long as you can find some tires that will hold up to those speeds.
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I am excited to watch this happen. Lots of work ahead.
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Kaos wrote:
jijifer wrote:I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.
I can understand that with the 10" wheels, but why the plastics? There's plenty of bikes FAR more powerful than that that are plastic. Like the 900+cc street bikes for example.
I just wonder if these plastics are good for that torque. Are those other bikes held together with little tabs far and few between? how much more torque does that have? it's top speed is pulling something that weighs 150lbs more. so it'll be way faster in such a light frame. I just wonder if that light frame can really support the torque. We see how much vibration the buddy gets with just 161cc - it's shaking pipes loose!
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You're crazy Kaos. Don't ever change :)

I can't wait to read the reports. I have to admit though, I am also curious to see if the frame can handle that much VooDoo.
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jasondavis48108 wrote:
well you know what they say, the road to hell is paved with modifications :lol:
LOL!!!

This is gonna be good!
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You just love raising the bar!!!! Impossible to keep up with you Mr. Jones!
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bigbropgo wrote:I am excited to watch this happen. Lots of work ahead.
I'd guess its going to be able to hit triple digits, and yes I'm gonna try if I can find tires that'll do it :)
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jijifer wrote:
Kaos wrote:
jijifer wrote:I don't think the plastics of a buddy nor the 10" wheels are a good idea with an engine that size.
I can understand that with the 10" wheels, but why the plastics? There's plenty of bikes FAR more powerful than that that are plastic. Like the 900+cc street bikes for example.
I just wonder if these plastics are good for that torque. Are those other bikes held together with little tabs far and few between? how much more torque does that have? it's top speed is pulling something that weighs 150lbs more. so it'll be way faster in such a light frame. I just wonder if that light frame can really support the torque. We see how much vibration the buddy gets with just 161cc - it's shaking pipes loose!
The front fairing on my friend's GSX-R is held on almost exactly like the Buddy's so I THINK it'll be ok.

The GTS is rated at 25HP at 16.2FT/LBS torque, vs a STOCK 125's 9.5HP (no idea what the torque is)
So I may have to do some frame reenforcement. We'll see once I start getting things installed.
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Yea no worries Kaos the frame will hold up just fine under that motor. However I wonder if the wheel splines line up from the buddy. Are all the electronics and radiator included in the sale?
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NASRA wrote:Yea no worries Kaos the frame will hold up just fine under that motor. However I wonder if the wheel splines line up from the buddy. Are all the electronics and radiator included in the sale?
I'm not yet sure about the wheel splines, I'm hoping as I'd like to keep the 10" wheel. The full wiring harness, electronics, and radiator are included, so I just need to get a pipe, and maybe a wheel.
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Are the buddy motors top or bottom mount?
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NASRA wrote:Are the buddy motors top or bottom mount?
Buddy is top mount I *THINK*, the GTS motor is bottom mount, so definitely some fab work there to install it.
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Maybe ask if you can have the stock motor mount?
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NASRA wrote:Maybe ask if you can have the stock motor mount?
I'm hoping they'll let me have it, I asked but the owner is outa town till Monday, so we'll see what they say. It'd make things easier for sure.
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K,
Cannot wait to see the results.
Get crackin on this project, what are you sitting around this forum for????
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Great project! I am anxious to start seeing pictures. Worlds fastest Buddy, w00t!

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monamibuddy wrote:K,
Cannot wait to see the results.
Get crackin on this project, what are you sitting around this forum for????
Still waiting for all the parts to get here. And I had to order the engine mount as the person I ordered the engine from didn't have one.
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Kaos wrote:
monamibuddy wrote:K,
Cannot wait to see the results.
Get crackin on this project, what are you sitting around this forum for????
Still waiting for all the parts to get here. And I had to order the engine mount as the person I ordered the engine from didn't have one.
You have an answer for everything don't cha? :D
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Post by rajron »

Kaos;

I thought you might want to see this: http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic32797
It’s a small Vespa with a big motor.

How is your project coming along?
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rajron wrote:Kaos;

I thought you might want to see this: http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic32797
It’s a small Vespa with a big motor.

How is your project coming along?
Awesome find! I just got a call from my shipper saying my engine is on the way. I'm on pins and needles! :D
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There's fantastic info in that post about using the LX final drive assembly to put the 10" wheel on :)
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Something occurred to me... where are you going to stuff the radiator so that it gets air?
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Lostmycage wrote:Something occurred to me... where are you going to stuff the radiator so that it gets air?
I've got two thoughts on that. I've got the oil cooler bracket kicking around from a 150, so I may mount it underneath the body where the oil cooler would be. The other option is to run it all the way to the front and install it under the front plastics.
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Are you keeping your buddy orange or are you planning to paint it. I know it is a little off topic:)
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Mr Miller wrote:Are you keeping your buddy orange or are you planning to paint it. I know it is a little off topic:)
I like the orange. Quite a few of my vehicles over the years have been that color, I'm gonna keep it.
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Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)
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Mr Miller wrote:Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)
Yeah, that would be a pain :P
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Kaos wrote:
Mr Miller wrote:Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)
Yeah, that would be a pain :P
you should get that as a tattoo
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BootScootin'FireFighter wrote:
Kaos wrote:
Mr Miller wrote:Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)
Yeah, that would be a pain :P
you should get that as a tattoo
It could end up being a real pain in the ass... but I don't think I want to know if it does.
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Lostmycage wrote:
BootScootin'FireFighter wrote:
Kaos wrote:
Mr Miller wrote:Yeah orange is a great color, plus you wouldn't want to have to change your avatar;)
Yeah, that would be a pain :P
you should get that as a tattoo
It could end up being a real pain in the ass... but I don't think I want to know if it does.
Yeah, no tukus tattooing for me. I'll stick to the Voodoo Buddy patch on my Jacket.
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Woo! Just got notification my engine will be here TOMORROW! :)
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Just another thought...

Is it going to be too much torque for the Buddy's transmission and gear box?
Probably not but I was just wondering.
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Tocsik wrote:Just another thought...

Is it going to be too much torque for the Buddy's transmission and gear box?
Probably not but I was just wondering.
The buddy's transmission is part of the motor, so that goes out the door with the 161, to be replaced by the 250's trans.
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Uh, yep. I'm an idiot. :oops:
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Kaos wrote:Woo! Just got notification my engine will be here TOMORROW! :)
I met you in the spring. You seemed pretty normal. But you really are nuts, aren't you?

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Syd wrote:
Kaos wrote:Woo! Just got notification my engine will be here TOMORROW! :)
I met you in the spring. You seemed pretty normal. But you really are nuts, aren't you?

:wink:
I'm really good at that whole 'blending in' thing. Ask my wife, I'm two bolts short of batty with my vehicles(And most other things...) You should see my Drag strip certified pro street 1970 Plymouth 9 passenger station wagon ;)
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No sh!t Kaos, I went to the store yesterday & found a skull chrome tire valve cap in the parkinglot , which I wasn't aware was so common. Thought of you & the voodoo before I realized your way beyond that! GO FAST
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