Under-Scoot Lights [no more ambiguous topic name]
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Under-Scoot Lights [no more ambiguous topic name]
Just so happens I got the lights I ordered, so, since I didn't have anything BETTER to do on
Valentine's Day, me & the Bud spent a little quality time. I got 'em a present (well really it's
for me, don't tell). The weather was a mess, so I brought him inside and hooked them up
when I got home from work...
a couple hours, a handful of zip ties, and a few grey hairs later, here's the result:
The lights look kind of red in the photos, but I can assure you they are very orange. Except
the one on the rear mudflap, it's a red brake light.
Valentine's Day, me & the Bud spent a little quality time. I got 'em a present (well really it's
for me, don't tell). The weather was a mess, so I brought him inside and hooked them up
when I got home from work...
a couple hours, a handful of zip ties, and a few grey hairs later, here's the result:
The lights look kind of red in the photos, but I can assure you they are very orange. Except
the one on the rear mudflap, it's a red brake light.
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Um, the under-lights as well as my amber running lights are hooked to the wires that go from the battery to the 12V outlet.UnionZac wrote:what are they running off of, power wise?
The wires are also separately hooked up to a switch that is mounted under the outlet... So they are not automatically
running during the day unless I turn them on.
It was a little tricky, but I really just ran them along the frame, the right side of the scoot already has wires running to the backpolianarchy wrote:SWEEEEEEEEET, KRUSTYburger! How did you ziptie these suckas in place? Or, more precisely, WHERE? I want to add pink running lights, heh.
which are held against the frame with adjustable clips. You can see in one of the top photos the lights in the back fit perfectly
between the frame bar and gas tank. Unfortunately for you they don't have pink, but there is red. I ordered them from
SuperBrightLEDS.com. This isn't the first time I've bought from them, they are a good business... Here's a link to the exact item I bought.
As you can see orange is the cheapest and other colors have different prices, which is weird, but they are still a good deal
in my opinion. I bought 3 strands and a handful of mounting brackets (I didn't use ANY of the brackets).
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Very cool. I'm surprised someone out here in California hasn't done that...but now that you've broken the ice...I'm sure someone will!KRUSTYburger wrote:so nobody likes my pimpin' lights huh?
oh well, I do and I guess that's all that counts... Now I can wear my sunglasses at night...
Well done, and I like it!
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KRUSTYburger: Good job!
FWIW, it's illegal in CA. I have seen a couple people with similar kits or technically illegal lighting, and they've said they've never been pulled over.mattgordon wrote:Very cool. I'm surprised someone out here in California hasn't done that...but now that you've broken the ice...I'm sure someone will!KRUSTYburger wrote:so nobody likes my pimpin' lights huh?
oh well, I do and I guess that's all that counts... Now I can wear my sunglasses at night...
Well done, and I like it!
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Probably looks something like this:KRUSTYburger wrote:I have ridden with it on past cops and they haven't done anything... and for an added bonus, while they're
contemplating whether the lights are legal, they pay no attention to the fact that I'm speeding!
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I see my link is broken, ah well... they come in strands of 24 LEDs (9.25 inches long) and 96 LEDs (38 inches long).bigbropgo wrote:i noticed when you buy these lights they come in like 10-12 lights per unit.(im lookin at the lights on the tail sections) how many units are on the back?
I bought 3 of the 38" ones, so the back is just one strand and then there is a strand on each side (that's well over 300
LEDs if you count my front running lights, and there is no noticeable electrical draw). The long ones that I bought
say "not for automotive use" but the exact same lights in the shorter sections are, so I just got 'em anyways. They are
encapsulated in clear rubber and waterproof and if you have a little electrical tape and silicon caulk, the wire
connections can be waterproof too.
EDITED TO ADD: The separations you are seeing in the photo are the zip-ties.
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Re: Under-Scoot Lights [no more ambiguous topic name]
How did you turn the mud-flap reflector into a brake light Krusty? I really like that idea. Great safety mod and looks damn nice too...KRUSTYburger wrote:...Except the one on the rear mudflap, it's a red brake light...
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I found the site that you bought these from, and I'm wondering which one's you got. I'm really interested in these for my scoot.
Thanks
http://www.superbrightleds.com/light_bars-flexible.html
Thanks
http://www.superbrightleds.com/light_bars-flexible.html
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Thanks for the compliments! You would have to check to see if it's legal in your area, but as long as they aren't flashing you should be safe.
The item I got was "WFLB96 series 96-LED Waterproof Flexible Light Bar", about midway down the page you linked to. There's 3 of them
on my scooter, orange is the cheapest color (other colors cost extra for some reason).
The item I got was "WFLB96 series 96-LED Waterproof Flexible Light Bar", about midway down the page you linked to. There's 3 of them
on my scooter, orange is the cheapest color (other colors cost extra for some reason).
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Thanks man! It's funny you brought up this thread cuz I just finished adding a couple more lights tonight.
Here's the rear with my new round red light on the mudflap
(my sticker came off so I had to cover up the discoloration).
Here you can see how the back lights up when I hit the brakes.
Also added some little LEDs on my front fender. I got them for my dad before his
wreck and he gave them back to me after. They are actually lighted license plate
bolts, but they fit right in the slots for the front fender screws!
And it's kinda hard to tell, but I put a string of yellow lights right behind the battery box
so it gets brighter right in the middle of the scoot and fades out to a darker orange.
I really wish you could capture what it looks like in real life, the photos are a little off.
Here's the rear with my new round red light on the mudflap
(my sticker came off so I had to cover up the discoloration).
Here you can see how the back lights up when I hit the brakes.
Also added some little LEDs on my front fender. I got them for my dad before his
wreck and he gave them back to me after. They are actually lighted license plate
bolts, but they fit right in the slots for the front fender screws!
And it's kinda hard to tell, but I put a string of yellow lights right behind the battery box
so it gets brighter right in the middle of the scoot and fades out to a darker orange.
I really wish you could capture what it looks like in real life, the photos are a little off.
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i was going to do this with my scooter but in green then again idk if i can do it :/ im not very good with wiring
well seeing im on the subject maybe you can help me i was thinking about getting the same as you but adding the Universal Remote Control System but im new to any lighting and such so im lost haha how would i go by adding the lights to my battery??
please and thank you
well seeing im on the subject maybe you can help me i was thinking about getting the same as you but adding the Universal Remote Control System but im new to any lighting and such so im lost haha how would i go by adding the lights to my battery??
please and thank you
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Every light I've added on my scooter I have wired to a switch (except the added brake light, obviously that's wired to the brake wiring). My switch is wired to the 12v outlet & mounted just behind it. It's easy enough to reach, I don't see why you would need a remote... I should also probably mention that I never use my 12v outlet so if you do use yours you should have your switch directly wired to the battery rather than the outlet because when the lights are switched on the outlet may or may not have enough power to light the lights and whatever else you have plugged in.
I would always recommend putting lights or anything on a switch so you can leave it off during the day and they will last longer. Also if you wired them straight to the battery without a switch, the surge of power when you start the scooter would burn the lights out even faster... Just some things to consider, I'm no expert, just sort of DIY trial & error.
Also, a friend of mine did the green LEDs (same kind I got) under their Vespa S, and it looked awesome! The green is even brighter than the orange. Plus the way the Buddy panels are shaped, it blocks a lot of the light. Good luck with your project!
I would always recommend putting lights or anything on a switch so you can leave it off during the day and they will last longer. Also if you wired them straight to the battery without a switch, the surge of power when you start the scooter would burn the lights out even faster... Just some things to consider, I'm no expert, just sort of DIY trial & error.
Also, a friend of mine did the green LEDs (same kind I got) under their Vespa S, and it looked awesome! The green is even brighter than the orange. Plus the way the Buddy panels are shaped, it blocks a lot of the light. Good luck with your project!
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thanks ill keep all that in mind i just dont want to kill myself when i try to install XD all i need is to die before i get to show it offKRUSTYburger wrote:Every light I've added on my scooter I have wired to a switch (except the added brake light, obviously that's wired to the brake wiring). My switch is wired to the 12v outlet & mounted just behind it. It's easy enough to reach, I don't see why you would need a remote... I should also probably mention that I never use my 12v outlet so if you do use yours you should have your switch directly wired to the battery rather than the outlet because when the lights are switched on the outlet may or may not have enough power to light the lights and whatever else you have plugged in.
I would always recommend putting lights or anything on a switch so you can leave it off during the day and they will last longer. Also if you wired them straight to the battery without a switch, the surge of power when you start the scooter would burn the lights out even faster... Just some things to consider, I'm no expert, just sort of DIY trial & error.
Also, a friend of mine did the green LEDs (same kind I got) under their Vespa S, and it looked awesome! The green is even brighter than the orange. Plus the way the Buddy panels are shaped, it blocks a lot of the light. Good luck with your project!
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thanks!
after seeing the Buddy with the LED underlights....well, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. So, I now have white electropods lighting up the underside of Blackjack Sally....and it looks kewl!!!
Had I not seen your pics, it wouldn't have occurred to me, so thanks for the inspiration!
I even picked up a few led strips to further highlight a few more areas, provided her electrical system can handle it lol
Had I not seen your pics, it wouldn't have occurred to me, so thanks for the inspiration!
I even picked up a few led strips to further highlight a few more areas, provided her electrical system can handle it lol
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I talked the talk, so now...
here's the walk...Electrified Sally. Thank you, Krustyburger. I must admit that until I saw your lit up buddy, I never would've made the connection to light up my scooter like that. But when I saw yours, man, I couldn't wait to light mine up.
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I asked the techs at SuperBrightLEDs what the difference was between the automotive and non-automotive flexible strips. Here's what I got:
In addition to strip lighting, I've also been looking at Joe-Florida's kits. He's got a 26-lamp scooter kit, and what sets his stuff apart is having individual LEDs that are a bit brighter, but especially each one has 3' of heat-resistant wire, which can be brought back to a central point pretty easily. The kit comes with lotsa connectors, zip-ties, LED mounts, waterproof switch, fuse holder, the whole enchilada. He's also got some nice EZ-Connect wiring junctions on his Installation Supplies page as well. http://ledaccentlights.net
So if I were inclined to go the Joe Florida way, I'd probably stick a couple lamps in each fender and use the other individual lamps in the other fun spaces - up under the seat/tank, that space between the front panel and the top of the front fender, inside the footwell engine grill, plus the pods underneath the frame. Or something like that I might need to order more lights if I find more interesting places to hide 'em. Whadda ya think - green LEDs on my Italia?
Apparently the SE-WFLS family can take higher DC voltages (like the 14 or so volts found in your typical auto wiring) compared to the WFLB series. The WFLB may eventually get surged-out. Something to consider.Hello Pete,
The SE-WFLS would be my suggestion for your project. The WFLB96 is not setup to accept voltages over 12V where the wflb is setup to work in automotive use.
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In addition to strip lighting, I've also been looking at Joe-Florida's kits. He's got a 26-lamp scooter kit, and what sets his stuff apart is having individual LEDs that are a bit brighter, but especially each one has 3' of heat-resistant wire, which can be brought back to a central point pretty easily. The kit comes with lotsa connectors, zip-ties, LED mounts, waterproof switch, fuse holder, the whole enchilada. He's also got some nice EZ-Connect wiring junctions on his Installation Supplies page as well. http://ledaccentlights.net
So if I were inclined to go the Joe Florida way, I'd probably stick a couple lamps in each fender and use the other individual lamps in the other fun spaces - up under the seat/tank, that space between the front panel and the top of the front fender, inside the footwell engine grill, plus the pods underneath the frame. Or something like that I might need to order more lights if I find more interesting places to hide 'em. Whadda ya think - green LEDs on my Italia?
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I know this is an old thread, but hopefully the two of you are still monitoring, as I know you are both still active on the forum.
PeteH. Did you ever order some Joe Florida LEDs and put them on your scooter? Looking at his website, they do look like they are an outstanding product with really good backing....plenty of great reviews.
KRUSTYburger: Nice pictures. I like how it turned out!
Also, perhaps you PMed Skootz Kabootz, but I'm curious too: How did you turn the mud-flap reflector into a brake light? Do you happen to recall what part you ordered? Was it LED as well (I read that you have it connected to the brake light)?
Also, you commented that you "added some little LEDs on my front fender. I got them for my dad before his wreck and he gave them back to me after. They are actually lighted license plate bolts, but they fit right in the slots for the front fender screws". I don't think I've ever seen those advertised anywhere. Did you wire those separately from your other LEDs so they are on all the time as running lights? Any idea if those are still available?
My new scooter is black so I want to make it as visible as possible.
Sorry for the lateness of the questions, but I'm thinking there are enough newbies on the post recently that they may not have seen this thread and might find it interesting.
PeteH. Did you ever order some Joe Florida LEDs and put them on your scooter? Looking at his website, they do look like they are an outstanding product with really good backing....plenty of great reviews.
KRUSTYburger: Nice pictures. I like how it turned out!
Also, perhaps you PMed Skootz Kabootz, but I'm curious too: How did you turn the mud-flap reflector into a brake light? Do you happen to recall what part you ordered? Was it LED as well (I read that you have it connected to the brake light)?
Also, you commented that you "added some little LEDs on my front fender. I got them for my dad before his wreck and he gave them back to me after. They are actually lighted license plate bolts, but they fit right in the slots for the front fender screws". I don't think I've ever seen those advertised anywhere. Did you wire those separately from your other LEDs so they are on all the time as running lights? Any idea if those are still available?
My new scooter is black so I want to make it as visible as possible.
Sorry for the lateness of the questions, but I'm thinking there are enough newbies on the post recently that they may not have seen this thread and might find it interesting.
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Naw, I haven't done anything yet. I'm planning on driving over to SuperBrightLEDs to pick up some 1156 replacements to set up the deadlights as running lights, so hopefully I can get hands and eyes on some of their automotive LED strips to see how well they might fit and get a feel for durability.
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i really like this idea, think its neat
unfort for me i will never get around to doing it .maybe for some reason it seems fun when others do it. when i think of myself riding a scoot with all this light coming from beneath i get less excited
if i am riding it can i even see it? i like seeing it
unfort for me i will never get around to doing it .maybe for some reason it seems fun when others do it. when i think of myself riding a scoot with all this light coming from beneath i get less excited
if i am riding it can i even see it? i like seeing it
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+1 to the really old thread ^ but I also just found it haha. Anyhow, check my little toy out.
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These were all taken before paint, Ill have to try to get some more with the new PJ and see if it makes it look any better!
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These were all taken before paint, Ill have to try to get some more with the new PJ and see if it makes it look any better!