Pinasco is going to amaze again the world of Classic Scooter with a big innovation for all fans of new LML STAR 125-150 4T. Pinasco in its tradition has been always in pole position in the world of tuning for scooters and now is presenting to all its loyal fans the first performance Symphony exhaust for scooter LML STAR 125-150 4T. The exhaust has been tested for long time in different conditions to combine performance and reliability. It’s handmade welded and supplied in two models: the cheapest is made of powder-coated steel, the most prestigious is made of INOX steel. Pinasco Symphony for LML 125-150 4T is the biggest novelty of 2010 in the tuning market for scooters. The EU certificate of approval avoids the obligation to make any other kind of update of documents of your vehicle. Pinasco Symphony is a very high quality product with a perfect sound that will be loved by any ear.
Someone at Pinasco is either a wiseguy or can't spell. On their site, the pipe is referred to as the "Symphony," the "Symfony" and the "Sinfony."
It's not exactly a good-looking pipe. Commenters on 2sb have said there are matte black and ceramic white versions as well.
I'd love to put a pipe on the 4T but will be waiting to see what else comes along. This thing's just too hideous. Of course, if other buy it and find it's a rocket booster, well… we'll see…
Eric // LA Scooter Meetup Group // Stella 4T // Vespa LX // Vespa LXS // Honda Helix // some, uh, projects…
OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber
BuddyRaton wrote:OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber
If you look at the graph on Pinasco's site, they're showing increase from 7.5HP to 8HP, about 7%. That's similar to what I got from the Leo Vince on my GTV.
BuddyRaton wrote:OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber
If you look at the graph on Pinasco's site, they're showing increase from 7.5HP to 8HP, about 7%. That's similar to what I got from the Leo Vince on my GTV.
Doesn't stop it from being butt ugly though...
From TSB "but increasing the RPM range by about 1000 RPM or more"
Yeah you get .5 hp...at 6,500 rpm. Up to 5,500 rpm the performance gains are minimal.
BuddyRaton wrote:OK...its uber ugly...it makes noise..no mention of any performance gains. I have never understood making noise for the purpose of making noise..and I run a kitted modified vintage with an expansion chamber
If you look at the graph on Pinasco's site, they're showing increase from 7.5HP to 8HP, about 7%. That's similar to what I got from the Leo Vince on my GTV.
Doesn't stop it from being butt ugly though...
From TSB "but increasing the RPM range by about 1000 RPM or more"
Yeah you get .5 hp...at 6,500 rpm. Up to 5,500 rpm the performance gains are minimal.
Well, that's pretty much what you'd expect from a performance pipe for a 4-stroke. Any horsepower gains are going to come from better breathing ability at high revs, not increased torque at low rpms.
If you goto 'you tube'. And search for LML 150 4t.... I found 2 videos .. but its hard to tell about the sound in them....
I contacted James at POC..He said their pipe for Stella 4t is nearing completion.
But I fear it WONT be muffled in any way..just like their POC Bajaj.....
I would like somewhat of a silencer (mild) and not just a straight pipe.... ideally for me anyways
jimmbomb wrote:Well....Any-1 get one yet and put it on their Stella?? ...
I wont be doing anything like that untill my 2 year warranty is up. After that I'll keep you all informed.
untill then, I bet some others here will do it sooner and advise it here before me.
ericalm wrote:Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.
And the Polini's better looking.
Agree.
Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.
ericalm wrote:Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.
And the Polini's better looking.
Agree.
Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.
And it's not stainless steel.
Wow. I haven't seen the PM Tuning for sale by a US company for under $480 or so!
Eric // LA Scooter Meetup Group // Stella 4T // Vespa LX // Vespa LXS // Honda Helix // some, uh, projects…
ericalm wrote:Agreed. It's comparable to some of the race parts for the moderns (PM Tuning pipe for LX, for example) but still out of my range.
And the Polini's better looking.
Agree.
Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.
And it's not stainless steel.
Wow. I haven't seen the PM Tuning for sale by a US company for under $480 or so!
SIP's dollar prices vary daily with the exchange rate, and I think I caught a brief period when the rate was favorable.
Way more than the PM Tuning for the LX. I paid $300 and change for my PM Tuning pipe from SIP, and the shipping wasn't too bad. Well under $400 total, IIRC.h
And it's not stainless steel.
Wow. I haven't seen the PM Tuning for sale by a US company for under $480 or so!
SIP's dollar prices vary daily with the exchange rate, and I think I caught a b
rief period when the rate was favorable.
So.... PM Tuning makes a pipe that will fit up to tha LML 125/150???
thanks...
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