Time for a new rear tire...
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Time for a new rear tire...
My rear tire is at the wear bars...3,000 miles. The tires are Maxxis 6029 and of course I can not find them anywhere. After doing some reading on this forum, it appears as if the new kool-aid is the Heidenau K61, anyone know of a good place to get one?. I have two concerns/questions: Can I just replace the rear tire and keep the stock front tire without any ill effects in the handling department?....I ride rain or shine and need something that has descent wet weather grip, the Maxxis tire did very well!
I am open to other tire suggestions also, I would rather have good grip in wet conditions than longevity in tire life.....Thanks!
I am open to other tire suggestions also, I would rather have good grip in wet conditions than longevity in tire life.....Thanks!
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If you're going to the Heidenaus, you definitely want to change both tires. The tread and tire composition are totally different.
You can get them from Scooterwest.com: http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_page ... -Tire/8968
It might be cheaper to get your dealer to order them.
Are you doing 3.5 x 10 or 100/90-10?
As much as I love the K61s, SkootzKabootz got little life out of his, burning through the rear relatively quickly: topic21862.html
You can get them from Scooterwest.com: http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_page ... -Tire/8968
It might be cheaper to get your dealer to order them.
Are you doing 3.5 x 10 or 100/90-10?
As much as I love the K61s, SkootzKabootz got little life out of his, burning through the rear relatively quickly: topic21862.html
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I got the Michelin S1's about 2K ago and they're doing great. A good solid tire and not bad in the rain, plus they are cheap and come in 100/90-10. I got mine from bike bandit http://www.bikebandit.com/michelin-s1-scooter-tire .
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Thanks for the link! I will probably go this route.2wheelNsanity wrote:I got the Michelin S1's about 2K ago and they're doing great. A good solid tire and not bad in the rain, plus they are cheap and come in 100/90-10. I got mine from bike bandit http://www.bikebandit.com/michelin-s1-scooter-tire .
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I'm in the same boat — nearly time for new tires. Has anyone bought tires from Just Scooter Tires? They are selling K61s for under $60.
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scudder, I replaced the stock whitewall on my 150 with a Michelin S1. That was 6,500 miles ago and it still looks great. I've got almost 12,000 miles on the stock front and it's still going strong. You'll be fine mixing & matching the S1 with the stock up front.
And the S1 is great in the wet. Good price, good tire.
And the S1 is great in the wet. Good price, good tire.
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I'm just reaching 10,000 miles with the original stock tires on my 2008 Buddy 50, and I think I will have to replace the rear tire soon. Very little tread left. I'll get the same one that came on the bike. If someone finds a tire that lasts longer, let me know. For now, I'm pretty darn happy with the stock tires.
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Maybe that's what it is. My Buddy with around 6,000 miles on it still has the original tires, and they both still look new to me. And I would say that 90% of the time I have either a topcase or my platform that I built mounted on the rear rack (which weighs about the same as my top case).2wheelNsanity wrote:iMoses wrote "My original tire lasted 9,700 miles (07 Buddy 125)"
Dirvin wrote "I'm just reaching 10,000 miles with the original stock tires on my 2008 Buddy 50."
WOW! I got 4800 on mine and thought I was doing good. There must be alot of really smooth roads where you ride.
I used to go up to the San Juan Islands when I was in my 30s, and I remember they had really rough roads up there...not to say their roads were bad, just that they materials they used to make their roads were different...kind of aggregate like or something. I'm no expert at roads, but I tell you, if you were to take a spill on those roads, you'd come out in a lot worse shape than you would on the roads around here!
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I think that's where SkootzKabootz got his. I get mine from Motorsport; don't mind paying a few more bucks if they're going to those guys.jonlink wrote:I'm in the same boat — nearly time for new tires. Has anyone bought tires from Just Scooter Tires? They are selling K61s for under $60.
To enter the pissing contest, I got almost 13K on the rear Heidenau K61 on my LX. And that was a lot of hard riding, freeways, jackassery, etc.
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No, I got mine from Tires-Easy.com. They had the best price + shipping cost back when I ordered. But the K61's seem to have been out of stock there ever since and now according to their website it looks like they don't even carry Heidenau's any more. So I don't know what's going on there.ericalm wrote:I think that's where SkootzKabootz got his. I get mine from Motorsport; don't mind paying a few more bucks if they're going to those guys.jonlink wrote:I'm in the same boat — nearly time for new tires. Has anyone bought tires from Just Scooter Tires? They are selling K61s for under $60.
To enter the pissing contest, I got almost 13K on the rear Heidenau K61 on my LX. And that was a lot of hard riding, freeways, jackassery, etc.
And Eric, I still can't figure out how the heck you've got 13K on your rear tire! You clearly have some sort of mutant Heidenau
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YMMV!Skootz Kabootz wrote:And Eric, I still can't figure out how the heck you've got 13K on your rear tire! You clearly have some sort of mutant Heidenau
I think that's uncommon, to say the least.
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To give a perspective on the roads I have to ride on here is a picture showing the difference between chip-n-seal and smooth asphalt. After a few years cars put down some rubber, but it is still like traveling on coarse grit sandpaper. This might explain why I only got 4800 miles on my Prima whitewalls.
There is a good side to the chip-n-seal road and that is during moderate rain and light snow you won't loss grip.
There is a good side to the chip-n-seal road and that is during moderate rain and light snow you won't loss grip.
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I don't think anyone is getting much more than 4800 out of the Prima whitewalls.
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I'm at 3200, and that rear tire isn't done yet, but my 4500 mile service I may just do it. The Genuine 'truckload' sale is coming to our local dealer this weekend, so I wast thinking of picking up some tires and the prima pipe, to be put on later! Also wouldn't mind a nice topcase for the Kymco for a backrest.
My dealer gives a good price on the S1, and since I don't pay labor I'll probably pick those, and have them put on the pipe at the same time so they don't have to remove the exhaust 2x.
My dealer gives a good price on the S1, and since I don't pay labor I'll probably pick those, and have them put on the pipe at the same time so they don't have to remove the exhaust 2x.
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I got 4800 miles on my Pirreli SL26 (which I didn't like).jmazza wrote:I've gotten between 3-4k on my three rear tires. Just ordered another S1 and wondering what my tread life will be here in Colorado vs Florida.
My last 3 rear tires have been Michelin S1's and I got just over 4K miles on 2 of them. The current one has 3066 miles on it and it's looking like it is wearing a little faster than the previous 2 and needs to be changed. It feels like it needs to be replaced, too. Gets a little squidgey in the turns; especially on wet roads.
Most of my riding is fast commuting; very little city riding.
YMMV, literally.
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Next HF impulse: The tire changer! They're relatively cheap.scudder wrote:Tire spoons and dish shopTocsik wrote:Yup. What'd ya use?getting the actual tire off and the new one on was a pain.
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100/90 10 is *slightly* beefier.andylaiphoto wrote:What is the difference between the two and what is the advantage if any of running 100/90-10?ericalm wrote:
Are you doing 3.5 x 10 or 100/90-10?
Here's some info
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Yes and no actually. It depends on the tire maker. The Continentals of one size could be smaller or larger than the same size tires from Michelin. When you get down to it, yes... the 100/90 10 is slightly beefier.Tocsik wrote:100/90 10 is *slightly* beefier.andylaiphoto wrote:What is the difference between the two and what is the advantage if any of running 100/90-10?ericalm wrote:
Are you doing 3.5 x 10 or 100/90-10?
Here's some info
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LOL, not at all! I think they can look good on some scoots, but many people put way too much stock in their appearance. There are many much better options for blackwalls than any whitewalls on the market. I ditched the ones on my Stella ASAP!redcass wrote:I hated the ones that came with my Italia.ericalm wrote:I don't think anyone is getting much more than 4800 out of the Prima whitewalls.
But admittedly, I don't get the appeal. I think they look cheap.
(Runs away before things are thrown at her head for insulting white walls.)
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I just passed 10,000 miles on the original tires on my 125 and had the rear tire replaced today. Since the OEM tires weren't available I went with a Michelin S1. The front tire still looks good.Dirvin wrote:I'm just reaching 10,000 miles with the original stock tires on my 2008 Buddy 50, and I think I will have to replace the rear tire soon. Very little tread left. I'll get the same one that came on the bike. If someone finds a tire that lasts longer, let me know. For now, I'm pretty darn happy with the stock tires.
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I second what 2wheelNsanity said above about chip seal road surfaces - for better or worse.
About a month ago the main road that I commute to work (20 miles @ 45-55 mph) on was chip sealed. For years it have been smooth asphalt which was nice to ride on as long as it wasn't raining. The original rear tire on my Buddy 125 lasted 8600 miles and the following 2 Michelin S83 lasted a little over 3000 miles each. About the same time the road was chip sealed I installed a Dunlop K398 out back, and after 1500 miles I think I will be lucky to get 2000 miles. Granted, this is the first time I have run a K398 on the Buddy, but this same tire on my old Honda usually lasted 4000 miles on smoother surfaces. I think road type can greatly affect tire life.
About a month ago the main road that I commute to work (20 miles @ 45-55 mph) on was chip sealed. For years it have been smooth asphalt which was nice to ride on as long as it wasn't raining. The original rear tire on my Buddy 125 lasted 8600 miles and the following 2 Michelin S83 lasted a little over 3000 miles each. About the same time the road was chip sealed I installed a Dunlop K398 out back, and after 1500 miles I think I will be lucky to get 2000 miles. Granted, this is the first time I have run a K398 on the Buddy, but this same tire on my old Honda usually lasted 4000 miles on smoother surfaces. I think road type can greatly affect tire life.