Power outlet not working

chasemcmorr · Post by **chasemcmorr** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:13 am

My power outlet is not working and not really sure if it has ever worked, any ideas?

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:29 am

Could have blown the 1A fuse on this circuit. Easy to do.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:38 am

If you've ever (a) plugged in a high-current-draw device (like heated gloves, etc.) or (b) used a charger through the power jack such as the full-sized Battery Tender or Battery Tender Plus (charging current > 1 amp), this fuse will blow.

To fix: the fuse is in a holder under the front cover. You need to remove the two screws on the upper part of the legshield (on the driver's side of the shield), plus one more on the front of the cover. Gently remove the cover, and the 1A fuse is in a holder somewhat near the power jack. 1A fuses are a bit hard to find at the auto-parts store, but it seems OK to use a 2A fuse. Don't upgrade to a big honkin' fuse just to run bigger accessories - you'll melt down some wiring for sure.

The Battery Tender Jr. can be used to charge the battery through the power jack if you buy the optional accessory plug for it. It charges at only 0.75A, which keeps the fuse intact.

opposable_thumbs · Post by **opposable_thumbs** » Wed May 02, 2012 3:14 pm

Mine has never worked but I'm ready to tackle this. When you say 1A fuse, are there different ones or will ANY 1A fuse work? For example, will this one work?

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... Id=2103770

Sorry for the ignorance!!!!

tenshi · Post by **tenshi** » Wed May 02, 2012 3:31 pm

@ opposable_thumbs, the one you linked to will not work. The one it use is a blade fuse, but I can't remember which size, mini or ATO.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Wed May 02, 2012 6:53 pm

I'm pretty sure it's a 'standard' blade fuse (for lack of a better term, like the ones in most automotive fuse boxes) - it's not the really tiny mini-blade, nor is it the barrel fuse shown above at Radio Shack.

rsrider · Post by **rsrider** » Thu May 03, 2012 3:18 am

I just discovered I had a power outlet last week when I was cleaning my scoot. The only thing I have to plug into it is a radar detector......srsly.

jonlink · Post by **jonlink** » Thu May 03, 2012 3:45 am

Definitely the 1A ATO [LINK]. I blew mine when I was turning my deadlights into running lights. It is pretty hard to find 1a fuses, though. I had to put a special order in at autozone (or some place like that). 2A fuses are easier to find. That's what I use and I haven't had a single problem.

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Thu May 03, 2012 3:47 am

rsrider wrote:I just discovered I had a power outlet last week when I was cleaning my scoot. The only thing I have to plug into it is a radar detector......srsly.

How about a Battery Tender Jr? That is the handiest thing to plug into the Buddy 12V outlet.

opposable_thumbs · Post by **opposable_thumbs** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:41 am

jonlink wrote:Definitely the 1A ATO [LINK]. I blew mine when I was turning my deadlights into running lights. It is pretty hard to find 1a fuses, though. I had to put a special order in at autozone (or some place like that). 2A fuses are easier to find. That's what I use and I haven't had a single problem.

Thank you!!!!!!!

Juddly450 · Post by **Juddly450** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:10 am

I turned to this thread as the charger on my Blackjack has not worked since I purchased from a private seller. I changed the fuse (2A) and plugged in my phone charger: The charger light flashed on for a split second, then stopped. I changed the fuse, tried a different changer and boom, same thing.

Is the 2A to powerful? Not sure where to look for a short as I pulled the front cover and all the wires look clean.

Suggestions? help?! Thanks so much!

jonlink · Post by **jonlink** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:53 am

Juddly450 wrote:I turned to this thread as the charger on my Blackjack has not worked since I purchased from a private seller. I changed the fuse (2A) and plugged in my phone charger: The charger light flashed on for a split second, then stopped. I changed the fuse, tried a different changer and boom, same thing.

Is the 2A to powerful? Not sure where to look for a short as I pulled the front cover and all the wires look clean.

Suggestions? help?! Thanks so much!

If the fuses keep blowing you have something else wrong. Either your phone charger is trying to draw too much or you have a short. The easy way to figure it out is to try using the charger jack to charge something else. If that blows it too, you probably have a short. If not, it is your cellphone charger.

2A (2 amp) fuses actually allow the charger jack to draw more one more amp than it was design to (it comes with a 1A fuse), so if it is blowing it is definitely not the fuses fault.

Drum Pro · Post by **Drum Pro** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:19 pm

I blew mine the 2nd week I had Gizmo cos I didn't know at the time that it couldn't handle an auto 12 volt tire inflater. But had the shop fix it when I went in for Gizmo's regular check up....

Juddly450 · Post by **Juddly450** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:17 pm

Thanks for the input guys...will attempt alternative source tonight...Wiring looked clean so, hoping it doesn't turn into a search for the short party. Will post update this evening!

kmrcstintn · Post by **kmrcstintn** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:53 pm

went through the same thing when I blew the 1A fuse when I tried a portable plug-in tire inflator...helluva a job for the shop, especially with a front rack installed; I've basically resorted to NOT using it again for anything larger than a phone charger...

stupid idea to put one in there with ONLY a 1A fuse...can't really use it for anything other than a phone charger

TVB · Post by **TVB** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:27 pm

kmrcstintn wrote:stupid idea to put one in there with ONLY a 1A fuse...can't really use it for anything other than a phone charger

Well, that is what they put it there for. And it's what the wiring is designed to support.

Drum Pro · Post by **Drum Pro** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:37 pm

In my defence I was a total noob.. Now I never even use the charger thing-y.

Skootz Kabootz · Post by **Skootz Kabootz** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:48 pm

LOVE that charger. Especially for longer trips. It is so nice to be able to keep my phone or ipod charged up. It has definitely saved me more than once!

Juddly450 · Post by **Juddly450** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:23 pm

Well, I tried another phone changer just to test it out on my gf's 125...works like a champ. But, as soon as I went to plug it into my bj it started to smoke a little so, unplugged it of course.

I can go through some of the grounds to make sure they're tight but, other than that...suggestions on where to begin the troubleshoot/search for short? I do not have any other battery issues whatsoever.

Thanks!

Skootz Kabootz · Post by **Skootz Kabootz** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:27 am

Juddly450 wrote:Well, I tried another phone changer just to test it out on my gf's 125...works like a champ. But, as soon as I went to plug it into my bj it started to smoke a little so, unplugged it of course.

I can go through some of the grounds to make sure they're tight but, other than that...suggestions on where to begin the troubleshoot/search for short? I do not have any other battery issues whatsoever.

Thanks!

Are you still under warrantee? Take it to the dealer and let them fix it.

Juddly450 · Post by **Juddly450** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:54 pm

Well....good news. I fixed it! After changing yet another fuse and testing with a voltmeter I saw that power was in fact getting to the 2 prongs on the backside of the charger. But, as soon as I plug something in it would short.

So, finally in sufficient light I saw there were a (-) and a (+) sign under each of the prongs that I had not seen before. For some strrrrrrange reason the black ground was hooked up to the (+)! so, switched em to the correct input and all is well!

Lessons learned? 1. use sufficient lighting always, 2. sometimes the simple fix is all that is needed!

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

black sunshine · Post by **black sunshine** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:08 pm

I just did this with a 5A blade fuse, and it seems to be working just fine! Will update later on and let you know if my phone blows up or anything

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