New Model Buddy?

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:50 am

looks a lot like the Vespa to me...

Anyone know anything about this?

http://www.pgo-scooter.com/news_info.ph ... be7bb2ec80

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:00 pm

Looking more closely it looks like a mixture of the Vespa and Yamaha Vino. Love the flat seat and disc brakes!

Did you see the multifunction LCD display? A RPM indicator... wow.

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:31 pm

don't like it for a buddy. too retro. the rear is what kills it. it droops and hangs
over the engine like all other vespa style scooters. the seat is really flat. buddy's rear end rises upward and its tail looks mc like. its sporty and sharp and modern. this one, not so much

hardd1 · Post by **hardd1** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:57 pm

sorta looks like a GMW R2

http://www.gorillamotorworks.com/products/gmw-r2/

phatch · Post by **phatch** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:02 pm

I actually really like this design and hope they can bring it here.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:07 pm

Hardd1 - you're right, they look very similar, down to the styling. I saw a shop in Florida selling those Gorilla scooters for $1,500...

skully93 · Post by **skully93** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:47 pm

well, with electronic anti-theft, front/rear disc brakes, and adjustable shocks, I might consider it.

The front looks like a Buddy, a Vespa, and a Kymco Like had a genetic mash up. It might not be my favorite to look at, but if it's fun to drive, efficient, and stops/supports better than the Buddy model, it might be a winner.

Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:27 pm

I like the specs but not the styling.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:20 pm

This first showed up on MB last summer, if I recall. The PDF on PGO's website is dated June 2011.

Looks like a 113cc. I'm trying to find the performance specs on the current 125 (hp/kw) to compare it with this 110, but no luck so far.

Wheelz · Post by **Wheelz** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:56 pm

looks like a cross between a vespa and a yammy C3 to me...

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm

I am not a fan. It looks like a Chinese knockoff of a real scooter.

avonpirate · Post by **avonpirate** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:00 pm

did I understand right???? a 4 stroke 50cc.... that confuses me.

Demo_Nic · Post by **Demo_Nic** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:10 pm

Looks like a Yamaha C3 to me.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:20 pm

avonpirate wrote:did I understand right???? a 4 stroke 50cc.... that confuses me.

It's actually a 113cc...

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:21 pm

Wheelz wrote:looks like a cross between a vespa and a yammy C3 to me...

Agreed!

scootavaran · Post by **scootavaran** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:28 pm

Bubu???

The bike looks alttle better in that dark grey color.

phatch · Post by **phatch** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:58 pm

RoaringTodd wrote:
Wheelz wrote:looks like a cross between a vespa and a yammy C3 to me...
Agreed!

+1. Woulda gotten a C3 if it had more juice than 50 cc.

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:41 pm

Tocsik wrote:I like the specs but not the styling.

I like the styling (esp the seat) but not the specs. Diff'rent Strokes, I guess.

TVB · Post by **TVB** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:46 pm

avonpirate wrote:did I understand right???? a 4 stroke 50cc.... that confuses me.

There are such things, such as the Yamaha C3, and the Honda Metro and Ruckus. 50cc gets them under the wire for licensing in many states, and 4T keeps them quiet and emits fewer pollutants. Certainly not the quickest scoots out there, but they fill a niche.

anthony · Post by **anthony** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:33 pm

Anyone else notice how similar the "Jbubu" logo looks to Vespa's?

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:31 pm

if this is ever a buddy genuine better work some magic on it because its meh and looks like any other scooter on the road

character lacking to say the least

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:42 pm

however i may see some potential

still it is not as "cute" as an HK Buddy would be

black sunshine · Post by **black sunshine** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:14 pm

i think it looks pretty frackin sweet! but . . . 113 cc? :-/

if there's a performance kit for it, i'm in.

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:59 pm

black sunshine wrote:i think it looks pretty frackin sweet! but . . . 113 cc? :-/

if there's a performance kit for it, i'm in.

Yeah, but the spec sheet says PGO is getting 10hp out of a 113cc 4T. that's pretty impressive, and bodes well for the performance of the upcoming RainbowUnicorn.

Post by **ericalm** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:07 am

This has been around for a year or so. I agree that it looks too much like a generic Asian attempt at Italian style. It reminds me of the Like.

Syd wrote:
black sunshine wrote:i think it looks pretty frackin sweet! but . . . 113 cc? :-/

if there's a performance kit for it, i'm in.
Yeah, but the spec sheet says PGO is getting 10hp out of a 113cc 4T. that's pretty impressive, and bodes well for the performance of the upcoming RainbowUnicorn.

EXACTLY.

Post by **jrsjr** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:01 am

Syd wrote:
black sunshine wrote:i think it looks pretty frackin sweet! but . . . 113 cc? :-/

if there's a performance kit for it, i'm in.
Yeah, but the spec sheet says PGO is getting 10hp out of a 113cc 4T. that's pretty impressive, and bodes well for the performance of the upcoming RainbowUnicorn.

While you're waiting for the RainbowUnicorn, you can fly around on one of these. Hint: There are many among us who aren't entirely convinced of the truthiness of this video. Is it a FlyingRainbowUnicorn, or isn't it?

Post by **ericalm** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:17 am

jrsjr wrote:
Syd wrote:
black sunshine wrote:i think it looks pretty frackin sweet! but . . . 113 cc? :-/

if there's a performance kit for it, i'm in.
Yeah, but the spec sheet says PGO is getting 10hp out of a 113cc 4T. that's pretty impressive, and bodes well for the performance of the upcoming RainbowUnicorn.
While you're waiting for the RainbowUnicorn, you can fly around on one of these. Hint: There are many among us who aren't entirely convinced of the truthiness of this video. Is it a FlyingRainbowUnicorn, or isn't it?

HQ'd very close to me. I may have to camp out in front of their office for the rest of time or until they let me ride this thing.

velobuff · Post by **velobuff** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:22 am

skully93 wrote:well, with electronic anti-theft, front/rear disc brakes, and adjustable shocks, I might consider it.

The front looks like a Buddy, a Vespa, and a Kymco Like had a genetic mash up. It might not be my favorite to look at, but if it's fun to drive, efficient, and stops/supports better than the Buddy model, it might be a winner.

Funny I thought it looks like the offspring of a 3-way between a kymco like, yamaha vino and Yamaha c3..

jd · Post by jd » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:30 pm

I doubt that Genuine will bring this to the U.S.A. The market is too small and all it would do is cannibalize Buddy 125 sales. It means developing the marketing assets and parts inventory for a model that isn't likely to bring in much, if any, incremental revenue to Genuine, but would cost a lot to launch.

And while I'm loathe to take my Buddy 125 on the freeway, I have done it for very short jaunts in low traffic conditions to get from one interchange to the next. That would be illegal on a 113cc bike.

I must admit that I like the foot pegs for the passenger, though, regardless of the styling. But few U.S. scooters owners are really interested in carrying a passenger frequently, I believe.

jd

SYMbionic Duo · Post by **SYMbionic Duo** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:16 pm

jd wrote: And while I'm loathe to take my Buddy 125 on the freeway, I have done it for very short jaunts in low traffic conditions to get from one interchange to the next. That would be illegal on a 113cc bike.

jd

only illegal if it doesn't have motorcycle plates. most states, >50cc = Motorcycle and thus highway capable. Minimum speed is 45, I'm pretty sure that this could do 45 without a problem.

-duo

TVB · Post by **TVB** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:18 pm

SYMbionic Duo wrote:only illegal if it doesn't have motorcycle plates. most states, >50cc = Motorcycle and thus highway capable. Minimum speed is 45, I'm pretty sure that this could do 45 without a problem.

No, most states require engines above a certain size for motorcycles to ride on freeways. In some states the minimum is 125cc (so Buddy 125s are legal... if not particularly well-suited to it), but more commonly it's 150cc or higher.

Post by **ericalm** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:09 pm

TVB wrote:
SYMbionic Duo wrote:only illegal if it doesn't have motorcycle plates. most states, >50cc = Motorcycle and thus highway capable. Minimum speed is 45, I'm pretty sure that this could do 45 without a problem.
No, most states require engines above a certain size for motorcycles to ride on freeways. In some states the minimum is 125cc (so Buddy 125s are legal... if not particularly well-suited to it), but more commonly it's 150cc or higher.

It varies by state, of course, but most have either a displacement limit and/or a requirement that a minimum speed be maintained. (CA has both.) A 50cc wouldn't qualify either way.

Drum Pro · Post by **Drum Pro** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:52 pm

I know this has been around for a while now but I like it a lot. Just not the displacement.

pugbuddy · Post by **pugbuddy** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:10 am

Bland. If it was priced LOW and I needed it, then I could see it in my garage. But for me it just doesn't excite....

BeefSupreme · Post by **BeefSupreme** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:30 pm

I love it. Looks like my Kymco Like but with less body panels. That's what makes the Buddy so great, less stuff to take off. The Like is a puzzlebox when it comes simple things like getting to the air filter or removing the front leg screen. I feel if i do something wrong Cenobites are going to show up. Also, the main reason I didn't get a buddy is the lack of 2-Up comfort, I know it's not really built for it but that long (looking) seat and fold out passenger pegs are a big plus. Trip computer w/ MPG and that beautiful instrument cluster, i'm pretty much sold.

anthony · Post by **anthony** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:38 pm

BeefSupreme wrote:I feel if i do something wrong Cenobites are going to show up.

mhardgrove · Post by **mhardgrove** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:21 am

I don't know what is with that scooter, but I don't like it. Maybe if they didn't try to make it look like a knock off Vespa... Kinda looks like a extremly cheap scooter from China. I do think they would sell if they priced it right. 113cc... what engine is that?