Busted exhaust weld
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Busted exhaust weld
Well, figured out what was rattling under the Stella.
Is re-welding or a new exhaust the only way to fix this?
Is re-welding or a new exhaust the only way to fix this?
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If it's under warranty you can have it replaced but it looks like a couple of small tack welds would do the trick. Show it to your dealer for warranty before welding
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I'll look into warranty coverage. The scoot's been knocked over a couple times—not by me!*—but there are no marks or dings on the exhaust. Maybe I can find a used one. Hm, who's totaled a Stella 4T? Aside from me, I mean.
I might see if mi amigo will weld it.
* Except for one time, yeah, it was me.
I might see if mi amigo will weld it.
* Except for one time, yeah, it was me.
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^^^ This. a good weld will take care of it. 5 minutes ...Bring it by the garage. I'll zap it for ya...BuddyRaton wrote:If it's under warranty you can have it replaced but it looks like a couple of small tack welds would do the trick. Show it to your dealer for warranty before welding
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There you go! Just for others you could probably clean up the contact points and shove some JB weld in there and see if it holds.
I hope I have not made any welders cry!
I hope I have not made any welders cry!
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Thought of that, but nope. It got banged and broke elsewhere.Skootz Kabootz wrote:Can you grab the exhaust off your old cream stella? Is it in OK enough condition?
I can never get JB Weld to work on anything. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.BuddyRaton wrote:There you go! Just for others you could probably clean up the contact points and shove some JB weld in there and see if it holds.
I hope I have not made any welders cry!
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I've found that the trick is to get the surfaces really clean. I rough them up with a file or coarse sand paper then clean with alcohol...really clean with alcohol. Make sure your two parts are equal and mix really well. I usually mix on a piece of plastic. It took me a while to learn to work with that stuff but it does come in handy in a pinch!ericalm wrote:Thought of that, but nope. It got banged and broke elsewhere.Skootz Kabootz wrote:Can you grab the exhaust off your old cream stella? Is it in OK enough condition?
I can never get JB Weld to work on anything. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.BuddyRaton wrote:There you go! Just for others you could probably clean up the contact points and shove some JB weld in there and see if it holds.
I hope I have not made any welders cry!
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agreed, clean is everything when using it, and its even tougher competitor PC7...if not welding something like that drill a small hole at the end of the crack and it "helps" top it from spreading.BuddyRaton wrote:I've found that the trick is to get the surfaces really clean. I rough them up with a file or coarse sand paper then clean with alcohol...really clean with alcohol. Make sure your two parts are equal and mix really well. I usually mix on a piece of plastic. It took me a while to learn to work with that stuff but it does come in handy in a pinch!ericalm wrote:Thought of that, but nope. It got banged and broke elsewhere.Skootz Kabootz wrote:Can you grab the exhaust off your old cream stella? Is it in OK enough condition?
I can never get JB Weld to work on anything. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.BuddyRaton wrote:There you go! Just for others you could probably clean up the contact points and shove some JB weld in there and see if it holds.
I hope I have not made any welders cry!
I like JB and PC7, but this is a hard mount vibration issue. won't last long IMO. I have seen those epoxies do some amazing things though. weld it...tig would be best, but mig will do the trick too if the guy is good.
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Did yours break in the same place?rondothemidget wrote:Had that happen to mine. It's covered under warranty.
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New exhaust covered under warranty! It's on its way. Hooray!
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By the way, the new exhaust arrived a while ago but I haven't been able to get to the shop. Point is that it took about a week and a half to get the part. Relative to most scooter stuff, that's not so bad.
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Have many others experienced a broken exhaust on their 4T Stella? I've had two break now. One was at the weld, like the others posted here, and the pipe broke on the other near the heat cover. They were covered under warranty both times with no issues. I am wondering how common this problem is or if mine have been aberrations.
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If you don't have one before I get back in to town, I'll get gas for the welder and take care of it that weekend.JohnKiniston wrote:I need a 4T Pipe. I've got lots of 2T Pipes but sadly only a single broken 4T pipe.
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