Charger Outlet On Buddy 125?

DKAudio · Post by **DKAudio** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:31 pm

I always come across people writing about the charger outlet on their Buddy's. I swear my 2009 Buddy 125 does not have one. It is normally located in the front compartment under the handlebars, right? Did they not do this on the 09 125?

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:57 pm

DK, It's on the left side (driver's POV) , straight up from the fattest part of the storage bin. It will have a rubber cap.

PGO calls it the cell phone 'charging seat'. Photo on page 5 of the manual, found here: http://www.modernbuddy.com/pdf/Genuine_ ... 25-150.pdf

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:52 pm

Post a pic of your headlight. The 06 models were the only year with the proper headlight and no outlet.

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:10 am

I use mine to power my Garmin GPS, or will if it will ever quit raining long
enough to ride. Meh!

DKAudio · Post by **DKAudio** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:00 pm

Mine doesn't have one. I even took off the front plastic to see if there is wiring and there isn't. My Buddy is an 09 125, don't get it. Do you still want to see a picture of my headlight for some reason?

TVB · Post by **TVB** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:10 pm

DKAudio wrote:Mine doesn't have one. I even took off the front plastic to see if there is wiring and there isn't. My Buddy is an 09 125, don't get it. Do you still want to see a picture of my headlight for some reason?

Seeing the headlight would help determine whether your bike is really a 2009, or a 2006 (possibly unused-but-old stock when you bought it).

scullyfu · Post by **scullyfu** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:34 pm

TVB wrote:
DKAudio wrote:Mine doesn't have one. I even took off the front plastic to see if there is wiring and there isn't. My Buddy is an 09 125, don't get it. Do you still want to see a picture of my headlight for some reason?
Seeing the headlight would help determine whether your bike is really a 2009, or a 2006 (possibly unused-but-old stock when you bought it).

i would think looking at the scoot's title would tell you the year of the scoot, regardless of when it was bought.

DKAudio · Post by **DKAudio** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:38 pm

scullyfu wrote:
TVB wrote:
DKAudio wrote:Mine doesn't have one. I even took off the front plastic to see if there is wiring and there isn't. My Buddy is an 09 125, don't get it. Do you still want to see a picture of my headlight for some reason?
Seeing the headlight would help determine whether your bike is really a 2009, or a 2006 (possibly unused-but-old stock when you bought it).
i would think looking at the scoot's title would tell you the year of the scoot, regardless of when it was bought.

Title says 09

SonnyD · Post by **SonnyD** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:36 pm

I've seen a bunch of new ones that don't have it either.......???

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:38 pm

Dude...we're trying to help...post a pic of your headlight. You would be amazed at how many bikes are registered by the wrong year.

This is the first I have ever heard of a Buddy other than an 06 not having an outlet.

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:52 pm

BuddyRaton wrote:Dude...we're trying to help...post a pic of your headlight. You would be amazed at how many bikes are registered by the wrong year.

This is the first I have ever heard of a Buddy other than an 06 not having an outlet.

FWIW - I just checked our fleet of Buddies

Cream 2007 Buddy 125 has outlet
Sea Foam 2009 Buddy 125 has outlet
Black 2009 Buddy 50 has outlet
Black 2009 Blackjack has outlet
Black 2012 Psycho has outlet

Sunset 2006 Buddy 125 does not have outlet

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:56 pm

Pick out the 2006...
(without referring back to my previous post)

DKAudio · Post by **DKAudio** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:58 pm

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Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:01 pm

DKAudio wrote: Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Looks like a 2007 or later..... (at least the headset)

Show us a pic of the back side of the head set/utility pocket.

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:08 pm

You can see the outlet in this pic.
In the upper left corner with the cover on. (Cover says 12V)

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:17 pm

Christophers wrote:Pick out the 2006...
(without referring back to my previous post)

Sunset (retired color)
Headlight
Matching panel color
Looks like brown seat
Short stem mirrors

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:19 pm

Also you can check the variator case cover.

06 said PGO later were printed with Genuine

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:36 pm

Tough to tell...I keep going back and forth. Can you find the mfg date?

Black Jack

06

Definately after market mirrors. Maybe changed headset? Often cracked if dropped.

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:51 pm

BuddyRaton wrote:Tough to tell...It does look like 06. Can you find the mfg date?

No way - That headlight is clearly an '07 or later.

And, yes, Sunset buddy is the '06 in my pic.

LOVE the short stem mirrors! Perfect for urban riding.

Throwback7R · Post by **Throwback7R** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:28 pm

Better make sure the Vin matches! pull the square panel in front of your shins

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:05 pm

Throwback7R wrote:Better make sure the Vin matches! pull the square panel in front of your shins

I was thinking the same thing... pondering if the headset had been switched.

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:20 pm

Christophers wrote:
Throwback7R wrote:Better make sure the Vin matches! pull the square panel in front of your shins
I was thinking the same thing... pondering if the headset had been switched.

I was wondering that too but usually it's just the top that gets cracked when dropped.

And yeah...the short stems were the giveaway!

I have one spare. One of the originals had a bad cast and broke.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:08 pm

Plug the VIN FROM THE VEHICLE (not from the title) into vindecoder.net to make sure it's a 2009.

lovemysan · Post by **lovemysan** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:24 pm

Okay he posted a pic if his headlight. Now someone needs to post a picture of the front wiring so he can compare the contents.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:15 am

If for some reason the headset and headlight are from a 2007+ and the body indeed has no charger jack (usually means 2006), it might be a first in-the-wild BuddyBodge.

SonnyD, where'd you see 'new' ones with no jack?

Hey, DK, you buy this thing new / 0mi?

SonnyD · Post by **SonnyD** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:38 am

At the local Genuine dealer......Maybe I'm just being blind, but I know where they are located...but I swear I've seen some without it....do the 50's have it too????

SonnyD · Post by **SonnyD** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:41 am

It has the Clear markers too....isn't 06 last year for amber? I know mine is an 06, small headlight, no charger, PGO on the variator cover, amber deadlights...Title, LOL

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:49 am

Not sure about the amber but wouldn't be surprised if it was 06 only.

Damn...we know way too much stupid stuff about these things!

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:34 am

I have a picture of both sides in this thread (see picture 19/20, and the picture following that as well), if it helps.

In picture 19 it's the item on the top right.

I have owned three 2008 and 2009 Buddy 125s, and all had the 12-volt outlet come standard. Weird that one of either of those years would come with out it...

agrogod · Post by **agrogod** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:25 am

If your handy and like to do small projects....

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TVB · Post by **TVB** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:29 am

SonnyD wrote:At the local Genuine dealer......Maybe I'm just being blind, but I know where they are located...but I swear I've seen some without it....do the 50's have it too????

Yes. (Mine's a 2009.)

DKAudio · Post by **DKAudio** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:40 pm

I bought this early 2012 used.

The variator cover has the Genuine Scooter Company logo.

I replaced the mirrors with some Ebay ones after the stock ones started dangling and got loose.

I checked the stem VIN and put it in vindecoder, 2009 origin Taiwan Provence of China (Asia).

There isn't even a knockout in the plastic molding for a charger outlet, it is smooth.

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:03 pm

DKAudio wrote:There isn't even a knockout in the plastic molding for a charger outlet, it is smooth.

Can you post a pic of this?

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:15 pm

Man, that's weird. It's almost like someone replaced the back legshield plastic with an 06 piece that didn't have the socket. But maybe I'm hearing hoofbeats and thinking zebras instead of horses. No taped-off or otherwise hidden wiring on the opposite side under the front nose, you say?

This thread is really the first I've heard where a post-06 doesn't have a socket. If indeed the scoot isn't a FrankenBodge with some pre-07 parts, then somehow it snuck in from PGO without a socket.

DKAudio · Post by **DKAudio** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:32 pm

Here is a pic. I replaced the screw because the stock one was stripped. I remember taking off the front plastic and looking for wiring for the charger and I did not see any.

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Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:20 pm

Not to further the zebra/unicorn hunt, but there's a chance the wiring harness for the charger was removed, too.
I took mine off because I use the knockout hole to route the wires for my heated grip controller. The wiring harness for the charging socket just connects with a molded plastic connector.

agrogod · Post by **agrogod** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:44 am

Did a little investigating and it seems that some overseas models of the PGO scooters don't come with charger ports. Is there a possibility that this was a direct import? Or one of the Taiwan models (intended for Taiwan) got into a US consignment? Just throwing some ideas against the the wall to see what sticks.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:17 am

Yep, even with the Genuine trans cover. Go figure.

SonnyD · Post by **SonnyD** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:03 am

I'm going to the dealer tomorrow and check again....I swear I've seen them without it......

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:18 am

Well, here's the 2013 catalog that clearly calls out that the 125s come with 12-volt outlet. If you can find a copy of the 2012 catalog, which likely mentions the same, you could take it to your dealer and maybe get them to add one for you.

The Genuine website does not mention anything about the 12-volt outlet that I can see....other than in the catalog.

agrogod · Post by **agrogod** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:26 am

2012 Cat

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:09 am

It's in the 2012 catalog--I'd think armed with that, you should be set to have your dealer install 12-volt outlet for you!

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:12 am

Yeah, but isn't the scoot a 2009?

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:30 am

PeteH wrote:Yeah, but isn't the scoot a 2009?

Allegedly, yes.

I would like to pose a question to the Buddy owning members of the MB community: How many others own a 2007+ model Buddy 50/125/150/170i that does not have a 12V charger?

This is the first example I know of - pending confirmation of SonnyD's sighting of new model year Buddy 170i's not having one either.

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:59 am

DOH! Not sure how I got it in my head it was a 2012....

TVB · Post by **TVB** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:10 pm

michelle_7728 wrote:DOH! Not sure how I got it in my head it was a 2012....

He bought it (used) in 2012.

SonnyD · Post by **SonnyD** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:46 pm

Well, I was wrong! I looks at 12-15 new Buddy's sitting on the floor and ever one of them had the outlet on them. So I ordered one for my 06. Well it's good to know, guess we are back to the "mystery"

DKAudio · Post by **DKAudio** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:12 pm

hmm, not sure what to say at this point. Mine is clearly a 2009 after you guys had me validate it. Like I said though, I didn't even see wiring for it behind the front plastic.

SonnyD · Post by **SonnyD** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:41 pm

Maybe the original owner messed up the inner cover and replace it...with an older one that didn't have a cutout, like my 06....and just removed the socket so it would rattle around and or short out??? Just a thought....and since you said the stock screw was stripped...maybe coincidence maybe not..

SonnyD · Post by **SonnyD** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:44 pm

Maybe the original owner messed up the inner cover and replace it...with an older one that didn't have a cutout, like my 06....and just removed the socket so it would rattle around and or short out??? Just a thought....