Considering buying brand new Rattler 110 from dealer..
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Considering buying brand new Rattler 110 from dealer..
They offered me a $1900 OTD price on a leftover 2009. KBB lists the 2009 to retail at $1665.
Being discontinued by PGO and Genuine, I'm nervous about purchasing a bike that might drive me nuts to find any parts for the 2t motor.
This would be my 2nd Rattler, I had one in 2008, but sold it due to storage issues--my rock-solid reliable turtle Ruckus had seniority and is still with me.
Any thoughts on future part issues? I don't want to wait 4 months for a vital engine part, gasket or a simple filter.
Being discontinued by PGO and Genuine, I'm nervous about purchasing a bike that might drive me nuts to find any parts for the 2t motor.
This would be my 2nd Rattler, I had one in 2008, but sold it due to storage issues--my rock-solid reliable turtle Ruckus had seniority and is still with me.
Any thoughts on future part issues? I don't want to wait 4 months for a vital engine part, gasket or a simple filter.
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Far from the 1st scooter I have ever owned--likely far from the last. I just don't want to invest anything over a mortgage payment into something that will cost me crazy hours to simply find something such as a crank bearing for this niche/discontinued motor.
Still very tempted, but cautious.
Still very tempted, but cautious.
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http://www.scooterloungeonline.com/rattler110crankcaseHugo wrote: such as a crank bearing for this niche/discontinued motor.
Still very tempted, but cautious.
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I see that many smaller parts are available on the link, but things such as right and left crank case are omitted. Makes me think that I'd have to contact somebody in Taiwan for a used case, should it split, hypothetically speaking.
I'm just concerned that not everything for the Rattler 110 will be available, and I'm pretty sure that it will dry up before time of need.
I'm not sure how popular this 110cc 2t motor is, or how long it has been out.
Something like a 49cc horizontal Minerelli would have part replacement probably long after I'm dead (ex: Malossi/Polini), for it has been an established motor.
I'm just concerned that not everything for the Rattler 110 will be available, and I'm pretty sure that it will dry up before time of need.
I'm not sure how popular this 110cc 2t motor is, or how long it has been out.
Something like a 49cc horizontal Minerelli would have part replacement probably long after I'm dead (ex: Malossi/Polini), for it has been an established motor.
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"not everything" is available for pretty much any vehicle ever made; unless it is something like an old VW or MGB.
You won't have to worry about replacing the left crankcase until you have 20,000 miles or more on it, and probably not even then.
I think that if the price is right and you want it, buy it. (If it were near where I live I'd love to have it.) Parts support is good, and much better than for many other scooters.
You won't have to worry about replacing the left crankcase until you have 20,000 miles or more on it, and probably not even then.
I think that if the price is right and you want it, buy it. (If it were near where I live I'd love to have it.) Parts support is good, and much better than for many other scooters.
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Good point. I'll kick it around.SuperCyclone.81 wrote:Definitely go for it. Like stated above, you can get parts in multiple places. Even in the worst case, you could always swap the 110 for the regular 49 RH motor.
I used to own a 2006 Piaggio typhoon 50 which I modified 70cc (boy I miss that bike). When that stopped being imported into the USA, I had no worries, because Piaggio (the GM of Europe) used that motor on many other models around the world--not to mention what Malossi and Polini has to offer.
The Rattler 110 concerned me, due to the fact that PGO is the only limited source for major replacement parts. Should the rear wheel warp from these Boston potholes, scooter lounge doesn't have the actual part # listed.
I'm currently bouncing between the Rattler or finding a used 49cc 2t to modify. My old Typhoon used to pin the speedo (60+) with the Malossi mods installed.
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That sounds pretty impressive, and if the stock wheels are half as hard to find as aftermarket replacements, you'll be up a creek. The buck 10's have a 12in in the front and a 10 in the back and I've looked around and contacted Genuine more than a couple times about finding a 12in rear with no luck...