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I had so much trouble getting someone to mount the tires I decided to give up and sell the wheels. I'm just going to stick with the SIP performer tires and TT wheels. No shops I went to were even able to remove the tires let alone mount the new ones! I wrestled around trying to mount by hand watching the SIP video and using tons of WD-40 and I still couldn't get it on there. Anyone else have this issue or I am really nuts? No offense taken if I'm nuts, I've been told that before.

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Have you tried a motorcycle shop? They have wheel mounting machines.
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I've just put a new rear tire on my SIP rim. Aside from me not being very smart/experienced on doing it, it did go on.

But yeah, I'd try a motorcycle shop if the regular car places won't do it.
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Tubeless retrofit wheels are a pain, yes. It takes the right pair of hands and a bit of tire lube to get them on. Also motion pro rim shields.
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Totally worth it in my opinion. It's like a whole new machine.
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What makes tubeless rims ride better than tube type split rims?
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Safety of not having the possibility of blowouts and less rotational mass.
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ArgonV wrote:What makes tubeless rims ride better than tube type split rims?
You can run tires rated to 93 mph.

I have the SIP tubeless and yes they can be a pain. On CBR 2016 I ran F.A. Italia split rim tubeless. They freaking rock! Changing a tire from the rim is faster than a tubed split rim. I would say 10 minutes from start to finish and that includes the chatting with everyone that had never seen the split tubeless.
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ArgonV wrote:What makes tubeless rims ride better than tube type split rims?
To me, it handles much better. Feels more solid and in control. Maybe less flex?
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They work far better, and less chance of a blowout.

Not to be a jerk, but there is NO WAY you took this to a local motorcycle/scooter shop. They are BUTTER to change tires on.
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BigDaddy SnakeOiler wrote:
ArgonV wrote:What makes tubeless rims ride better than tube type split rims?
To me, it handles much better. Feels more solid and in control. Maybe less flex?
That is probably due more to the tire than the rim. Pressure is pressure...there will be no more or less "flex" with a tire that has a tube in it than a tubeless as long as proper pressure is used.
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Stock rim is a 2,10-10. SIP makes a 2.50-10 that allows you to properly run a 100/90-10. a MUCH better size tire and they fit.

That being said they make the 2.10-10 too; as well as a 3.00, but that gets a goofy offset.

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viney266 wrote:Stock rim is a 2,10-10. SIP makes a 2.50-10 that allows you to properly run a 100/90-10. a MUCH better size tire and they fit.
Do you have a 2 or 4t? A real 100/90 is a tad too wide for a 4T.
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Actually viney266, I did take them to two different shops. Youngstown Cycle Supply, and Cycle Motion in Unity, OH. One shop flat out told me no way, they wouldn't touch it (YCS). Another said it didn't fit on their machine, so they put them on with irons.

Turned out I used the wrong size tire width for a 4T and when they got hot they rubbed the crap out of the oil filter cover. So then I tried getting them removed. Same shop who put them on couldn't get them off and I ended up cutting em off with a saw blade out of frustration. Whatever....you guys change judge me all you want or write me off as an idiot but I have changed dirt bike tires and the like before and had no issues. These freaking things were swimming in tire lube and still no go. I wasn't about to destroy the wheels. I give up. Glad they worked for you
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Cycle Gear is a national chain shop. See if there is one near you.
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Wow, I've been changing two wheeled tires for 31 years. I have never had to sawzall one off yet. I guess I am better than I thought. I need to start charging more ;)

Yes, I should have been clear. The 100/90 on a 2.50 rim fits fine on a 2 T, but the 4T is a little tight on the case. It is doable, but easier to stay stock with the 2.10-10 and the 3.50-10.
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My local shop has been trying to talk me into going tubeless for the last 3 tires. Having watched them change both, the tubeless was a 5 minute job, and the tube, well, it depends if I count the swearing time or the rubber mallet time.
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