Help! Scoot Newb! Buddy 50 flooding (carb) issues?

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Bob Loblaw
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Help! Scoot Newb! Buddy 50 flooding (carb) issues?

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Hi everyone.

Awesome website.
Long time Lurker.

Roommate has a few buddys so I just bought one used.

2009 Buddy 50. 5,000 milesish.

I've searched and searched and read the FAQ's but am at an impasse.

Had a new plug and the carb serviced just maybe 30 miles ago and ran fine.
Gas is fresh.
That little thing above the license plate holder like a Check Valve? Was also replaced.
Battery is new and charged fully.


Last few times if it didn't start immediately (1st try) and let off the starter button before it would start then it wouldn't start at all and felt like it was flooded. Next day would start right back up.

OCCASionally it would fell a teeny bit bogged down right at about 30 mph but then would pull through.

Now today it stopped running after a 1 mile ride.

Got it to start with a combination of airbox cover off/ Carb Clean spray into the carb and full throttle open while cranking.

Would start when on center stand and idle. Would also rev and spin rear tire.
The second it came off the stand it wouldnt rev anymore and would even kill the motor at idle.
Putting the air cover on while on stand would also kill motor.

I can probably check the plug myself but am getting close to my mechanical limitations!!

ANY help or guidance would be super-duper appreciated in advance!

Thank you!!!

Bob Loblaw (not my real name :)
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Post by DeeDee »

Did you just fill up before it died? Is your fuel cap drilled?
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Post by babblefish »

If it will run without the air cleaner cover, then it sounds like the engine's running too rich. Maybe check the float level, or maybe check for dirt on the float needle preventing the fuel from shutting off in the float bowl correctly.
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Post by Bob Loblaw »

DeeDee wrote:Did you just fill up before it died? Is your fuel cap drilled?
I did put a half gallon of gas in the day it died but the other problems were there the last few weeks.

Cap is not drilled. Should it be?
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Post by Bob Loblaw »

I appreciate the replies!

So I finally got the front spark plug cover off and checked plug it seemed fine. The last mechanic said he put in a hotter plug. It was an NGK and had the number 6 in it instead of the 7 that should be in.

Got the seat off also and am trying to get familiar with the carbs and lines. I found the idle adjustment.

Couldn't find which was the air/fuel screw.

I found the service manual online but it doesn't really have a diagram.

Any pointers on where to look?

Should I maybe get one of the 20.00 carbs on amazon rather than troubleshoot this one?
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