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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:13 pm    Post subject: Genuine Motor Oil is here Reply with quote

I got an email today from Genuine Motors informing me that they have now put out their own brand of Genuine motor oils for Genuine scooters and motorcycles. The oil products are made in the USA and are available at Genuine dealers. They have 15W-40 Full Synthetic, 85W140 Gear Oil, a Synthetic 2 Stroke, and
10W40MA-2 for wet clutch motorcycle G400c. I don't know the prices but I think this may ease the worry of a lot of new owners about which oils to use.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea on Genuine's part.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you get on Genuine's mailing list? I'm feeling left out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tenders. Am not positive how I got on the list, but am thinking it's because I once emailed them questions about CVT size.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes me wonder whose oil they are re-badging.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gives me a good excuse to stop by my local Genuine dealer.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What with all the counterfeit stuff coming from China, how do you know if your Genuine oil is genuine? Because it says so on the bottle?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything is possible. The Chinese could be selling counterfeit Starbucks coffee. It wouldn't be very profitable, since they dont produce oil or coffee.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wheelbender6 wrote:
Anything is possible. The Chinese could be selling counterfeit Starbucks coffee. It wouldn't be very profitable, since they dont produce oil or coffee.

Actually, China does produce coffee. It is grown in Hunan Province in the South of the Country.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will have to try some of that Hunan coffee. China town is only 5 miles or so from where I live during the work week.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I trust Genuine.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got the notification email today. Does anyone know what Genuine's prices will be?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-Motor-Oil-C1043.aspx

All you need to know is right here. Prices, etc etc etc.

For Alzero,
I may be old and blind, but I spy with my little eye a made in usa stamp right on the front of the bottle.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn’t directly comparable due to shipping terms, but $10 a quart is half of what I paid a few weeks ago for Motul FD 2T oil on Amazon Prime.

EDIT: I don’t understand the Scooterworks tagline, “there’s oil in every bottle!” Is that some hipster cultural reference? It just sounds dumb to me...as if an intern were faced with a box saying “add text here.”
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are simply looking for a good price on quality oil with the right specs, I'd suggest full synthetic Shell Rotella T6 by the gallon.

https://www.amazon.com/Shell-Rotella-Synthetic-1-Gallon-Single-Pack/dp/B01LH7L0KS
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tenders wrote:
It isn’t directly comparable due to shipping terms, but $10 a quart is half of what I paid a few weeks ago for Motul FD 2T oil on Amazon Prime.

EDIT: I don’t understand the Scooterworks tagline, “there’s oil in every bottle!” Is that some hipster cultural reference? It just sounds dumb to me...as if an intern were faced with a box saying “add text here.”


It's probably a preemptive legal maneuver to avoid lawsuits by niche collectors of empty oil bottles. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dooglas wrote:
If you are simply looking for a good price on quality oil with the right specs, I'd suggest full synthetic Shell Rotella T6 by the gallon.

https://www.amazon.com/Shell-Rotella-Synthetic-1-Gallon-Single-Pack/dp/B01LH7L0KS


Yes! Also available in 15W-40 full synthetic, at Walmart.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stanza wrote:
https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-Motor-Oil-C1043.aspx

All you need to know is right here. Prices, etc etc etc.

For Alzero,
I may be old and blind, but I spy with my little eye a made in usa stamp right on the front of the bottle.


Thanks. Page bookmarked!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:05 am    Post subject: genuine oil Reply with quote

Keep in mind the Rotella t-6 oil mentioned is only for the 4 stroke scooters not the earlier 2-t Stella 2 strokes...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BuddyRaton wrote:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was a smart move by Genuine to put out oil with their name on it.

I would like to see them sell it by the gallon or offer a discount if you buy it by the case. But I also ride a lot more than most people.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be using this oil from here on. Interesting that it's a 15W-40 weight with friction modifiers. To my knowledge no one else makes that. Heaviest weight I've seen with friction modifiers is 10W-30. Not that this will give me a noticeable power gain but maybe a bit less wear over the years. Also fully synthetic which is all I use in my cars & motorcycles after break in.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't all oil a "friction modifier"? Highly doubt the supreme buying power of Genuine Scooters managed to commission an exclusive oil product beyond a custom-printed bottle.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_modifier
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All engine oils have those additives. The Wikipedia article cites research from 1922.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to avoid oil threads, but here goes.

No friction modifiers in engine oils specific to motorcycles. The engine oil is shared with the clutch for those bikes with wet clutches. There are a few motorcycles with dry clutches, but the vast majority are wet.

If there are friction modifiers in the oil, the clutch plates will slip and won't lock. Not good.

Friction modifiers are not an issue for most modern scooters, like Genuine. I use motorcycle specific oil or Shell Rotella T6 (JASO/MA rated) for all the bikes. That way I reduce the chances of using the wrong oil, should I have a brain fart.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 15w-40 has "reduced friction modifiers," this oil is for 4 cycle scooters that call for JASO MB. The 10w-40 does not claim to have any friction modifiers, this oil is for motorcycles with wet clutches like the G400C that call for JASO MA2 oil.



From the Scooterworks website-
15w-40- "Your automatic scooter does not require the friction allowed by conventional MA oils- you don't have clutch plates that need to grab. With this in mind, MB oil is formulated with reduced friction modifiers. This reduces the heat generated by your engine while increasing your engine's longevity and fuel economy."
https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-4T-Motor-Oil-15W40-Full-Synthetic-MB-1-Quart-P14211.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3-zklfCw6AIVko3ICh1iCQ7xEAQYBSABEgJj1_D_BwE


10w-40 - https://www.scooterworks.com/Genuine-4T-Motor-Oil-10W40-Full-Synthetic-MA-2-1-Quart-P14210.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3-zklfCw6AIVko3ICh1iCQ7xEAQYAiABEgLBWPD_BwE
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HowHH wrote:
I try to avoid oil threads, but here goes.

There are a few motorcycles with dry clutches, but the vast majority are wet.

If there are friction modifiers in the oil, the clutch plates will slip and won't lock. Not good.


I really really avoid oil threads but WTF. These are scooters. The only wet clutches are in the 2T Stella's in a different part of MB.

CVTs have dry external clutches with shoes. No plates, no corks, so no clue what this has to do with anything regarding engine oil.

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