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BennyBen
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:22 pm    Post subject: White sidewall tires? Reply with quote

Hi any one has painted the sidewall of the tires? Success ? I want to get the vintage look as much as possible.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$35 each: https://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-tires/shinko-sr550-scooter-tire/p/13868?b=1633978&gclid=Cj0KCQjwg8n5BRCdARIsALxKb95Ba7LWhf0_4JNuQi-WmHUJWNCX8d961fvRDDDmh0AJEXuPz2DmxUUaAvvgEALw_wcB
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve been running these on my Buddy 150 for quite a few years now and been quite happy....

https://www.scooterworks.com/Prima-Tire-Whitewall-10090-10-P365.aspx

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP has a 50cc so this might be about the only option* - https://www.scooterworks.com/Prima-Tire-Whitewall-30-x-10-Genuine-Bud-50-Buddy-Kick-P13213.aspx


I haven't tried it but some companies do make paint for painting on whitewalls - https://www.rangerpaint.com/products/white-sidewall



*After a quick search it seems like most 90/90-10 and 3.00-10 whitewall tire are tube tires.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeeDee wrote:
$35 each: https://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-tires/shinko-sr550-scooter-tire/p/13868?b=1633978&gclid=Cj0KCQjwg8n5BRCdARIsALxKb95Ba7LWhf0_4JNuQi-WmHUJWNCX8d961fvRDDDmh0AJEXuPz2DmxUUaAvvgEALw_wcB


I hated those tires.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is unfortunate that available whitewall tires which fit the Buddy are not particularly good quality. If I had to have whitewalls, I'm with ScootERIK - I'd experiment with white sidewall paint.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not have considered tire paint until you brought this up. I have new tires on my new scooter so I'm not about to buy new ones, and new tires on one motorcycle. I just ordered this. With shipping it it $24.42. I hope it works! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's for the lack of a good quality whitewall tire I abandoned the classic look on my 2009 Italia. Went with the Michelin S1 blackwall tires instead. Am very happy with them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my white walls but keeping them clean is no easy task. Wire brush and white wall cleaner spray is an usual occurence. I assume if you painted them regardless of how good the product is it wouldn't last too long with the amount of times you have to clean them with a wire brush.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

srbbnd wrote:
I love my white walls but keeping them clean is no easy task. Wire brush and white wall cleaner spray is an usual occurence. I assume if you painted them regardless of how good the product is it wouldn't last too long with the amount of times you have to clean them with a wire brush.


I never assume. I'm more of a skeptic. I need proof. That said I am empirically testing the hypothesis. They recommend two coats. This is what one coat looks like.

Also, I've had whitewalls before and NEVER needed more than soap and water to clean them. I certainly wouldn't use a wire brush on a tire!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prima whitewalls are fine, ignore all of the “knee dragging” bull...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

olhogrider wrote:
srbbnd wrote:
I love my white walls but keeping them clean is no easy task. Wire brush and white wall cleaner spray is an usual occurence. I assume if you painted them regardless of how good the product is it wouldn't last too long with the amount of times you have to clean them with a wire brush.


I never assume. I'm more of a skeptic. I need proof. That said I am empirically testing the hypothesis. They recommend two coats. This is what one coat looks like.

Also, I've had whitewalls before and NEVER needed more than soap and water to clean them. I certainly wouldn't use a wire brush on a tire!

Nice! Keep us posted on how the paint holds up.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed let us know how the paint last.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moyesdriver wrote:
Prima whitewalls are fine, ignore all of the “knee dragging” bull...



Shinko makes a 3.50-10 tubeless whitewall with a classic tread pattern for about $35. I've never used SR550 tire but I have used Shinko tires for other motorcycles and a scooter. I think they are excellent tires and universally have great reviews but for some reason some Genuine Buddy riders don't like them. Maybe the knee draggers riding a Buddy on track day at triple digit speeds?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNWbuddy wrote:
Shinko makes a 3.50-10 tubeless whitewall with a classic treat pattern for about $35. I've never used SR550 tire but I have used Shinko tires for other motorcycles and a scooter. I think they are excellent tires and universally have great reviews but for some reason some Genuine Buddy riders don't like them.


My theory on tires and Buddies- The Buddy 125/150/170 have really short wheelbases and fairly steep rake which makes for very quick handling scooters. But that comes with some twitchyness at times. I think that makes for a scooter that is a little more sensitive to tire choice. A tire that is good on other scooters might not be good on a Buddy.


Plus, you are more likely to hear from people with bad experiences than people with good experiences.


*At some point I will probably test a Shinko tire out just to see how my experience compares to others. But for right now I am really liking the Pirelli Angel 3.50-10.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I can honestly say the whitewall paint was a flop. It turned yellow within 2 days and now it is starting to peel. It looks pretty bad.

Yes, I read the directions, prepped accordingly and it was gorgeous. For 2 days.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, no problem. You just need to repaint them every 2 days Confused - or make due with blackwalls.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

olhogrider wrote:
Well I can honestly say the whitewall paint was a flop. It turned yellow within 2 days and now it is starting to peel. It looks pretty bad.

Yes, I read the directions, prepped accordingly and it was gorgeous. For 2 days.


Just a guess, scooter tires flex more than car tires and the paint probably can't handle that.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eggsalad wrote:
olhogrider wrote:
Well I can honestly say the whitewall paint was a flop. It turned yellow within 2 days and now it is starting to peel. It looks pretty bad.

Yes, I read the directions, prepped accordingly and it was gorgeous. For 2 days.


Just a guess, scooter tires flex more than car tires and the paint probably can't handle that.

And yet there are whitewall scooter tires. I just think the paint is a poor substitute for the real thing.
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