breaking scooter in by idling

bjj4287 · Post by **bjj4287** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:46 pm

would it be ok to break it in by idling it.. plus riding it .. but mainly idling it

Eazy · Post by **Eazy** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:48 pm

No,

It needs to have load on it for the rings to seat.

More importantly, Why?

bjj4287 · Post by **bjj4287** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:49 pm

it was a suggestion from someone... i thought it was kinda dumb too

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:49 pm

my theory on breaking in is, break it in like you are gonna ride it...

HARD

bjj4287 · Post by **bjj4287** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:52 pm

so wat is the best way to break it in?

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:55 pm

this is a bit of a controvesial issue,

I will refer you to this thread...

viewtopic.php?t=3933&highlight=break

Eazy · Post by **Eazy** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:03 pm

MikieTaps wrote:my theory on breaking in is, break it in like you are gonna ride it...

HARD

But not too hard.

Definitely harder than it recommends though.

BGK · Post by **BGK** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:25 am

bjj4287 wrote:would it be ok to break it in by idling it.. plus riding it .. but mainly idling it

Breaking in voodoo is sacred to those that hold it sacred. It is different from 2 strokes to 4 strokes but people repeat what they've heard as if they are the same. Lots of misinformation out there. For most modern scooters you can ride them how ever you'd like right out of the crate with little to no ill effect. But there are the rare cases of someone beating on their scoot straight from the shop and have it fail soon after.

For several rebuilt moderately tuned 2 stroke scooters I've broken in I've done the idle method. I get it up to temp idling a bit high for about 15 minutes. Then I shut it off for about 20 minutes or so (until I can touch the exhaust where it comes off the cylinder. Then repeat 3 times. Never had a problem with that method. Afterwards I'd take it easy (staying away from sustained full throttle) for about 1 tank of gas then ran however I liked. I've never broken in a new 4 stroke.

ScootLemont · Post by **ScootLemont** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:44 am

bjj4287 wrote:so wat is the best way to break it in?

Next you will want to know what kind of gas to use....

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:45 am

ScootLemont wrote:
bjj4287 wrote:so wat is the best way to break it in?
Next you will want to know what kind of gas to use....

Windshield Gas? or 10 gram Gas?

ScootLemont · Post by **ScootLemont** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:49 am

here we go again

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:53 am

ScootLemont wrote:here we go again

WHY RED IS RED!

ScootLemont · Post by **ScootLemont** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:18 am

BuddyRaton wrote:The deadlight thread!

topic576.html

The half throttle thread!

viewtopic.php?t=387&highlight=

The Break in thread! With first serviceinfo (one of many)
viewtopic.php?t=3933&highlight=first+service

And just because I can predict the future!

The oil change thread!

topic76.html

The most important thing to remember is

WHY RED IS RED!

BuddyRaton: you should just copy paste this

bjj4287 - this not a slam... it's just fun to see people walking in with similar questions
Welcome to the scoot club & have fun

FYI - I tried real hard to follow the break in rules... but have failed - I do try to vary my throttle position... I dont really know if it helps or not, but I assume it cant be bad.

Good luck

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:51 am

Idling just waste gasoline, it doesnt help those piston rings seal.

BGK · Post by **BGK** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:12 am

jfrost2 wrote:Idling just waste gasoline, it doesnt help those piston rings seal.

What forces seal them? Specifically, what forces under load versus at idle? Is engine temperature irrelevent? If an engine reaches temp X under load and at idle, what is the difference? What about torque about the crank shaft and linear forces on the connecting rod translate to the rings differently under load?

kazoo · Post by **kazoo** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:33 am

You probably can't go wrong by driving it like it was yours.

Kaz

DennisD · Post by **DennisD** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:40 am

In town at red light - idle.
Green light - full throttle.
Next red light - idle.
Green light - full throttle.
Next red light - idle.

Before you know it, you're using WOT all the time with no problem.
See, that was easy.

The most critical aspect is type of oil used in first 2000 miles.

I plan to use only dino 20W50 and change oil and filter every 500 miles. A quart of oil is still cheap and I'm researching filters to find one at a parts house.

I'll let you know how it turns out.

Dennis

Modern Buddy

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