Buddy 170!

bosco · Post by **bosco** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:15 pm

fuel injected for 2011

Silver Two-tone brown British racing green

they look awesome and will be fuel injected!

They are not here yet, will be soon.

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:19 pm

changjoe · Post by **changjoe** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:29 pm

Those are nice looking!
And I just bought my Buddy 150...

MYSCTR · Post by **MYSCTR** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:55 pm

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That is what I am talking about!

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Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:03 pm

Carumba!

jijifer · Post by **jijifer** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:08 pm

fuel-injected means no jet, right? is this really a 161?

bosco · Post by **bosco** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:11 pm

jijifer wrote:fuel-injected means no jet, right? is this really a 161?

yep no carb equals no jet. And bigger displacement. you are correct on both accounts

Quo Vadimus · Post by **Quo Vadimus** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:16 pm

I hereby petition that posts which have a high probability of keeping me up at night and endangering my financial well-being come with a warning. There is NO ROOM in my garage and NO MONEY in my bank account.

The brown. So pretty. So... precious...

Post by **jrsjr** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:42 pm

British Racing Green! Tan Seat!! Racing Stripe!!! FI!!!! 170cc!!!!! Did they build the Buddy of my dreams, or whats?!?

bigbropgo · Post by **bigbropgo** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:43 pm

I know it has been mentioned that with the Stella, the 2t would be phased out. Just wondering if this will add to or replace the buddy lineup. I'd like to pick up a black Jack eventually. I can handle the "buddy classic " price tag. But probably not the Nü school buddy's. Really cool though. Didn't know it was in the works. Where did the info come from?

superseagulls · Post by **superseagulls** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:48 pm

Wow! Some nice color options!
I was considering the 4T Stella in cream for next year, but the Green or the white would be a beautiful addition to my garage!

MYSCTR · Post by **MYSCTR** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:59 pm

I am thinking the Internationals are going away - or at least heard the St Tropaz is meaning we (St Trpoaz owners) belong to a very special club - can't get them anymore!

Will be cool to watch over then next few weeks or months to find out!

HowHH · Post by **HowHH** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:19 am

Zoom! Zoom!l

With 170cc and EFI the Buddy will be a truly kick a$$ stealth scooter. Pull up to a stop light in what looks like a cute, little, harmless scoot ...... Well, you'll have trouble wiping that big grin of satisfaction off your face as you pull away.

wifiducky · Post by **wifiducky** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:37 am

jrsjr wrote:

British Racing Green! Tan Seat!! Racing Stripe!!! FI!!!! 170cc!!!!! Did they build the Buddy of my dreams, or whats?!?

same here me want <3 i wonder what the price will be

Post by **ericalm** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:04 am

Bosco beat me to it!

Yayyyuhhhh… These are going to kick ass.

addictionriot · Post by **addictionriot** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:11 am

want!

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:33 am

still in

from my first post

and yeah, the brown is gonna rock!

bosco · Post by **bosco** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:33 am

wifiducky wrote:
jrsjr wrote:

British Racing Green! Tan Seat!! Racing Stripe!!! FI!!!! 170cc!!!!! Did they build the Buddy of my dreams, or whats?!?
same here me want <3 i wonder what the price will be

at least right now the MSRP price looks like its slightly more than the current internationals.

$3299

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:34 am

does this mean the Blackjack is going away, or just getting the same upgrade?

pdxrita · Post by **pdxrita** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:44 am

Oh my gosh, I'm in love with the brown and the British Racing Green! I want, I want, I want!

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:53 am

Bah, old news! I said these were coming OVER a year ago, where have you all been?

bosco · Post by **bosco** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:55 am

JHScoot wrote:does this mean the Blackjack is going away, or just getting the same upgrade?

no word on current buddy changes but our friend the rattler may see its last days...

Stormswift · Post by **Stormswift** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:57 am

So can someone explain to non-mechanical individual (moi) what does "fuel injected means" and will there be a noticeable difference between a 150 cc engine and 170 cc engine. I mean if this was a 220/250 cc engine - that is a pretty significant difference

BootScootin'FireFighter · Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:59 am

great, just when I thought I was going to get my impulse buying under control, Genuine unveils this! I was convinced I'd ride the mothership into the ground, but a trade in might not be a bad idea.

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:13 am

Stormswift wrote:So can someone explain to non-mechanical individual (moi) what does "fuel injected means" and will there be a noticeable difference between a 150 cc engine and 170 cc engine. I mean if this was a 220/250 cc engine - that is a pretty significant difference

Fuel injection means that a computer controls the injection of fuel and adjusts based on things like temperature and air pressure, making for better throttle response, more power, and better fuel economy in all weather conditions vs a carburetor.

The 161cc kitted 125 is a noticeable improvement vs the 150, as is the 170cc kitted 150. So yes, it'll likely be a big difference.

Post by **jrsjr** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:29 am

Stormswift wrote:So can someone explain to non-mechanical individual (moi) what does "fuel injected means" and will there be a noticeable difference between a 150 cc engine and 170 cc engine. I mean if this was a 220/250 cc engine - that is a pretty significant difference

With a motor this small, every CC helps. Don't think CCs. Think percents. A 170 is 36 percent larger than a 125. When you look at it that way, it's pretty impressive isn't it?

About FI, here's my thing. The motor in a Buddy is so small that it's really important to squeeze every little bit of performance that you can out of it. Especially on a ride that involves an altitude change, FI (tries to) keep the motor running right by adjusting the fuel/air ratio on the fly. With a carb, you ride up a mountain road and the jetting is what it is. The FI system (should) try to adjust. When I rode my Vespa GT200 over 9000 feet, it made so little power that I was paddling with my feet to help the hamsters. You know what I mean? GT250ie (fuel injected) owners tell me they can blast over mountains without noticing any loss of power.

FI adds another layer of complexity and stuff that can fail, but carbs have their problems, too. The biggest downside for the VooDoo crowd will be that they won't be able to rejet easily, but IMHO that will be a worthwhile tradeoff for folks who just want to add a performance exhaust and don't want to fool with rejetting because the FI will adjust automatically.

Hope this helped.

Post by **ericalm** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:30 am

Kaos wrote:Bah, old news! I said these were coming OVER a year ago, where have you all been?

Complaining about the cruiser.

Keys · Post by **Keys** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:08 am

Kaos wrote:Bah, old news! I said these were coming OVER a year ago, where have you all been?

Home. Takin' a nap.

--Keys

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:19 am

jrsjr wrote: Did they build the Buddy of my dreams, or what?!?

Well, yeah! Works for me. Cappuccino dream! The scooter for Seattle.

jmkjr72 · Post by **jmkjr72** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:20 am

yeah it means no jet but it also means moding just got more expensive

bbk it you will proably need a bigger injector or a fuel controler or a custom map

then you need a bigger throttle body

heck you may even need a fuel controler with just a pipe not to mention you have to make sure you get a pipe with a o2 bung or have one welded in

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:24 am

jmkjr72 wrote:yeah it means no jet but it also means moding just got more expensive

Well, hey! They just modded it for you. You got more cc's and fuel injection. You wanta ride or you wanta tinker. You pick.

pugbuddy · Post by **pugbuddy** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:33 am

Ok, it's faster and quicker--correct?

Any ideas on a top speed? Is the Buddy really worth up-gunning to 80mph when you are still riding on 10" wheels? I rode my 125 through Texas and Illinois doing 60-65mph and many people thought that was crazy on "those small tires". Doesn't it get crazier to take off across the USA doing 70-80mph on the same size tires? Someone help me out here....

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:35 am

pugbuddy wrote:Ok, it's faster and quicker--correct?

Any ideas on a top speed? Is the Buddy really worth up-gunning to 80mph when you are still riding on 10" wheels? I rode my 125 through Texas and Illinois doing 60-65mph and many people thought that was crazy on "those small tires". Doesn't it get crazier to take off across the USA doing 70-80mph on the same size tires? Someone help me out here....

I'd guess if they use a fairly stock transmission, likely 67-70.
Honestly, I'm comfortable at 75 on my Buddy. Its not the ideal bike for it, but its not bad for short hops....

Beats the pants off doing 70 on my Vespa Super with 8" wheels

Quezzie · Post by **Quezzie** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:35 am

Ohhh audible gasp!

Don't tell my little 50 about these. Especially that green one.

rsrider · Post by **rsrider** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:11 am

Kaos wrote:Bah, old news! I said these were coming OVER a year ago, where have you all been?

In a van, down by the river.

the white one, the white one! Maybe by the time they hit the dealer floor, the scooter nazi will relent.

Glen G · Post by **Glen G** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:05 am

Photoshop, fake.

or not...

G

Post by **ericalm** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:09 am

Photoshopped, yes. But the injected 170 is real. woot!

Skootz Kabootz · Post by **Skootz Kabootz** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:20 am

How sweet is this! Man, I would love to have that additional 20cc for getting around. That should be enough to make the Buddy freeway ridable here in LA. And just the other day I was talking about how a silver Buddy would be really cool. Nice!

rollin thunder · Post by **rollin thunder** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:51 pm

Yes, I'm told the Blackjack has gone away. I guess I'll hang on to my black beauty and get the new Fuel injected babies.

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:18 pm

rollin thunder wrote:Yes, I'm told the Blackjack has gone away. I guess I'll hang on to my black beauty and get the new Fuel injected babies.

Really, where'd you hear that? I'd be surprised if they did, as popular as it is.... Though its predecessor, the Fireball Stella didn't last too long...

rollin thunder · Post by **rollin thunder** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:25 pm

My friend John at Moxies Scooters in Colleyville, Texas said they had been discontinued. They are an excellent shop for sales and service by the way. Highly recommend.

Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:25 pm

rollin thunder wrote:Yes, I'm told the Blackjack has gone away. I guess I'll hang on to my black beauty and get the new Fuel injected babies.

Nothing a few cans of black and gloss spray paint or a few screwdrivers (for a panel swap) can't fix.

I'm keeping an eye out for these things. They're just missing the NCY suspension. I do really like the new colors, photoshopped or not.

KABarash · Post by **KABarash** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:50 pm

OooooH Maaaaaan!!

They're GREAT looking!!

Keys · Post by **Keys** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:13 pm

pugbuddy wrote:I rode my 125 through Texas and Illinois doing 60-65mph and many people thought that was crazy on "those small tires".

Don't care what "people" think. Never have, never will. If it's good for me, it's good.

--Keys

Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:57 pm

ericalm wrote:Bosco beat me to it!

Yayyyuhhhh… These are going to kick ass.

So where does this info come from? 170cc's with FI would be pretty nice.

I have twins starting college next year so I can't really give serious consideration to a new scooter, but I've been dreaming of the 220i. I would love a bigger bike sometimes but still want excellent mpg's.
Also, some of the deals on very low mileage Ninjas have been tempting me

bosco · Post by **bosco** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:46 pm

So where does this info come from? 170cc's with FI would be pretty nice.

from Genuine.
it was sent to the dealers.

Should be on their website soon.

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:17 pm

bosco wrote:So where does this info come from? 170cc's with FI would be pretty nice.

from Genuine.
it was sent to the dealers.

Should be on their website soon.

They announced it dealers about 1.5 years ago, and then again recently.

pugbuddy · Post by **pugbuddy** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:50 pm

Forgot to ask: does this mean that Genuine has abandoned the "touring scooter" they were working on?

rajron · Post by **rajron** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:55 pm

British Racing Green, stripe, nice - fuel injected, larger cc, great?
White walls? maybe OK

pugbuddy · Post by **pugbuddy** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:00 pm

I wonder what the gas mileage will be like?

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