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Just about overdid it yesterday...

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So I like to make an adventure out out of going to Costco on my scooter. Every time I get everything packed for the ride home and think "Shoot, I could have gotten more on there!" (Yes, I freely admit that I have too much time on my hands.) :roll: However, I have to say that I get a lot of satisfaction out of seeing that although there is a parking lot full of cars, trucks, and SUVs, I'm there on a scooter, and am able to haul just as many items as many of them are in their cages.

Anyhow, this time I got home and Little Bit was so loaded down and heavy that I couldn't even get him onto his centerstand, even pushing down on the centerstand while pulling up on the rack.

Thank goodness Buddys have the side stand! Saved me from having to lean the scooter on the truck!

No cans were on the rear rack. In there I had the strawberries, bread and snap peas. Under the seat I had the 2 boxes of gum and the cans of peas. :P

...and no, we don't just eat canned food...I periodically stock up on stuff "just in case". :roll:

So now you know (those of you who didn't already know, that is) that you can carry a boatload of stuff on your scooter. :D

Anyone else with "Costco run" type pix they'd like to share?
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"EXCELLENT"

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see! whenever people say "well you can't do XYZ on a scooter...." Yes you can! it will just cost a lot in luggage and shock replacements :P.
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I plan on using my scooter for groceries and going to Soulard Market... I don't think I will go quite as gonzo as you (I live in a studio apartment... My scooter might hold all that stuff but my kitchen wouldn't). It's nice to know it can be done! Those huge over-the-top über SUVs just show a lack of discipline LOL. Next time I fly across the Atlantic I want you to help me pack... Long as you can keep it under 5lbs.
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This is great; I love it! I'm impressed with your keyed diagram of purchased items. And I really like your luggage! Do you have a link to where you purchased them?
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Just curious, do you know what the total weight of everything was?
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When I go shopping at Meijer* I use one of their mini shopping carts, which are essentially double-decker handbaskets on wheels. I've found that whatever fits in the cart will also fit in the scooter's milk crate + pet carrier + hook + my tactical bail-out bag.

*The location I go to was the original groceries-plus-everything store that Sam Walton copied for WalMart.
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i don't understand how can one ride like that? where do the feets go? what about balance?

arghhhhh noooo! :cry:

omg just noticed that poor rear tire being....squeezed so low :shock:
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You rock, I do shopping with my buddy but nothing like that!
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i just ride my scoot into the store and start hanging stuff from it

then i just ride on out :)
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much to my frustration I can"t resize and post the pic I took of one of my near records last summer. I put everything out on the table and snapped a pic and was able to document it all. I have a basket on the rear rack and hang cloth grocery and wine bags on the hooks and let them on the floor boards.

at risk of looking like I eat like King Henry VIII. here was my load:

4 bottles wine
1lb grd beef
1 lb lamb
1 lb pork
3 dozen eggs
1 lb bacon
2 ½ gallon almond milk
Quart ½ and ½
1 lb almonds
1 lb. butter
1 lb chorizo
2 cans tomato paste
12 oz tomato sauce
Shampoo-16 oz
8 oz heavy cream
2 lbs fresh greens
8 oz mustard
16 oz mayo
2lbs cheese
1 onion
16oz greek yogurt
2.5 lb fish
22oz pumpkin
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Sweet!...I have a friend who sent me a text the other night. she took $100 worth of groceries home on her blur200. She was proud.

I have hauled all sorts of things on scoots and motorcycles. You just need the right mindset!. I'll have to take a pic next time I haul something good!
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Stocking up on a scooter doesn't always have to mean food either :P In many ways the Italjet was worthless as a commuter, but quick for it's size. It made up for it in other ways.
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Priceless photos Michelle. I don't have the fancy saddlebags like you, but I've fit a ton of stuff in my hiking pack. That turns a lot of heads at red lights.
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Yeah in retrospect, I'm probably lucky the rear tire didn't blow out when I took it off the centerstand to come home. I didn't know until later (when I was looking at the picture I took) how low the tire and center stand, etc were. :shock:

My feet were a bit pressed for space...I think I had about 2" on each side of the bag on my floorboard. My feet never slipped off, but yep, I had to really concentrate and hold them firm there. :) I do have makeshift foot pegs, but I forgot to bring it with me. Figures--the one time I could have used it.

Funny thing is, that I come up a substantial hill on the way home and even loaded down like that, Little Bit still had a lot of pep...I was passing the cagers in many cases.

The handling did not appear any different than normal except for when I went down this one stretch of road that had bad pavement. The front end felt a little weird, but I'm crediting that to the weight I had on the front rack.

I have no idea how much weight I had on the scooter. It was about $140 worth of groceries, though that doesn't mean much. :)

Unfortunately, Fieldsheer quit making the Expander Saddlebags and Expander Tailbag set I have...not sure why, as I think they are awesome! Hopefully they replaced it with something comparable, but I really don't know.

My husband and I bought matching Fieldsheer Expander saddlebags (he didn't go for the matching tailbag because he has a topcase) for our annual scooter roadtrip from Renton to the Washington/Oregon border to visit some relatives, so I have to use them other times during the year to get my $$ out of them. They are great for going to work as well...boots and gloves can go in one, and laptop in the other when I get to work. :)
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luckily the Buddy is a stout bike with good suspension (declared maximum weight of rider, cargo, fuel is 340lbs) and can handle overpacking from time to time :lol:
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peabody99 wrote:4 bottles wine
1lb grd beef
1 lb lamb
1 lb pork
3 dozen eggs
1 lb bacon
1 lb chorizo
MMmmm, breakfast.
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michelle_7728 wrote: Unfortunately, Fieldsheer quit making the Expander Saddlebags and Expander Tailbag set I have...not sure why, as I think they are awesome! Hopefully they replaced it with something comparable, but I really don't know.

My husband and I bought matching Fieldsheer Expander saddlebags (he didn't go for the matching tailbag because he has a topcase) for our annual scooter roadtrip from Renton to the Washington/Oregon border to visit some relatives, so I have to use them other times during the year to get my $$ out of them. They are great for going to work as well...boots and gloves can go in one, and laptop in the other when I get to work. :)
I haven't been able to find any non-motorcycle specific saddle bags by Fieldsheer after looking through... too many websites today at work. Too bad, because those look nice. I guess I'll stick with the Primas, or maybe make my own once the bf is done making his.
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michelle, you are crazy and my new hero! Image
I don't know which is most crazy, carrying that much stuff, buying that many snap peas, or cataloging the whole thing to share.
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ahh yes

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I would use the Blackjack, with front n rear racks, to do the grocery shopping. A few times I've caught people with a snarky smile on their mug as I begin to load everything up. After a while, you learn what goes best where, and so you get faster and faster at packing it in...I like to see that smile shift to a look of begrudged appreciation, as they realize they just used 10x the gas I did to get the same amount of stuff.
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peabody99 wrote: 4 bottles wine
1lb grd beef
1 lb lamb
1 lb pork
3 dozen eggs
1 lb bacon
mmm.... did someone say bacon?
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Forgive me, everyone, for some reformatting and "editing" liberties...all taken in the name of saving space on my replies.... :oops:
peabody99 wrote:...at risk of looking like I eat like King Henry VIII. here was my load:

4 bottles wine......................1lb grd beef...............1 lb lamb......................1 lb pork.........................3 dozen eggs.............1 lb bacon
2 ½ gallon almond milk......Quart ½ and ½.........1 lb almonds...............1 lb. butter.....................1 lb chorizo..................2 cans tomato paste
12 oz tomato sauce.............Shampoo-16 oz.......8 oz heavy cream........2 lbs fresh greens.......8 oz mustard.............16 oz mayo
2lbs cheese..........................1 onion.....................16oz greek yogurt.........2.5 lb fish......................22oz pumpkin
Woohoo! Kindred spirit! I like your style! :D Did all the eggs make it home unbroken? Were all the bottles of wine in the pet carrier?
I know a bunch of beer bottles or Pepsi cans can fit in there!
viney266 wrote:Sweet!...I'll have to take a pic next time I haul something good!
That's the idea! We'll be waiting for it. :D
neotrotsky wrote:Stocking up on a scooter doesn't always have to mean food either :P In many ways the Italjet was worthless as a commuter, but quick for it's size. It made up for it in other ways.
:shock: That big barrel was empty, I hope! Even then it must have been very awkward to ride with!
BootScootin'FireFighter wrote:Priceless photos Michelle. I don't have the fancy saddlebags like you, but I've fit a ton of stuff in my hiking pack. That turns a lot of heads at red lights.
I've never considered them fancy, but I like that they match, and the definitely are functional. I think you shared a picture of your hiking, or was it duffle, bag once. That thing is HUGE! A long time ago, a friend of mine said, "Form follows function". I've always remembered that. Very true. :wink:
AWinn6889 wrote:I haven't been able to find any non-motorcycle specific saddle bags by Fieldsheer after looking through... too many websites today at work. Too bad, because those look nice. I guess I'll stick with the Primas, or maybe make my own once the bf is done making his.
Definitely share pictures of what he comes up with. I made my own canvas bag once (what a pain that was!), but nothing as industrious as that!
kmrcstintn wrote:luckily the Buddy is a stout bike with good suspension (declared maximum weight of rider, cargo, fuel is 340lbs) and can handle overpacking from time to time :lol:
So true! It is a very spunky bike. 8)
siobhan wrote:michelle, you are crazy and my new hero! Image
I don't know which is most crazy, carrying that much stuff, buying that many snap peas, or cataloging the whole thing to share.
LOL. Probably all 3, but I figured it might liven up discussion here on the forum, and open some people's eyes to what they can accomplish on a scooter...though by and large on this forum I'm "preaching to the choir". :P
Tam Tam wrote:...I like to see that smile shift to a look of begrudged appreciation, as they realize they just used 10x the gas I did to get the same amount of stuff.
You got it! :P

Hopefully we'll get more pix in this thread. It's interesting, and often very helpful, to see what others have come up with when hauling things. The more utilitarian we can make our Buddy's, the more reason's we have for not driving our cages to work, or the store, right? :D
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Wow! Is your floor board bag strapped on? I can't tell.
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I have homemade saddlebags and was curious on how much I can get in them so I weighed them when I got home from Wally-World and they topped the scale at 97lbs, woot not bad for $20 saddle bags.
However, I do like the lugage you have, where did you get it?
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Very nice!
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Althougth my insulated floor bag (actually made to fit in the pet carrier) is sitting on the floorboards, it does have a couple straps on it that I ran under the seat that keep it in place.

Unfortunately, the Fieldsheer Expander saddlebags and tailbag are no longer available. Not sure why not, as I think they are awesome. :?

As I recall, they were NOT scooter specific bags. I'm pretty sure they all sold as motorcycle saddlebags....

To keep the saddlebags from sagging too much with all the weight in them, I do take a couple bungie cords and wrap them across from one saddlebag to the other via the handles. Saves some wear and tear on the saddlebag seams, though I haven't noticed that they are any worse for the wear yet. Not sure if that is visible in the picture....
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Well, Michelle's Fieldsheer Expandable bags impressed me so much I knew I just had to have some new saddlebags. Of course I had to look at bag after bag on site after site, evaluating design and measurements and trying to decide what would fit the scooter well and give me good useable space (I already have some saddlebags but they are more squarish and not as useful for grocery shopping, where lots of items are long/rectangular).

Crossing my fingers they would work on the Buddy, I finally bit the bullet and ordered these:

http://www.motorcyclegear.com/parts/lug ... e_net.html


I had tracked the progress of my package and knew my box was "on the truck schedule for delivery today" -- and woohoo, they came! So I pretended I needed to go to the grocery store tonight.

From one trip, in which they weren't completely stuffed but, say 3/4s full on each side, I'm very pleased. I really like the curved shape, the length, and the height of the bags -- plenty of clearance for the exhaust. They attach with the saddlebag standard loop-with-buckle. Balance readily and well. They have the rubberized backing to help prevent rubbing on the scooter. I like the bungee net on top. And did I say I like the outwardly-curving shape? :lol: It looks sleek and streamlined, for an item of luggage. Not boxy looking. Nice reflective striping, too.

They aren't waterproof and don't come with a cover.
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i was inspired by this thread and went to the store. here is what i got and i crammed it all in my pet carrier

1 Gallon Milk
12 Bananas
32oz Mayo
8 pack hamburger buns
1 pound cheese
8in Apple Pie
1 pound pasta

not a bad haul for a beginner!
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Nice job RoadRambler and JHScoot! You've got the idea. :clap:

I thought all saddle bags were either water resistant, or came with water resistant slip covers like mine did. In an absolute downpour, water can seep in mine--though maybe not if I sprayed the slipcovers with Scotchguard, but I haven't gotten around to trying that as I've only been caught in a downpour with them once...and it was when we were making our 6-7 hour one-way annual trek from Renton to Ilwaco Washington to visit relatives, so they really had a good bit of time to get soaked in the pelting rain.

If you think you might be riding in heavy rain for some distance, some kind of water repellant spray or waterproof slip covers might not be a bad idea....or just make sure you put things that need to stay dry in huge zip lock baggies (which I did on a later trip--of course, it just drizzled that time. :roll: )

Nice big saddle bags sure do make a difference, don't they? I really like that nice, wide, white reflective striping on yours!
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^Well, the Chase Harpers don't state they are or are not waterproof, so I assume not! They do have a flap that folds over the zippers, which is usually something you see in water resistant products, but still I didn't want to assume. And you can buy a cover -- separately though!

I do really like the fit and the aerodynamic shape.

I get a weird kick out of going grocery shopping and trying not to change what I would buy any at all from what I would get if I were in a car.
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I don't see anything weird about it. :D

You're enjoying yourself, and you're able to accomplish what most of the other shoppers (that don't have kids with them, of course) can't accomplish without spending more $$ on gas.

Of course, there are those shoppers with overflowing shopping carts. I say we can haul just as much...we would just do it in two or three days/trips (again more for the excuse to have fun).
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RoadRambler wrote:I get a weird kick out of going grocery shopping and trying not to change what I would buy any at all from what I would get if I were in a car.
I get a kick out of guys on motorcycles watching me load up a cart full of groceries that they couldn't get into a sportbike or Harley.
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michelle_7728 wrote:Nice job RoadRambler and JHScoot! You've got the idea. :clap:
yeah i put the milk on its side and the bananas wrapped around that. the mayo stood up straight, the cheese next to that, the apple pie along the side, and the hamburger buns and pasta on top. and i was able to keep it all in bags with a bit of rearranging in said bags
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Okay, I'll play! This is a typical week's groceries for our 2-person (+1 pug) family. If I recall correctly I didn't even use the train case I have on the rack for this trip, and only had the 6-pack in the pet carrier. I do the weekly groceries pretty much without fail on Daisy 9 months of the year.

I started a really teeny tiny album on facebook showing what can be carried on a scooter in the hopes of spreading the Good Word - and if you're okay with it I think I'll use your original pic as an example of 'how to do it right' (I just loop grocery bags on helmet hooks and such). I've got two of my buds awfully close right now. Hopefully the rapidly disappearing dealer base in the area won't put too much damper on that.


*Please no judgments on the amount of prepared food - we've actually gotten much better about produce since this pic was taken. :)
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That is awesome, Quo! SPREAD THE WORD most definitely! Scootin' shoppers of the world, unite! :D

And yeah, motorcycles just don't have much of the utility thing going for them, do they?
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Well, they could, but a motorcycle with shopping bags hanging down by their feet might look a little goofy (but who cares, right?).

Quo Vadimus: Nicely done. :clap:
...and I don't mind if you want to share my pictures. The more people who understand how utilitarian our scooters can be the better!...one less excuse for not buying one pushed aside. :wink:

I don't see a pile of Twinkies, cookies, or cake there, so I think you are doing just fine. :)
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Michelle, that platform on your rack looks very, very color matched. Is there more to the story/is it highly custom/something other than just a bit of plywood with some rattle-can?
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Quo Vadimus wrote: *Please no judgments on the amount of prepared food - we've actually gotten much better about produce since this pic was taken. :)
No, no, no, I won't judge. I'll be envious that you have a 'Traders' close enough for your weekly shopping!!

Eric said it above, it is so much fun to be watched by the motorcycle guys when I stow stuff in the scoot and they just shake their heads in disbelief..
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anyone ever go to a drive thru window on your scoot? i haven't but have a mind to

i just had a flash to do it at kfc and throw a 21 piece meal deal under my seat. that would be awesome. i'll just ride up to the window and when the artery clogging goodness comes hop off, kickstand it, throw da junk in da trunk, and ride off into the smoggy sunset :)
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RoadRambler wrote:That is awesome, Quo! SPREAD THE WORD most definitely! Scootin' shoppers of the world, unite! :D

And yeah, motorcycles just don't have much of the utility thing going for them, do they?
Well, with a few exceptions, anyway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Pacific_Coast

Then again, the same people who call scooters mopeds generally call it a scooter.

Sportbikes are pretty much useless and most dedicated tourers are too big for daily use, but a small cruiser bike with a set of hard panniers and a luggage rack would do pretty much the same thing.

The thing none of them can duplicate is the utility of the flat floorboard. It's got to be a great advantage to be able to carry something heavy down that low.
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JHScoot wrote:anyone ever go to a drive thru window on your scoot? i
I went to the local BK once. The drive up 'sensor' didn't 'sense' me, when I then knocked on the window they told me "well the sensor didn't register that you were there, 'Dude'" and they then promptly walked away..... :shock: (Without even asking for my order)
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I go through drive-thrus all the time. A Jimmy John's sandwich and chips fit nicely in the glove tray, for example, plus I keep a plastic grocery bag or two in the glove tray and can slip a drive-thru bag into the grocery bag and hang it from the hook. If I'm getting off the scoot anyway, like at the donut shop near work, i'll stick the donut bag under the seat when I come out.

If the sensor doesn't trip, a Stebel toot usually does the job.
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PeteH wrote: If the sensor doesn't trip, a Stebel toot usually does the job.
I usually use a failed sensor trip as a sign that I shouldn't be eating that stuff anyway, and just ride off. :)
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JHScoot wrote:anyone ever go to a drive thru window on your scoot? i haven't but have a mind to
I figure that drive-thrus pose enough of a communication problem that the buzz of my scooter plus the muffling effects of my helmet would make it more trouble than it's worth. I could kill the engine and take off the helmet (plus get off and pop the pet carrier to stow the food at the window), but by that point I might as well park and walk 50 feet to interact with a human face to face.

I did take the scooter once to the pick-up window at a restaurant with call-ahead take-away service. Since all I had to do was give them my last name, communication wasn't a problem, and with no line of cars behind me expecting service in 90 seconds or less, I didn't feel like I was holding anybody up as I put the food under the seat. The woman who gave me my sandwiches was highly amused by the novelty of it, however.
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Southerner wrote:...The thing none of them can duplicate is the utility of the flat floorboard....
...or front rack. :P I think I might have seen a front rack on a motorcycle once or twice years ago, but maybe not....
Quo Vadimus wrote:Michelle, that platform on your rack looks very, very color matched. Is there more to the story/is it highly custom/something other than just a bit of plywood with some rattle-can?
Custom yes...highly?, well that's debatable. :wink: I'm not sure if you are asking about the platform, or the tailbag that is mounted on it (shown in one of the pictures below).

If you are asking about the tailbag, it is a Fieldsheer Expandable tailbag, which I don't think is available any more. But there are other tailbags out there....

If you really are asking about the platform, here's what it looks like, and some things I've used it for (or could, if I wanted :P ).

I bought an extra rack, so I can leave the platform (which weighs about 5 pounds) permanently mounted to a rack, but still change out the rack if I so desire (I only did that when I had a top case I wanted to use on there occassionally
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For those of us with Stellas, a sidecar is quite useful for carrying lots of stuff, but you do take a hit on mpg. Here is how I went to band practice yesterday.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7866696@N07/6996619443/" title="Off to band practice... by listlessscott, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6222/6996 ... 62426a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Off to band practice..."></a>
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I'm jealous!

I know next to nothing about sidecars (since we can't use them on Buddys)...Do you ever take it off, and if so, how long does it take to detach and reattach it...or is it something where you have one scooter with a side car and one with out a side car if you want the option of riding without it on occasion?

I hadn't thought about how useful side cars could be. Thanks for sharing! :)
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I keep the proper tools and some boards (to prop up the sidecar) handy in the garage and I can remove it in about 6 minutes and put it back on in less than 10. Just 5 bolts and one wire.

It feels very different riding with the sidecar and the regained power and maneuverability always feels quite freeing when I remove it and go on two wheels.

But I'd never be able to take my 5 year old to preschool or go to band practice on my scooter without it. And I've done some large grocery shopping excursions without fear.
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listless wrote:For those of us with Stellas, a sidecar is quite useful for carrying lots of stuff, but you do take a hit on mpg. Here is how I went to band practice yesterday.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7866696@N07/6996619443/" title="Off to band practice... by listlessscott, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6222/6996 ... 62426a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Off to band practice..."></a>
You win.

I've thought about a sidecar on a MC but from what I've read, there are a lot of tradeoffs, particularly performance, handling, mpg and tire life.

I'm glad you are able to take the SC on and off your Stella at will. Glad to know it can be done.
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