hi, new owner of a stripped down Buddy 125 (updated pics)
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hi, new owner of a stripped down Buddy 125 (updated pics)
hello everyone
new member here, new to this board, but i frequent other boards regularly, and have already been lurking and searching
quite a lot of info on here, having a blast already looking around
32 year old dude from the chicago area, pretty handy, own a bobber that i basically did myself, so im no stranger to getting the hands dirty
its a 1980 XS1100, here it is:
so, onto the scooter im picking up tomorrow
i believe its a 2009 buddy 125
im getting it from my girlfriends co-worker, it was stolen, stripped, and found
it runs, and drives fine, but is missing A LOT of parts
luckily, ive 'got a guy' at a genuine dealership so that should help a bit
i got a good deal on it and dont want to see it get junked or wasted
im sure it has low miles, and id like to bring it back from the dead so to speak
it needs a ton of work, and seems like a daunting task, but im gonna go for it
here she is, ive only seen pics, im gonna ride it and see it tomorrow
new member here, new to this board, but i frequent other boards regularly, and have already been lurking and searching
quite a lot of info on here, having a blast already looking around
32 year old dude from the chicago area, pretty handy, own a bobber that i basically did myself, so im no stranger to getting the hands dirty
its a 1980 XS1100, here it is:
so, onto the scooter im picking up tomorrow
i believe its a 2009 buddy 125
im getting it from my girlfriends co-worker, it was stolen, stripped, and found
it runs, and drives fine, but is missing A LOT of parts
luckily, ive 'got a guy' at a genuine dealership so that should help a bit
i got a good deal on it and dont want to see it get junked or wasted
im sure it has low miles, and id like to bring it back from the dead so to speak
it needs a ton of work, and seems like a daunting task, but im gonna go for it
here she is, ive only seen pics, im gonna ride it and see it tomorrow
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I'd say that's stripped, indeed. Missing every last bit of plastic. I don't know if I'm imagining it, but it looks like the frame is bent to me. Then again, I can't say I've ever had a really good look at a completely naked Buddy like that before. So I guess I don't know exactly what it's supposed to look like.
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the frame being bent would really stink
ill be looking at it closely for any signs of that tomorrow, wrinkling paint, chips, scrapes, etc....
the owner said it runs and rides perfectly fine
the cops actually pulled and arrested the guy over who was busted riding it
i dont think it was dropped or crashed or anything
but ill look for the signs of a crash or drop when im in person with it
the grips seem like they are ok, not chewed up or anything
also, the exhaust and heat shield look alright too, so i dont think it went down on the right side
heres a couple more pics
ill be looking at it closely for any signs of that tomorrow, wrinkling paint, chips, scrapes, etc....
the owner said it runs and rides perfectly fine
the cops actually pulled and arrested the guy over who was busted riding it
i dont think it was dropped or crashed or anything
but ill look for the signs of a crash or drop when im in person with it
the grips seem like they are ok, not chewed up or anything
also, the exhaust and heat shield look alright too, so i dont think it went down on the right side
heres a couple more pics
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If it was the right price I would have snagged it!
Welcome to MB!
It's hard to tell from the photo if there is a frame problem. Also I'm used to seeing it with the panels on. If it's bent it should be pretty obvious.
The panels are actually pretty cheap. I think a full set new is under $400. You can look for someone parting out a wrecked one in the MB classifieds and grab available panels. If they don't match...paint!
It LOOKS like a ton of work but I don't think it is going to be too bad. If you built a Bobber (sweet bike by the way) you can handle this. For me the worst part would be figuring out the headset electrics.
The service manual is available in the tech section.
Keep us updated!
Welcome to MB!
It's hard to tell from the photo if there is a frame problem. Also I'm used to seeing it with the panels on. If it's bent it should be pretty obvious.
The panels are actually pretty cheap. I think a full set new is under $400. You can look for someone parting out a wrecked one in the MB classifieds and grab available panels. If they don't match...paint!
It LOOKS like a ton of work but I don't think it is going to be too bad. If you built a Bobber (sweet bike by the way) you can handle this. For me the worst part would be figuring out the headset electrics.
The service manual is available in the tech section.
Keep us updated!
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I believe pdxrita is referring to this general area. Its probably just the camera angle and lack of panels that give the impression of a bent frame.
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That's a relief. When I saw that tire I instantly remembered someone on this board talking about eating it with their new scoot after not noticing the previous owner had used Armor All on the tireslefthandedrighty wrote:that would be alarming for sure
but when the current owner, soon to be previous owner, sent me that pic, it had been rained on
which im not really happy about because i think they have a garage
You could just get the plastic body parts, but you could also try doing something more interesting. You've got a (nearly) blank canvas here. What were you thinking of doing with it?
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Yup, that's what I was looking at. It looks better in the subsequent photo. It's probably not bent, but that's definitely something to look as closely.agrogod wrote:I believe pdxrita is referring to this general area. Its probably just the camera angle and lack of panels that give the impression of a bent frame.
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Thanks for all the advice and kind words everyone
I am looking forward to getting started, looking more forward to being finished
One of the things I'm most nervous about is the fact that I have none of the fasteners or screws
Not sure if one can buy a complete screw kit, but I'm gonna look into that.
Things I notice gone right away in the pictures is the left hand controls and switches, just about all the electronics and horn up front, obviously the battery and all the lights.
I'll probably be making a new thread with my progress or maybe I'll just update the name in this one, if I can
For a name for her, 'Skelly' came to mind, short for skeleton
My plan was to bring it back to as close to stock looking as possible
I was gonna see if 'psycho' plastics were available, but it seems those are a bit rare
Thanks again everybody!
I am looking forward to getting started, looking more forward to being finished
One of the things I'm most nervous about is the fact that I have none of the fasteners or screws
Not sure if one can buy a complete screw kit, but I'm gonna look into that.
Things I notice gone right away in the pictures is the left hand controls and switches, just about all the electronics and horn up front, obviously the battery and all the lights.
I'll probably be making a new thread with my progress or maybe I'll just update the name in this one, if I can
For a name for her, 'Skelly' came to mind, short for skeleton
My plan was to bring it back to as close to stock looking as possible
I was gonna see if 'psycho' plastics were available, but it seems those are a bit rare
Thanks again everybody!
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Oh yeah, turn signal/headlight switches are definitely missing.lefthandedrighty wrote:Things I notice gone right away in the pictures is the left hand controls and switches, just about all the electronics and horn up front, obviously the battery and all the lights.
You're also missing the tailight, headlight, turn signals (front and back), and deadlights. Not to mention the speedo & etc.
I can't believe someone was riding that around thinking they wouldn't get caught
Still, if you get it for a good price it will be a fun project!
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Ok, picked it up today, I'll post some more pics when I get home tomorrow from work
There actually is a battery, it's under the seat, and the little storage area under the seat is cracked, add that to the list
The rear brake and cable are there, but the lever is cracked off
The left side control is also completely missing
The handlebars have been swapped out for some unknown reason
That might be why the frame looks bent, because I checked the frame and all the welds up front and everything seems to be in good shape
I'm really hoping that changing the bars back to factory will make it look and ride a little more normal
The ignition is gone, but the PO showed me how to Hotwire it, so I did get to drive it around the block (I had to at least do that), the engine starts right up, pulls strong and sounds good
He said he thought he had around 2900 miles on it, and it is a 2009, not bad
From what I can tell, all the harnesses are intact, put it the thief wrapped the wire in like packing tape for some reason, I'll dive into the wiring tomorrow
There actually is a battery, it's under the seat, and the little storage area under the seat is cracked, add that to the list
The rear brake and cable are there, but the lever is cracked off
The left side control is also completely missing
The handlebars have been swapped out for some unknown reason
That might be why the frame looks bent, because I checked the frame and all the welds up front and everything seems to be in good shape
I'm really hoping that changing the bars back to factory will make it look and ride a little more normal
The ignition is gone, but the PO showed me how to Hotwire it, so I did get to drive it around the block (I had to at least do that), the engine starts right up, pulls strong and sounds good
He said he thought he had around 2900 miles on it, and it is a 2009, not bad
From what I can tell, all the harnesses are intact, put it the thief wrapped the wire in like packing tape for some reason, I'll dive into the wiring tomorrow
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here are some more pics:
looks like the part we might have thought was bent is alright, welds look good
so it turns out, there IS a battery in it after all, but i dont think it belongs here
it seems to be sitting too upright, or do the sidestands on these scoots just not really work right?
this is straight on from the front, with the wheel straight, it looks like these front tabs are bent big time
is this harness for the tail light and turn signals or for the fuel gauge? should there be more back here?
cracked storage area, and the other bent 'tab' i found
and these are not the correct bars are they?
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looks like the part we might have thought was bent is alright, welds look good
so it turns out, there IS a battery in it after all, but i dont think it belongs here
it seems to be sitting too upright, or do the sidestands on these scoots just not really work right?
this is straight on from the front, with the wheel straight, it looks like these front tabs are bent big time
is this harness for the tail light and turn signals or for the fuel gauge? should there be more back here?
cracked storage area, and the other bent 'tab' i found
and these are not the correct bars are they?
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It's normally mounted to the underside of the floor that doesn't exist on your scoot.lefthandedrighty wrote:so it turns out, there IS a battery in it after all, but i dont think it belongs here
The sidestands are not very stable. My biggest "wreck" came when I parked it on the sidestand, and it tipped over.it seems to be sitting too upright, or do the sidestands on these scoots just not really work right?
I've never seen my handlebars naked, so I can't be sure, but those could be original stock. The parts diagrams should help you figure what's what and what's ... not.
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Went through that craptastic wiring a bit today
Took off all the tape and removed the battery from the storage and also removed the broken under seat storage
Gonna need one of those too now
There were a couple harnesses under the tape, but also some random cut wires, so I'm sure a couple harnesses are missing
these pictures wont show much, but i just want you to all be a part of my headache and aggravation
i found a wiring diagram on here, and im gonna start filtering through wires i have, and electrical components im missing and need
Wiring is my least favorite part so I'm hoping to get this done quickly, which is not likely
Took off all the tape and removed the battery from the storage and also removed the broken under seat storage
Gonna need one of those too now
There were a couple harnesses under the tape, but also some random cut wires, so I'm sure a couple harnesses are missing
these pictures wont show much, but i just want you to all be a part of my headache and aggravation
i found a wiring diagram on here, and im gonna start filtering through wires i have, and electrical components im missing and need
Wiring is my least favorite part so I'm hoping to get this done quickly, which is not likely
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ha ha ha!
yea, it looks terrible
i took those pics after i was pulling things apart a bit to see exactly what went where, and what wires were cut to hot wire it
honestly, it seems like the thief just cut random wires trying to make it run
some things that seem to have nothing to do with the actual running of the scooter were messed with
i think ill be able to clean it all up, just gotta go one harness at a time
and yes, it is convenient that scooterworks is in my city, that will help!
yea, it looks terrible
i took those pics after i was pulling things apart a bit to see exactly what went where, and what wires were cut to hot wire it
honestly, it seems like the thief just cut random wires trying to make it run
some things that seem to have nothing to do with the actual running of the scooter were messed with
i think ill be able to clean it all up, just gotta go one harness at a time
and yes, it is convenient that scooterworks is in my city, that will help!
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My thought is: Why bother making it look like a Buddy again? You've got the beginning of a great "rat" bike there. Kind of Buddy meets Ruckus. A Buckus, if you will.
Go see what some of your local Ruckus guys have done with their bikes. You could have a great opportunity here.
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Go see what some of your local Ruckus guys have done with their bikes. You could have a great opportunity here.
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im not against that idea, but i just wouldnt even know where to start
like hiding all the electronics up front and what not, but still have a working headlight and signals and what not
i already have a rat bike, id like this one to be more functional and have options, like turn signals
plus, i think that the buddy looks nice with all the plastics and stuff on it
im gonna try and bring it back stock, but if that becomes a pain, ill 'ruck' it up
but, i did find a wiring harness, looks like its about 60 bucks
might just buy that and go from there
like hiding all the electronics up front and what not, but still have a working headlight and signals and what not
i already have a rat bike, id like this one to be more functional and have options, like turn signals
plus, i think that the buddy looks nice with all the plastics and stuff on it
im gonna try and bring it back stock, but if that becomes a pain, ill 'ruck' it up
but, i did find a wiring harness, looks like its about 60 bucks
might just buy that and go from there
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Hey, here's some parts for sale, including the speedo:
topic22854.html
"150 cc exhaust pipe assy. Like new
Speedometer
Other steering head misc. pieces
Some body panels for St. Tropez. "
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"150 cc exhaust pipe assy. Like new
Speedometer
Other steering head misc. pieces
Some body panels for St. Tropez. "
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As a side thought. The battery under the seat is kind of a neat idea, have you considered moving it their as the project progresses? The recent threads of battery thefts got me thinking along this line. The customization possibility's are many at this stage of the game.
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YES. I envision a streetfighter buddy... a bobber buddy...Howardr wrote:My thought is: Why bother making it look like a Buddy again? You've got the beginning of a great "rat" bike there. Kind of Buddy meets Ruckus. A Buckus, if you will.
Go see what some of your local Ruckus guys have done with their bikes. You could have a great opportunity here.
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What a great thread. Keep up the pics and updates.
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That might get him locked upVinylDoctor wrote:dont put the body back on.
tell people it's your little naked buddy.
I too am enjoying this thread.
Lefthandrighty what part of the Chi are you in?
I'm moving back to the city in two weeks.
When you get it back together we'll ride...
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im just west of the city, in the beautiful village of River Grove
home of Gene and Judes, the best hot dogs on earth in my opinion
so, im making a list of things i need, and the list just seems to keep growing
which i expected, but for the plastics, do they have to be bought individually?
has anyone bought like a 'plastics set' so i can just have it be one quick order?
probably not, but i figured id ask
the first thing im ordering and taking care of is a new harness, and all the little bits of electronics im missing up front
it seems like i have a couple, but need a resistor, flasher relay, and a horn
i have the CDI and the voltage regulator, finally, a part i actually have
also gonna get new bars, an ignition switch, and the left hand controls so i can at least get it running with a key and both brakes
home of Gene and Judes, the best hot dogs on earth in my opinion
so, im making a list of things i need, and the list just seems to keep growing
which i expected, but for the plastics, do they have to be bought individually?
has anyone bought like a 'plastics set' so i can just have it be one quick order?
probably not, but i figured id ask
the first thing im ordering and taking care of is a new harness, and all the little bits of electronics im missing up front
it seems like i have a couple, but need a resistor, flasher relay, and a horn
i have the CDI and the voltage regulator, finally, a part i actually have
also gonna get new bars, an ignition switch, and the left hand controls so i can at least get it running with a key and both brakes
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Good luck! I think that a new wiring harness is the way to go, too. Electrical problems are the most annoying to deal with (in my opinion), so using a new harness means you can probably safely skirt that issue.
I was recently looking at a ruckus. It looks nice. You should do whatever you want, but it might also be a way to save some cash. Not sure about the work involved, but it seems like it wouldn't be terribly hard to change your mind and put the plastic on after trying it out.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to updates
I was recently looking at a ruckus. It looks nice. You should do whatever you want, but it might also be a way to save some cash. Not sure about the work involved, but it seems like it wouldn't be terribly hard to change your mind and put the plastic on after trying it out.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to updates
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i actually was just looking in that thread, and thought how sweet those rucks looked
i suppose i could start with the front 'windshield' so i could hide all the main stuff in there, still have a speedo and signals, but maybe do without the side panels
also, could mount and hide the battery under the seat
ive got some serious thinking to do on this thing
step one, get it running with a good set of clean wires
i suppose i could start with the front 'windshield' so i could hide all the main stuff in there, still have a speedo and signals, but maybe do without the side panels
also, could mount and hide the battery under the seat
ive got some serious thinking to do on this thing
step one, get it running with a good set of clean wires
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Found it! I was just thinking that if you put the battery under the seat, you have the option of doing something cool with the battery compartment. You could either leave it empty, plug all holes in it and store tools in there, or even create something like the picture below but in a smaller scale and turned sideways.
Nice to have options!
Nice to have options!
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yeah but your scooter is all ready really rucked up now.michelle_7728 wrote:Found it! I was just thinking that if you put the battery under the seat, you have the option of doing something cool with the battery compartment. You could either leave it empty, plug all holes in it and store tools in there, or even create something like the picture below but in a smaller scale and turned sideways.
Nice to have options!
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If only that was true. Scooterworks CHICAGO is our dealer, but Scooterworks USA, the mail-order warehouse, where all the parts are, is across town and isn't open to the public, so we have to mail-order stuff like everyone else, or order it from Scooterworks Chicago and go pick it up there a day or two later.Tocsik wrote:Scooterworks is in Chi-town so you won't have to wait long for parts.
I guess technically we get it faster just because we're closer and it takes less time for UPS to deliver it, but the wonderful old days of instant gratification are gone. I work a few blocks from the warehouse and I shake my fist at it every day as I pass. : )
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LHR, I live in Galewood, just north of Oak Park, not far at all from Gene and Judes and Hala Kahiki.
I don't suppose you'll have that thing running in two weeks, but you might want to check out the Slaughterhouse Rally, it's our 18th year!
slaughterhousechicago.com
We have an unofficial wrap-up at Hala Kahiki every year on Sunday evening, ha.
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I don't suppose you'll have that thing running in two weeks, but you might want to check out the Slaughterhouse Rally, it's our 18th year!
slaughterhousechicago.com
We have an unofficial wrap-up at Hala Kahiki every year on Sunday evening, ha.
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nice bump guy
hard to believe its been about 3 years
but the scooter is 'done'
have all parts, its completely operational, and everything works like a charm
it was a lot of work
had to replace all plastics, new harness, all signals and lights
not to mention all the things i did that im totally forgetting now
scoured the web and all my available resources to get parts, which is why the plastics are mis-matched
eventually, ill be painting it, but i dont care enough right now
added Dr Pulley Sliders and an NCY pipe and thats it for the performance mods
now, just riding and enjoying it
the pic ive attached is old, ill attach another witht he scoot and my bobber in it too
hard to believe its been about 3 years
but the scooter is 'done'
have all parts, its completely operational, and everything works like a charm
it was a lot of work
had to replace all plastics, new harness, all signals and lights
not to mention all the things i did that im totally forgetting now
scoured the web and all my available resources to get parts, which is why the plastics are mis-matched
eventually, ill be painting it, but i dont care enough right now
added Dr Pulley Sliders and an NCY pipe and thats it for the performance mods
now, just riding and enjoying it
the pic ive attached is old, ill attach another witht he scoot and my bobber in it too
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