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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new Honda CB300R also looks nice:

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It really does look nice, and the price should be pretty darn reasonable too
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no...
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To me, the CB300R looks much better than the CB500F, with that transformer headlight.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k1dude wrote:
The new Honda CB300R also looks nice:

wheelbender6 wrote:
To me, the CB300R looks much better than the CB500F, with that transformer headlight.


Do you think either of these has the capacity to stitch heavy leather?
... saw a nice Gustin jacket the other day that I would probably have to have tailored to fit properly.

Oh! My mistake. I thought these were both sewing machines.

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No mistake. It is DOHC, water cooled precision sewing machine vs Chinese clone of a 30 year old design once made by that same sewing machine manufacturer. And probably around the same price.
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I've been watching the CB300 awhile & really like that new one. Upgrades to suspension, huge weight loss & restyled. Intake path is now a little straighter but I believe peak power is the same. Youtube shows it tops out around 100 mph so freeways rides are no problem. Getting tired of fighting my long & top heavy motorcycle out of the garage & around the cars. Dropped it last time.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The page for the Genuine G400C has been taken down! Shocked

http://www.genuinescooters.com/g400c.html

I assume that means that a slew of new pages for the different models of the G400C are forthcoming. Yay!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I assume that means that a slew of new pages for the different models of the G400C are forthcoming.

Well, that is one possibility alright. There are others. Wink
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jrsjr wrote:
I assume that means that a slew of new pages for the different models of the G400C are forthcoming.

Well, that is one possibility alright. There are others. Wink

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Just looked for fun...there is a URL, genuinemotorcyles.com, which currently points to the scooter site. Maybe they'll stand the G400 family up over there?
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Just looked for fun...there is a URL, genuinemotorcyles.com, which currently points to the scooter site. Maybe they'll stand the G400 family up over there?

Shocked Dang!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a reference to a new 400cc USA motorcycle

Naked Kawasaki Ninja 400 Certified By CARB

It looks like somebody somewhere is actually getting paid to do that CARB-Watch thing I used to do here. Paid?!? Dang! What a concept. LOL!

So it looks like we're going to get a 400cc Ninja-based naked motorcycle in the USA. Don't expect the styling to be retro in any way, form or fashion. When Kawa did the same thing with their 650 Ninja, it ended up looking like this. So expect a whole lot more of the same.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current Ninja 400 sportbike MSRP is under 5grand without abs.
That is a tough deal to beat.

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The current Ninja 400 sportbike MSRP is under 5grand without abs.
That is a tough deal to beat.

Good point. And in the case of the 650, the price differential between the Ninja version of the bike and the Z version is about $400, so I'm guessing that the 400 will be very similar, making the Z400 a stone bargain in the way of a 400cc bike.
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The page for the Genuine G400C has been taken down! Shocked

http://www.genuinescooters.com/g400c.html

I assume that means that a slew of new pages for the different models of the G400C are forthcoming. Yay!


Just checked it again, now it says "Coming November 2018"

There are definitely a few other bikes in this thread that fit the bill for me, but none really have that classic style (while being reasonably priced)

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PhillyKick wrote:
jrsjr wrote:
The page for the Genuine G400C has been taken down! Shocked

http://www.genuinescooters.com/g400c.html

I assume that means that a slew of new pages for the different models of the G400C are forthcoming. Yay!


Just checked it again, now it says "Coming November 2018"

Good catch! Thanks. WOOT!
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There are definitely a few other bikes in this thread that fit the bill for me, but none really have that classic style (while being reasonably priced)

Agreed. The only remaining decision factor for me will be whether Royal Enfield get their new 650 twin into the USA market quickly.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is the Honda CB 400 SS and which is the Genuine G400C?
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I was wrong.
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Which is the Honda CB 400 SS and which is the Genuine G400C?


My guess: bottom picture is the Honda.

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The SYM Wolf 300i is out now.

I, too, am keeping an eye on the RE twins.

The Himalayan is quite the bargain.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.
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Stanza wrote:
Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.

There's something else that's slightly less obvious and a slightly bigger deal. See if you can spot it!
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The fins on the G400C are much smaller.
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k1dude wrote:
The new Honda CB300R also looks nice:



in my opinion ktm duke 390>honda cb300r
https://www.ktm.com/naked/390-duke/

and the 125 looks fun as well...
https://www.ktm.com/naked/125-duke/
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jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.

There's something else that's slightly less obvious and a slightly bigger deal. See if you can spot it!


Catalytic converter on the pipe? I see that bulge...
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jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.

There's something else that's slightly less obvious and a slightly bigger deal. See if you can spot it!


The biggest giveaway is that when you hover your mouse pointer over each photo it tells you what it is... Laughing

But, I assumed the bottom was Honda because of the more substantial front hub and rim plus the stainless steel exhaust header.

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in my opinion ktm duke 390>honda cb300r
https://www.ktm.com/naked/390-duke/

and the 125 looks fun as well...
https://www.ktm.com/naked/125-duke/


Yeah, that's pretty hot:



But one looks sort of cafe and the other is distinctly modern.
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babblefish wrote:
jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.

There's something else that's slightly less obvious and a slightly bigger deal. See if you can spot it!


The biggest giveaway is that when you hover your mouse pointer over each photo it tells you what it is... Laughing

Aw man, if I was as smart as I wish I was, I would have reversed the names... Evil or Very Mad
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Stanza wrote:
jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.

There's something else that's slightly less obvious and a slightly bigger deal. See if you can spot it!


Catalytic converter on the pipe? I see that bulge...

That's good, but that's not it. Look closer, it's really obvious once you see it...
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k1dude wrote:
Point37 wrote:
in my opinion ktm duke 390>honda cb300r
https://www.ktm.com/naked/390-duke/

and the 125 looks fun as well...
https://www.ktm.com/naked/125-duke/


Yeah, that's pretty hot:



But one looks sort of cafe and the other is distinctly modern.


yea the honda has certain parts that are styled to look older but they both look like modern nakeds to me...there are quite a few retro styled bikes coming out though...not sure how many to the US though...royal enfield, moto guzzi and triumph are pretty good at it...i feel like if you can design/build a light, good quality, reliable, quick, nimble, 250-500cc bike that can maintain highway speeds then you could sell a lot of units...all of the major companies are building bikes in this engine size range so there must be a demand for them...more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow

https://muttmotorcycles.com/
http://www.caballerofantic.com/en/scrambler
https://clevelandcyclewerks.com/ccwbikes-1/
https://custombike.cc/best-retro-125cc-motorcycles-2018/
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jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.

There's something else that's slightly less obvious and a slightly bigger deal. See if you can spot it!


Catalytic converter on the pipe? I see that bulge...

That's good, but that's not it. Look closer, it's really obvious once you see it...


The.....the vin tag? Beyond that, I'm drawing a blank.
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jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
jrsjr wrote:
Stanza wrote:
Bottom picture is the G400C.
That crossbar support on the fender is a dead giveaway.

There's something else that's slightly less obvious and a slightly bigger deal. See if you can spot it!


Catalytic converter on the pipe? I see that bulge...

That's good, but that's not it. Look closer, it's really obvious once you see it...


the edge of the A from the word honda on the engine case in the top photo?...

edit: just realized after hovering over the photos that i'm wrong

1 pipe vs 2 pipes?
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That extra circular cap on the case - counterbalance shaft end cover?
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charlie55 wrote:
That extra circular cap on the case - counterbalance shaft end cover?

Bingo! Ring the bell. We got a winnah!
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charlie55 wrote:
That extra circular cap on the case - counterbalance shaft end cover?

Bingo! Ring the bell. We got a winnah!


25 years with my penny-pinching company has made me an expert at recognizing a shaft when I see one.

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charlie55 wrote:
jrsjr wrote:
charlie55 wrote:
That extra circular cap on the case - counterbalance shaft end cover?

Bingo! Ring the bell. We got a winnah!


25 years with my penny-pinching company has made me an expert at recognizing a shaft when I see one.

ROFL <off-color joke redacted>
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RoaringTodd wrote:
The Himalayan is quite the bargain.

And, as of the 5th of September, the 2018 Royal Enfield Himalayan has CARB certification. It is On Like Donkey Kong! This is kind of exciting. What we started talking about three and four years ago is happening. Stay tuned.


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Aw man, if I was as smart as I wish I was, I would have reversed the names... Evil or Very Mad

Evidently you are at least as smart as you thought you were - the names are reversed. Wink
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jrsjr wrote:
Aw man, if I was as smart as I wish I was, I would have reversed the names... Evil or Very Mad

Evidently you are at least as smart as you thought you were - the names are reversed. Wink

Shocked You're right. They are. I'm going to have to figure out how that happened. You can be sure it wasn't me being smart. Wink
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On their FB page, Genuine emphatically make the statement that the G400C will be in their warehouse by 10/31/2018.

You notice I said 10/31/2018 instead of Halloween?" That's because I knew some wiseacre would ask, " Which Halloween?"
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On their FB page, Genuine emphatically make the statement that the G400C will be in their warehouse by 10/31/2018.


U.S. warehouse by Oct 31 or Guandong warehouse by Oct 31?

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On their FB page, Genuine emphatically make the statement that the G400C will be in their warehouse by 10/31/2018.


U.S. warehouse by Oct 31 or Guandong warehouse by Oct 31?

They anticipated your question and specifically said, "USA."
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Been eyeballing the Vitpilen 401 lately. It's effectively a Duke 390 that was drug backwards through an IKEA. It's distinctive and decidedly costlier than a Duke, but they are built in Austria unlike the Duke, which is built by Bajaj in India.

Checked it out at the local dealer. Liked most of it, but the cafe bars are non-adjustable. There are accessories coming, so maybe adjustable bar sweep/droop will be an option. Currently, the setup feels like flat-track bars and could be taxing for the wrists of shorter riders. The Svartpilen 401 is more ergonomically friendly, but I'm not sold on the pseudo-scrambler thing it has going on or the blackout colorway.

Dealer financing was laughable, but they keep calling. I told them I needed to send some bikes along and that I'd put more cash down if the interest rates were going to be that insulting. I don't need another bike that badly.

I'm still holding a shred of hope that Honda will deliver on the Bulldog; if Genuine can finally deliver the G400C, then miracles can happen. Wink

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I think the Vitpilen 401 will be a good seller. The 701 costs too much at 12 grand or so.
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RoaringTodd wrote:
The SYM Wolf 300i is out now.

I, too, am keeping an eye on the RE twins.

The Himalayan is quite the bargain.

The 2019 Alliance Powersports Wolf 300 officially received CARB certification so they are good to go in California for 2019.
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The SYM Wolf 300i is out now.

I, too, am keeping an eye on the RE twins.

The Himalayan is quite the bargain.

The 2019 Alliance Powersports Wolf 300 officially received CARB certification so they are good to go in California for 2019.


FWIW: https://www.alliancepowersports.com/models/motorcycles.html

They show gas mileage as 85 mpg, same as the Wolf 150. Interesting...either the Wolf 150 is very inefficient or the Wolf 300i is very efficient.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

babblefish wrote:
jrsjr wrote:
RoaringTodd wrote:
The SYM Wolf 300i is out now.

I, too, am keeping an eye on the RE twins.

The Himalayan is quite the bargain.

The 2019 Alliance Powersports Wolf 300 officially received CARB certification so they are good to go in California for 2019.


FWIW: https://www.alliancepowersports.com/models/motorcycles.html

They show gas mileage as 85 mpg, same as the Wolf 150. Interesting...either the Wolf 150 is very inefficient or the Wolf 300i is very efficient.

Both, maybe? Since the 150 is a carb and the 300 is FI? It'll be interesting to see what the motorcycing press say about this $4999 machine.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Royal Enfield North America launches the Enfield Twin.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180926006070/en/Royal-Enfield-Twin-Cylinder-Motorcycles-North-American-Dealers/?feedref=JjAwJuNHiystnCoBq_hl-WBizzhfcMOlryfOUze8m4xROtuKz3r9zEYYOpRY7zgN7dI9_69nqXXndEkzoNy31peBvhKXN8xoKDPrCnMXhC58cMd5Jhr97vTYoLZQbGkSIh4qq8429IqTQiZYFKJEfg==
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