Changing Buddy 150 Oil - Weird Oil Filter!

weixcrazei · Post by **weixcrazei** » Mon May 28, 2018 2:36 am

Hi all, I just attempted my own oil change on my buddy 150. I drained the oil just fine but when it came to changing out the filter, I couldn't remove it since it doesn't have the regular 6 point "nut" (like the new oil filter I purchased for it). See pics below. 'm concerned my old mechanic might've installed some weird aftermarket filter not quite made for the buddy.

1. What is this? Do I use a large screwdriver or something to remove?

2. It seems it's sitting behind this metal "gate" so getting a socket in there is difficult. I understand the 150s are different from the others in this way. Am I supposed to just try to remove it by hand as best as possible w/o removing the gate in the way?

I couldn't figure out embedding image in the post itself so please click on the links below to view.

The weird filter currently on it:
https://ibb.co/mXCZJJ

Compared to a new one I bought on Amazon:
http://www.scootermercato.com/core/medi ... 9019d874d1

Any advice is appreciated!

sc00ter · Post by **sc00ter** » Mon May 28, 2018 2:53 am

I used to use a file that fit perfect in those filters but ended up finding a tool that worked that fit on a socket wrench. Some people hate those slot style filters, and even though I have a tool that fits the slot I still prefer the hex head version.

sc00ter · Post by **sc00ter** » Mon May 28, 2018 2:54 am

But yes, correct filter as there are two different styles. Also, that "gate" in the way is normal, just work around it.

weixcrazei · Post by **weixcrazei** » Mon May 28, 2018 5:39 am

Thanks Sc00t. Could you share more details about the tool, and where I can get one?

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Mon May 28, 2018 8:31 am

This has been discussed before: http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/topic16335.html

The tool mentioned by Syd that was available from oopsclunkthud.com is no longer available since oopsclunkthud.com doesn't exist anymore. Their tool was 3D printed out of plastic. Shame I don't have their STL or CAD file because then I could print one out. I'm not good enough at CAD to design one yet.

Anyways, I posted some pictures for a couple of other ideas.

Dage'sVew · Post by **Dage'sVew** » Mon May 28, 2018 11:50 am

A post over on Modern Vespa shows a tool, similar to the "snowflake", for sale in the U.K. It's in the General Discussion under "New oil filter tool". Might be possible to get one shipped here??

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Mon May 28, 2018 1:07 pm

Dage'sVew wrote:A post over on Modern Vespa shows a tool, similar to the "snowflake", for sale in the U.K. It's in the General Discussion under "New oil filter tool". Might be possible to get one shipped here??

Link?

sc00ter · Post by **sc00ter** » Mon May 28, 2018 4:59 pm

I was cleaning out a tool box at work when I stumbled upon the tool I have now. I was used to tighten a auto-clutch driver for chainsaws. All the tools were going into the metal scrap bin and I asked my boss if I could have it, since the clutch machine got replaced. Had to slightly trim it down to make it fit. Just use a file to remove the old filter, then just stock up on the hex head style. Im not even sure were my old slot style tool is or I would pass it on. If I ever got another Buddy with that style filter I would just use a file again to remove it.

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Mon May 28, 2018 9:31 pm

sc00ter wrote:I was cleaning out a tool box at work when I stumbled upon the tool I have now. I was used to tighten a auto-clutch driver for chainsaws. All the tools were going into the metal scrap bin and I asked my boss if I could have it, since the clutch machine got replaced. Had to slightly trim it down to make it fit. Just use a file to remove the old filter, then just stock up on the hex head style. Im not even sure were my old slot style tool is or I would pass it on. If I ever got another Buddy with that style filter I would just use a file again to remove it.

Just be careful using a file for that purpose. A file will not bend, it will snap when over stressed with possible metal shards.

DeeDee · Post by **DeeDee** » Mon May 28, 2018 9:53 pm

Use a big ass straight screwdriver to remove the OE filter. Use a HF197 from here out. They have a 17mm head on it. Torque it to 12 ftlbs.

Stanza · Post by **Stanza** » Tue May 29, 2018 2:27 pm

If the old filter is getting replaced....go cave man on it and jam a screwdriver through the side to use as a turn-lever.

Dage'sVew · Post by **Dage'sVew** » Tue May 29, 2018 2:50 pm

babblefish wrote:
Dage'sVew wrote:A post over on Modern Vespa shows a tool, similar to the "snowflake", for sale in the U.K. It's in the General Discussion under "New oil filter tool". Might be possible to get one shipped here??
Link?

Here's the link to the post: http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic159751 but the post itself didn't give a link to purchasing the tool.

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Thu May 31, 2018 11:32 am

Dage'sVew wrote:
babblefish wrote:
Dage'sVew wrote:A post over on Modern Vespa shows a tool, similar to the "snowflake", for sale in the U.K. It's in the General Discussion under "New oil filter tool". Might be possible to get one shipped here??
Link?
Here's the link to the post: http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic159751 but the post itself didn't give a link to purchasing the tool.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vespa-GTS-300- ... Sw4DxahsVd

JettaKnight · Post by **JettaKnight** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:58 pm

Did they add that shield on the 150's?

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:41 am

OK, if anyone needs one of those "snowflake" tools to remove an oil filter, I can print one up on my 3D printer. Since I don't have one of these filters in front of me, I would need some dimensions in millimeters: the diameter of the bump that has the slot, and the width of the slot (see picture). No choice in color.

Price would be the cost of shipping to your destination. If you want to donate something on top of that, it's up to you. I'm fine with either. This is a limited time offer, lets say until the end of 2018.

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:49 am

babblefish wrote:OK, if anyone needs one of those "snowflake" tools to remove an oil filter, I can print one up on my 3D printer. Since I don't have one of these filters in front of me, I would need some dimensions in millimeters: the diameter of the bump that has the slot, and the width of the slot (see picture). No choice in color.

Price would be the cost of shipping to your destination. If you want to donate something on top of that, it's up to you. I'm fine with either. This is a limited time offer, lets say until the end of 2018.

Hey - Wow! That's cool. I'll take one!

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:44 am

Christophers wrote:
babblefish wrote:OK, if anyone needs one of those "snowflake" tools to remove an oil filter, I can print one up on my 3D printer. Since I don't have one of these filters in front of me, I would need some dimensions in millimeters: the diameter of the bump that has the slot, and the width of the slot (see picture). No choice in color.

Price would be the cost of shipping to your destination. If you want to donate something on top of that, it's up to you. I'm fine with either. This is a limited time offer, lets say until the end of 2018.
Hey - Wow! That's cool. I'll take one!

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