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Wow... wonder it this is in the brochure for new BMW bikes

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No double entendre there. The only meaning just sticks right out at you :oops:
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...yikes.
Unfortunately, even though there seems to be no proof (available to the public anyway) other than "I rode this motorcycle one day and got a raging erection that just hasn't gone away," he'll probably get a decent settlement from either of the companies to just get him to stfu. :fp:
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Just goes to show you that some BMW riders can be real litigious d**ks.
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I can't wait to see the EBay add for that bike. I'll bet he uses the USA Today headline as the only picture.
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I wonder if he'll have to show the damages to the jury?

I wonder if BMW sales will now spike upward?
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My question to the guy is this. What the frak is the problem? :lol:
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Raiderfn311 wrote:My question to the guy is this. What the frak is the problem? :lol:
It went away! :rofl: :fp:
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BMW just shot to top of my list for pricey, big fat scooters not to consider.
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I feel like I'm not usually one to laugh at or mock other's bad predicaments, but this dude is asking for it. I don't believe this shite for a second. To me this is just as dumb as the woman who sued McDonald's because her coffee burned her.

Except this involves a penis that's essentially being waved around in public because its owner is filing a giant, unprecedented lawsuit against mega corporation.

Everything about this is laughable to me. I can't see how he thinks this will go smoothly for him. Unless they do settle out of court quickly in favor of quelling bad press, like AWinn said.
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LunaP wrote:F'serious?

I feel like I'm not usually one to laugh at or mock other's bad predicaments, but this dude is asking for it. I don't believe this shite for a second. To me this is just as dumb as the woman who sued McDonald's because her coffee burned her.

Except this involves a penis that's essentially being waved around in public because its owner is filing a giant, unprecedented lawsuit against mega corporation.

Everything about this is laughable to me. I can't see how he thinks this will go smoothly for him. Unless they do settle out of court quickly in favor of quelling bad press, like AWinn said.
If you read up about the McDonald's coffee suit rather than just buying the internet/talk radio version of the incident, you might have a different opinion about it. It changed my view of it.

I don't know if this guy's condition is as he describes, or if it was caused by the motorcycle seat or not. It's conceivable that it is, and if so, it could be a serious medical problem, which are funny only when they happen to someone else. I'm sure the third-degree burns to her external genitalia weren't very funny to the woman in the coffee case. And I really doubt that this guy wanted to become a worldwide laughing stock by filing a suit that would draw attention to a problem with his dick. Sure, the headline's super funny. The story behind it... probably not so much.
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From what I've read, custom installation of aftermarket parts. Good luck getting BMW on that one...the bike's been altered from stock.
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My favorite comments:
-Sounds like the guy really got shafted.

-BMW may be facing a Stiff fine..

-Maybe he can get a sympathetic attorney to take his case pro-boner.
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TVB wrote:
LunaP wrote:F'serious?

I feel like I'm not usually one to laugh at or mock other's bad predicaments, but this dude is asking for it. I don't believe this shite for a second. To me this is just as dumb as the woman who sued McDonald's because her coffee burned her.

Except this involves a penis that's essentially being waved around in public because its owner is filing a giant, unprecedented lawsuit against mega corporation.

Everything about this is laughable to me. I can't see how he thinks this will go smoothly for him. Unless they do settle out of court quickly in favor of quelling bad press, like AWinn said.
If you read up about the McDonald's coffee suit rather than just buying the internet/talk radio version of the incident, you might have a different opinion about it. It changed my view of it.

I don't know if this guy's condition is as he describes, or if it was caused by the motorcycle seat or not. It's conceivable that it is, and if so, it could be a serious medical problem, which are funny only when they happen to someone else. I'm sure the third-degree burns to her external genitalia weren't very funny to the woman in the coffee case. And I really doubt that this guy wanted to become a worldwide laughing stock by filing a suit that would draw attention to a problem with his dick. Sure, the headline's super funny. The story behind it... probably not so much.
The McD's coffee thing was the first thing that came to my mind too.
While the woman may have suffered-- it's not rocket science that coffee is hot; especially when you buy it from a place like McD's, Dunkin, even Starbucks. It's ALWAYS super hot when they first give it to you (usually because it's not really fresh- they keep it extremely hot to keep it from tasting like old coffee when it's been in the machine for hours on end). I couldn't tell you how many times I've burned my mouth/tongue because I didn't wait long enough before I took a big ol' slurp of my white chocolate mocha.
Either way- people should not be eating or drinking in their vehicles BECAUSE it is distracting whether they are the passenger or the driver. Especially so when they spill something on themselves, whether extremely hot or not. The instant reaction is to quickly get it off before it gets soaked in and stains- not to pull over and do so, just to take ones eyes off the road and hands off the wheel at that exact moment... which is a simple recipe for disaster.

Here's my thing with this guy's case- if there wasn't something else wrong with him prior to, or closely after riding the motorcycle, you would see a lot more people having this kind of problem... and that's what is going to be the big kicker in this case. In most cases the problem is the opposite, the vibration typically tends to cause people to lose sensation in their special parts.
No one else has reported or attempted to sue a vehicle manufacturing giant because they have had a 20-month erection (at least not that we know of, and I'm sure if they did we would definitely know about it)... So WHY is this guy the only one? My bet is that he has another health problem that has lead to his misery, that had little- if anything, to do with the motorcycle itself.
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TVB wrote: If you read up about the McDonald's coffee suit rather than just buying the internet/talk radio version of the incident, you might have a different opinion about it. It changed my view of it.

I don't know if this guy's condition is as he describes, or if it was caused by the motorcycle seat or not. It's conceivable that it is, and if so, it could be a serious medical problem, which are funny only when they happen to someone else. I'm sure the third-degree burns to her external genitalia weren't very funny to the woman in the coffee case. And I really doubt that this guy wanted to become a worldwide laughing stock by filing a suit that would draw attention to a problem with his dick. Sure, the headline's super funny. The story behind it... probably not so much.
The McD's coffee thing was the first thing that came to my mind too.
While the woman may have suffered-- it's not rocket science that coffee is hot; especially when you buy it from a place like McD's, Dunkin, even Starbucks. It's ALWAYS super hot when they first give it to you (usually because it's not really fresh- they keep it extremely hot to keep it from tasting like old coffee when it's been in the machine for hours on end). I couldn't tell you how many times I've burned my mouth/tongue because I didn't wait long enough before I took a big ol' slurp of my white chocolate mocha.
Either way- people should not be eating or drinking in their vehicles BECAUSE it is distracting whether they are the passenger or the driver. Especially so when they spill something on themselves, whether extremely hot or not. The instant reaction is to quickly get it off before it gets soaked in and stains- not to pull over and do so, just to take ones eyes off the road and hands off the wheel at that exact moment... which is a simple recipe for disaster.
Somehow, I get the feeling you didn't click the link or ever actually read about the case, which would be pretty funny as TVB's first sentence is about people spouting the sensationalized version without really knowing what they're talking about. I guess when the 79-year old woman had to be hospitalized for 8 days and required skin grafts due to the third-degree burns, it's a little less funny. I also believe the car was stopped when it happened...

That aside, I agree with TVB. These things always seem a bit funny and are obviously eye-catching tidbits that are easily promoted, but sometimes the actual thing is a bit tragic. I want to say I remember something about bicycle seats in the 80's, some sort of class action lawsuit I read about.
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He got a permanent boner on his Beemer... While riding it. Sounds like a case of Beemiality if you ask me. I think that is illegal in 47 states. :shock:
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TVB wrote: If you read up about the McDonald's coffee suit rather than just buying the internet/talk radio version of the incident, you might have a different opinion about it. It changed my view of it.

I don't know if this guy's condition is as he describes, or if it was caused by the motorcycle seat or not. It's conceivable that it is, and if so, it could be a serious medical problem, which are funny only when they happen to someone else. I'm sure the third-degree burns to her external genitalia weren't very funny to the woman in the coffee case. And I really doubt that this guy wanted to become a worldwide laughing stock by filing a suit that would draw attention to a problem with his dick. Sure, the headline's super funny. The story behind it... probably not so much.
The McD's coffee thing was the first thing that came to my mind too.
While the woman may have suffered-- it's not rocket science that coffee is hot; especially when you buy it from a place like McD's, Dunkin, even Starbucks. It's ALWAYS super hot when they first give it to you (usually because it's not really fresh- they keep it extremely hot to keep it from tasting like old coffee when it's been in the machine for hours on end). I couldn't tell you how many times I've burned my mouth/tongue because I didn't wait long enough before I took a big ol' slurp of my white chocolate mocha.
Either way- people should not be eating or drinking in their vehicles BECAUSE it is distracting whether they are the passenger or the driver. Especially so when they spill something on themselves, whether extremely hot or not. The instant reaction is to quickly get it off before it gets soaked in and stains- not to pull over and do so, just to take ones eyes off the road and hands off the wheel at that exact moment... which is a simple recipe for disaster.
Somehow, I get the feeling you didn't click the link or ever actually read about the case, which would be pretty funny as TVB's first sentence is about people spouting the sensationalized version without really knowing what they're talking about. I guess when the 79-year old woman had to be hospitalized for 8 days and required skin grafts due to the third-degree burns, it's a little less funny. I also believe the car was stopped when it happened...

That aside, I agree with TVB. These things always seem a bit funny and are obviously eye-catching tidbits that are easily promoted, but sometimes the actual thing is a bit tragic. I want to say I remember something about bicycle seats in the 80's, some sort of class action lawsuit I read about.
Yeah, seriously, go read the link TVB provided. I also used to have the same opinion about the McD's coffee case until I learned more about it. There was some serious negligence on the part of McD's and that old woman did us all a favor by suing them. I'm also old enough to remember their coffee being that hot. It truly was hazardous.
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No, I've never read up on the McD's suit. Maybe I will later now that you suggest it; but I can't say that changes my opinion of the utter laughability of this whole BMW Boner Boy lawsuit. Also, if it somehow turns out that somebody is liable for his... predicament... it's not BMW, as somebody else pointed out. I can't conjure logic as to why he's going after BMW, other than to drag a corporation with some real big money into it. Smells of moneygrubbing to me.


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I knew a guy that had a hard one for 5 years. He was hit by shrapnel during a mortar attack. For 5 years after that - boing! He said it was no laughing matter. But of course, we all :lol: :lol: :lol:
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pdxrita wrote:
Edwub wrote:
AWinn6889 wrote: The McD's coffee thing was the first thing that came to my mind too.
While the woman may have suffered-- it's not rocket science that coffee is hot; especially when you buy it from a place like McD's, Dunkin, even Starbucks. It's ALWAYS super hot when they first give it to you (usually because it's not really fresh- they keep it extremely hot to keep it from tasting like old coffee when it's been in the machine for hours on end). I couldn't tell you how many times I've burned my mouth/tongue because I didn't wait long enough before I took a big ol' slurp of my white chocolate mocha.
Either way- people should not be eating or drinking in their vehicles BECAUSE it is distracting whether they are the passenger or the driver. Especially so when they spill something on themselves, whether extremely hot or not. The instant reaction is to quickly get it off before it gets soaked in and stains- not to pull over and do so, just to take ones eyes off the road and hands off the wheel at that exact moment... which is a simple recipe for disaster.
Somehow, I get the feeling you didn't click the link or ever actually read about the case, which would be pretty funny as TVB's first sentence is about people spouting the sensationalized version without really knowing what they're talking about. I guess when the 79-year old woman had to be hospitalized for 8 days and required skin grafts due to the third-degree burns, it's a little less funny. I also believe the car was stopped when it happened...

That aside, I agree with TVB. These things always seem a bit funny and are obviously eye-catching tidbits that are easily promoted, but sometimes the actual thing is a bit tragic. I want to say I remember something about bicycle seats in the 80's, some sort of class action lawsuit I read about.
Yeah, seriously, go read the link TVB provided. I also used to have the same opinion about the McD's coffee case until I learned more about it. There was some serious negligence on the part of McD's and that old woman did us all a favor by suing them. I'm also old enough to remember their coffee being that hot. It truly was hazardous.
I did read the link that TVB provided. I also never said that it was "funny."
The woman put the coffee cup between her knees and removed the lid, her grandson pulled forward, then stopped so she could put sugar and cream in it, knocking the entire cup of coffee into her lap.

Is it not common sense that coffee is hot? That spilling it on yourself is going to hurt/burn? Were there no cup holders in the car? Why didn't she get up and jump out of the car right away if it wasn't moving? Why would anyone think putting an open hot cup of coffee between their knees is a good idea?

It's pretty obvious from how much the court knocked down the amount of money she was awarded- and who knows what happened once it went to secret deliberations- that she was at at least 60% fault for the ordeal.
The woman may have been severely burned and spent some time in the hospital, that's unfortunate-- but it wasn't McDonald's fault that she was ill-minded enough to put it between her knees and spill it on herself.

I personally would NEVER even consider putting a hot cup of coffee between my knees for any reason, especially with the lid taken off, in a car or not, that's just common sense.

When you make poor decisions, bad things happen. That's life.
That's how we learn what to do and what not to do.
In some cases it is more severe than others-- but either way, that's how cavemen learned that it's a bad idea to touch fire, that's how kids know not to go near bees nests or put their hands on a stove top, it's how people learned that being on their cell phone while driving is a bad idea.
You shouldn't be able to sue a company for any amount of money because you made a poor decision (with their product) and something bad happened.
If there was something wrong with the product that ultimately led to something bad happening -then okay ...but doing something dumb or using the product improperly and suffering because of that is your own fault and responsibility, and now you learned not to do it again!

So what I'm saying is, if the coffee was hot enough to melt the styrofoam cup, or even if there was just a big hole in the cup, that led to scalding coffee being dumped on the woman, then yes, it's McD's fault and they should have to compensate for the damages.
But, like I said, McD's (and other companies) keep their coffee in a machine for hours and hours- it has to be kept really hot to maintain it's "freshness." Anyone that has had a coffee from any kind of stop n' go type of fast food place would know that (at 79 years old, I'm sure she'd stopped for a quick coffee before that day too), and would acknowledge that putting it in an open container between their knees is a bad idea, especially in a car, moving or not. If it burns your lips/mouth/tongue when you try to drink it, it's probably going to burn your legs and whatever else if it spills on you-- so you should do your best to NOT spill it.

It would be like the guy's family, (in the article from Norwalk last week- the 29 year old man that had JUST purchased and registered his brand new motorcycle only to not make it home) suing the salesman and the motorcycle company for their son's death. It was his terrible decision to even try to ride home without any experience, or a helmet- that ultimately led to his death. It wasn't the salesman's fault- he even gave the guy a helmet, it wasn't the motorcycle company's fault either, the motorcycle was brand new and functioning properly... it was the end result of a poor decision made by the consumer.
Hopefully some will learn from his death that just hopping on a motorcycle with no real experience can lead to some really terrible consequences.

Call me cold-hearted, call me a bitch-- I don't care. But if you're dumb enough to poke the bear, and not expect it to eat your head off, you need to take responsibility for your poor decision and deal with the consequences when it does.


All this said- we don't even know any details about boner guy here.
It's most likely that he had something else wrong with him previous to his motorcycle ride, whether the motorcycle had anything to do with his current predicament is questionable as he seems to be the only person with this problem. We'll see what happens with this case if it doesn't disappear behind closed corporate doors.
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AWinn6889 wrote: Were there no cup holders in the car?
I can agree to disagree on this one. Just want to point out that when this happened, back in 1992, not all cars were equipped with cup holders. I put drinks between my legs many a time before I had the luxury of updating to a car with a cup holder. So, yeah, this could have happened to me.
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The guy didn't put a cup between his legs... He put a powerful vibrating motor there and he got a uber b_ner. There are just too many possible jokes about that to be able to count... Has it made it to Letterman or Leno... Or Craig Ferguson yet?
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pdxrita wrote:
AWinn6889 wrote: Were there no cup holders in the car?
I can agree to disagree on this one. Just want to point out that when this happened, back in 1992, not all cars were equipped with cup holders. I put drinks between my legs many a time before I had the luxury of updating to a car with a cup holder. So, yeah, this could have happened to me.
Well all I can say is that my 1992 Grand Am GT Coupe- at sports car at the time- had cup holders. It didn't have a tape deck or air bags... but it DID have cup holders. As did my sister's 1990 Buick and my 1993 Geo Prizm.
Maybe GM was the only company with that revolutionary idea at the time? Who knows.
That said- when I did not have access to a cup holder I put my drinks between my feet. Yes, her feet still would have been burned--- but that brings us back to the lid being off of the cup.


Edit: My mom's 1990, 91 and 93 mazda proteges and dad's toyota camries from 1992 and 1994 had cup holders, I remember because my older sister broke them in the 92.
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If you don't mind a personal question, how old were you in Feb. 1992?

In 1992, there were only 158 Starbucks. This was pre-massive coffee place expansion, much less drive-through coffee-based drinks being as common as they are today.

I don't disagree that people should be careful (who would), but it does seem a little scary that beverages were being served at near-boiling, with nothing more than a 'caution: hot' printed on one side of the cup.

Whether a 79 year old woman carelessly spilled her coffee isn't as important, when people talk about this, as the fact that she was handed something near-boiling without any inclination or real warning. The fact that a spill in the first two minutes of something you're about to drink could send you to a hospital was, and is, disturbing.

I don't doubt that you have indeed scalded yourself by taking "big ol' slurps of your white chocolate mocha", but this woman had third-degree burns and required skin grafts. I imagine if your white chocolate mocha was served at the same temperature, your mouth and throat would have suffered worse than a scalding.

Honestly, events like this were what led to better warning signs, and even though we glance past those, it leads to general public awareness (as well as changes in service). Super super hot coffee was too hot, but we now know hot coffee is hot! Places serve it at a lower temperature, put it in a different type of cup (usually paper/plastic derived). In addition to the plastic lids which now have a little punctured vent to prevent steam buildup. Styrofoam cups insulate and hold heat in. But...the "new" cups are hot to the touch, right? Too hot to hold, at times, which is why we use those cardboard holders. That ouch does two things 1) it reminds you the drink you're about to put in your mouth is hot (a physical warning, more effective than what's printed onto a cup) 2) it allows the heat to dissipate quicker, bringing the drink down into a drinkable range. Styrofoam cups failed at both of those, it held the heat in longer while seeming fine from the outside.

Anyway, smoking is bad. Drinking while pregnant is bad. Drinking before driving is bad. The more time passes, the more things eventually add up in the "DUHH common sense" pile. It might seem silly, but in hindsight, few things don't.
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Yeah, but there's got to be a point at which you reap the "rewards" of stupidity without recourse to blame-shifting. There's a huge difference between a "Bridge Out" sign on the road, and a "Do Not Eat" warning on a packet of dessicant.
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My wives cousin won a fairly large settlement against McDonald's.The cousin ordered 4 coffee's pulled up to the drive up and when the McDonald's worker handed the cousin the coffees the cup holder collapsed.All 4 coffees spilled onto the cousins lap.One aspect of this case was the worler knew prior that the cup holder was torn but still used it.The cousin suffered 3rd degree burns and is permanently scarred down there. I believe the cousin signed a hush order as part of her settlement.I imagine there are numerous cases of pain and suffering caused by negligence that we will never know about.
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McDonald's coffee used to be RIDICULOUSLY HOT! Absurdly so. I could never figure out why. But that being said, I have to agree with AWinn.

One nice thing about that absurdly hot coffee was you could throw in a bunch of cold milk and it would still be nice and hot. Most places if you throw in cold milk, your coffee will immediately get cold.
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Edwub wrote: I don't doubt that you have indeed scalded yourself by taking "big ol' slurps of your white chocolate mocha", but this woman had third-degree burns and required skin grafts. I imagine if your white chocolate mocha was served at the same temperature, your mouth and throat would have suffered worse than a scalding.
I'm not saying that burning my mouth from some coffee is anything like getting 3rd degree burns on my lady parts or elsewhere- it's not.
The point is that one should think to oneself before putting oneself at the risk of being burnt that coffee is HOT.
(I doubt that it wasn't hot before 1992 when this woman spilled it on herself... so there's no excuse.)
Because of this, I usually wait a good 5-10 minutes before I even try to take a sip of coffee when I get it from a fast food type place, and sometimes I still get burned. That tells me that yeah, it was pretty effin hot when they gave it to me- and the person handing it to me doesn't say "be careful, this is going to burn the shit out of your throat if you try to drink it right now," there is a "Caution: Contents may be hot" on the cup.
I just use my common sense and therefore know better than to drink my coffee right after they hand it to me.

Whether she required skin grafts or not- it was still a bad idea to set a cup of hot coffee between her knees with the lid off. Plain and simple.
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When I saw this I was afraid my BMW might have the same effect on me. However, my friends assured me that riding a scooter has completely negated this effect by completely removing any hint
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