How do i use the front facing blinkers?

uklemond · Post by **uklemond** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:53 pm

Just a a quick question and possibly a stupid one, but I'm new so learning as i go.

I note that on the front of the Buddy there are blinkers under the handlebars that operate fine. However lower down on the front there are also what i assume to be more blinkers, as there are orange bulbs in them. However when i turn on the indicator or the hazards, neither trigger these to activate.

Are they decoration only or is this another thing for the dealer to investigate and repair?

amy · Post by **amy** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:59 pm

As I understand it, they were the original blinkers but the DOT had it changed to the upper blinkers for safety reasons.

There are kits that you can buy that enable you to use the original ones in addition to the top blinkers.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:29 pm

This: http://voodooscooterparts.com/

ThreeSheets · Post by **ThreeSheets** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:35 pm

they are on there for various country's that PGO/Genuine sells in. They use different laws on where the lights should be ect. So instead they just stick both sets on the bike and hook up whatever one is going to what market.

TVB · Post by **TVB** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:49 pm

In most countries where this model is sold, those lights are hooked up to act as blinkers. However they don't meet US DOT specs for blinkers (not far enough part), so Genuine has PGO (the manufacturer) add the handlebar blinkers and wire those up instead. This leaves the standard blinkers dark, so they're nicknamed "deadlights".

It's not especially difficult to connect the deadlights to also work as blinkers. Hooking them up as running lights (on all the time) is possible as well, but puts more drain on the electrical system, so requires additional modifications (bulbs/battery).

Edwub · Post by **Edwub** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:52 pm

PeteH wrote:This: http://voodooscooterparts.com/

What!
"Sorry, VoodooScooterParts.com is indefinitely closed."

Capt_Don · Post by **Capt_Don** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:29 pm

That sucks...

I wonder if I get them hooked up by the dealer if it hurts the warranty. More flashing at a turn and caution could not be bad.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:41 pm

Edwub wrote:
PeteH wrote:This: http://voodooscooterparts.com/
What!
"Sorry, VoodooScooterParts.com is indefinitely closed."

Whoa. I thought LilBuddy said he transitioned it to some other folks, not shut it down.......

[Edit] Aha. Found it. Here's the new detail:

5/1/2012
Due to some personal reasons and life challenges, my involvement with Voodoo Scooter Parts LLC has ended. I have closed down VoodooScooterParts.com but a good friend/business partner of mine will continue making the products available here. Please direct any questions, comments or orders to member name VSP. Thank you all for your support over the years.

Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:00 pm

In Canada, PGO's also have rear blinkers added to the license plate bracket.

SYMbionic Duo · Post by **SYMbionic Duo** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:08 pm

If you take the front cover off the wires to connect the "deadlights" are just sitting there.

if you use them instead of the DOT "lolipops" your lights will flash quickly. this can be solved by changing the bulbs on the "deadlights", or getting a different flasher unit.

-duo

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:16 pm

There is a switch near the left hand grip.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:42 pm

SYMbionic Duo wrote:If you take the front cover off the wires to connect the "deadlights" are just sitting there.

if you use them instead of the DOT "lolipops" your lights will flash quickly. this can be solved by changing the bulbs on the "deadlights", or getting a different flasher unit.

-duo

I don't think that's true, as both the DOT lights and the body lights are incandescent - swapping one for the other _shouldn't_ affect the flasher unit's sensed resistance. However, changing the load (like maybe by switching to all LEDs front and rear) will require a new flasher unit.

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:44 pm

Just take the front off and use a wire tap connector. The DOT and Dead Lights will both work. About $3 for connectors and wire

Hwarang · Post by **Hwarang** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:49 pm

FYI if you just want to rip the DOT lights off and hook the deadlights up, it's a 5 minute job that requires no additional parts, and just a screwdriver to get the buddy front plate off. Unplug the dot lights, plug in the deadlights. Easy peasy.

pdxrita · Post by **pdxrita** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:54 pm

PeteH wrote:
Edwub wrote:
PeteH wrote:This: http://voodooscooterparts.com/
What!
"Sorry, VoodooScooterParts.com is indefinitely closed."
Whoa. I thought LilBuddy said he transitioned it to some other folks, not shut it down.......

[Edit] Aha. Found it. Here's the new detail:

5/1/2012
Due to some personal reasons and life challenges, my involvement with Voodoo Scooter Parts LLC has ended. I have closed down VoodooScooterParts.com but a good friend/business partner of mine will continue making the products available here. Please direct any questions, comments or orders to member name VSP. Thank you all for your support over the years.

I just ordered from the website a couple of weeks ago and got my part. I knew he had transitioned it to another person, but I didn't know that he didn't transition the site. Anyhow, details on how to order now are located in this thread:
topic21860.html

nickcornaglia · Post by **nickcornaglia** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:11 am

I just wire tapped mine today...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2fWfbqQrs