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Half Helmet & Goggles - A different experience!!!

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I recently bought these goggles:
http://www.globalvision.us/catalog/goggles/big-ben-a-f

And this helmet today:
http://www.gmaxhelmet.com/GM35S-N.html

I've always worn a full face helmet but wanted a more open air experience. Wow, what a difference. Compared to the full face helmet, it's like wearing nothing at all.

The goggle are gigantic and made to wear eyeglasses under them, I bought them for a greater field of view and I like the oversized look. I love em!
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Safety wise, nothing beats a full face. However, it's always good to enjoy the open wind from time to time. Nice choices btw.
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Yeah, most of the year I have a GMax 68S, which has good ventilation but can still be hot when it's over 95F, let me tell ya. The Mrs. bought me a Bell Custom 500 50th anniversary re-issue, 3/4 classic 3-snap, in orange metalflake, of course! I've put a clear plastic flip-up shield/visor on it, and it's a good bit cooler on the super-hot days, despite being unvented. So yes, I'm compromising. I wear the Bell on my short commute when it's really hot, and the GMax the rest of the time.
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Where did you buy the goggles ? Are there any other styles they make that go over glasses ?
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I know a full face helmet it the best for safety...but I talked myself into the half helmet (originally went out looking for a 3/4 helmet) because most of my riding is on slower local roads and I'm almost never on a highway.
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kooky scientist wrote:Where did you buy the goggles ? Are there any other styles they make that go over glasses ?
I bought the goggles on ebay. Search for "Big Ben Goggles". Not sure about other oversized styles my they make plenty of different goggles. (Quality is pretty decent as well).
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I like 1/2's OK. But I never wear one. Did when I was a newbie rider. 3/4 does the trick fine for me. And I think I would personally look goofy in a 1/2 with goggles. Not goofy to others, but in the mirror! :(

I like these with goggles, though. Gotta go back to SparX all the time cause I like their helmets so :)

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Kinda 3/4ish but kinda 1/2ish, too. imo
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Thats enough to make me regret my decision! NICE!
(I look goofy in the half helmet and goggles too....but that was kind of the look I was going for...or at least the look I was expecting).
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Oh no regrets. Just excuses to buy more helmets! :D :helmet:
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I think there are WAY too many scooter riders who are so pent up about safety that they're just afraid of the world. Of course, there's the other side who think flip flops and shorts are a great riding attire choice and make scooter riders all look bad too. You are riding something that has inherent risks. Should you be reckless? No. But should you layer yourself head to toe in Health and Safety yellow with multiple layers of kevlar over an "airbag vest" with Fox riding boots, kevlar riding pants, knee sliders and a full spine plate? If that's your thing... but if you go through all of that, why not just get a compact car and have done with the whole "thrill of riding"?

Me? I ride within my abilities (most of the time) and try to be as safe as comfortably possible. I honestly prefer open face helmets. Always have. Yes, I've been in two severe motorcycle accidents (one with a 3/4 and one in a full face) and I know the constant need for safety. But, I'm also not going to let that get in the way of enjoying what I ride. It's why I still love Stellas and P-series bikes: They are NOT safe machines, but they do their job great and have that connected-to-the-machine feel. I have a full face, and I have an open face. I have an armored kevlar jacket, and I fully admit to riding in just a shirt (and pants of course) as well. Always wear boots due to my job, so that's never an issue.

I've been thinking about a nice goggled 3/4 when I pick up a Stella in two months. I *really* fell in love with the idea of a sliver Bell 500 and a mirrored bubble shield. Very "Daft Punk" in a retro sense. But, the Bell 500 doesn't fit worth a damn on my head :cry: It's a shame because they finally stopped making their lids from cheap Chinese factories and went back to fiberglass (better choice IMHO). I've seen a few good ones out there, and will probably opt for a bubble shield rather than goggles since I wear glasses and like the idea of a little air around the face much like in a standard full face helmet. Goggles can get claustrophobic at times.
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I'm guilty of being under dressed for riding (I often wear shorts...no flip-flops tho) and I have been in a small bike accident in the past. But like you said...I ride within my limits, locally and at practical speeds.
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nickcornaglia wrote:I'm guilty of being under dressed for riding (I often wear shorts...no flip-flops tho) and I have been in a small bike accident in the past. But like you said...I ride within my limits, locally and at practical speeds.
Well, I should amend "within my limits" to "I know how much this could cost, so I'll be an adult about it and play it as a compromise". Any speed can be deadly, and I don't believe that 25mph is less deadly than 50mph if you don't have the right gear. But, sometimes you just need to live a little and not be a hand wringer.

That's not to say I've given up looking for the best deal on "attractive" everyday kevlar jeans and thinking about putting CE armor in an Ike jacket.
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PeteH wrote:Yeah, most of the year I have a GMax 68S, which has good ventilation but can still be hot when it's over 95F, let me tell ya. The Mrs. bought me a Bell Custom 500 50th anniversary re-issue, 3/4 classic 3-snap, in orange metalflake, of course! I've put a clear plastic flip-up shield/visor on it, and it's a good bit cooler on the super-hot days, despite being unvented. So yes, I'm compromising. I wear the Bell on my short commute when it's really hot, and the GMax the rest of the time.
I've got the Gmax too. All those vents do have some effect but my head still gets hot in the summer.

Would love to go back to an open face but can't quite make myself do it. This even though I don't own armored pants and doff the armored mesh jacket when it gets really hot. I'm gonna feel really stupid when I go down with that thing stuffed in the trunk.
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neotrotsky wrote:ayer yourself head to toe in Health and Safety yellow with multiple layers of kevlar over an "airbag vest" with Fox riding boots, kevlar riding pants, knee sliders and a full spine plate?
I've ridden with a guy who meets and possibly exceeds that description.

Then again if I had a MP3 and could go as fast as he could go then maybe I'd have that much gear too?
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Then again if I had a MP3 and could go as fast as he could go then maybe I'd have that much gear too?
Not to beat it to death, but, as neotrotsky said:
I don't believe that 25mph is less deadly than 50mph if you don't have the right gear.
Years (ahem, decades) ago, a car pulled out in front of me when I was on my motorcycle. I did my damnedest to swerve around him and brake but still ended up hitting his car. Even though I had slowed to maybe 20 mph I still flew over his Mustang sans motorcycle and landed on my face. It was pretty ugly but now I have an excuse. I was wearing a full face helmet but it was pushed up enough that my face and jaw took the brunt of the impact. Spent some time in surgery and ICU. You don't need the gory details.

That said, I have rode many times in the Summer without my jacket. Most afternoons lately, to be honest, even though I have my mesh with me and wore it that same morning. I still wear jeans and boots that cover my ankles and almost always wear gloves.
I know the risk but still take it. It's what we do. Live life; don't fear it.
Even with my past.

Love the new helmet and goggles, nickcornaglia! Ride on.
I dig that Sparx, too, JHScoot.
I've been looking for a half helmet and recently bought a Skid-Lid Classic Cruiser. I ended up returning it because (despite reviews to the contrary) it fit me like a mushroom. I think I may just go for the extra money and get the Scorpion EXO 100; I've always loved the look of that helmet.
Until then, my head will be baking in my matte black Fulmer AF D4 while Denver is roasting in the 90's.

Those are my opinions and experiences but these are facts:
The asphalt doesn't care what you are/were riding when you go to meet it.
You can get hurt pretty bad at some darned low speeds.
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I used to ride a harley before the helmet law in calif.So to me a half helmet feels the same. I like the wind ,and living on the edge feeling.If I want to wear full body armor I might as well stay at home.my 2 cents
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I like what JHScoot posted, nice setup! I use an HJC IS-Max, most of my lower speed city riding, I have the face piece up and the sun shields down. I'll easily transition between city riding and more fast paced highways. It's nice to have the best of both worlds, but the heavier helmet is the only downside.
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I like the feel of the 3/4 helmets so much better BUT... If I'm going further away from home in traffic I wear a full face. In the evening when it's quiet and I'm close to home on a slow street I wear the 3/4 and a denim jacket, gloves, boots, instead of the armor. Some photo shoots too... Can't use my camera easily with an FFModular. Plus the FFs are a disaster with my glasses. I keep asking myself which is safer... 3/4 and clear glasses or FF and having
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I was going less than 20 when I crashed on my Arrow, and that asphalt still hurt, I still had to dig it out of my skin, and I was still sore the next day... I wear a 3/4 with a face shield, but I won't lie, a half helmet with goggles would make me feel like the Red Barron! It is temping...
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[quote] I think I may just go for the extra money and get the Scorpion EXO 100; I've always loved the look of that helmet.
Until then, my head will be baking in my matte black Fulmer AF D4 while Denver is roasting in the 90's.



The Scorpion EXO 100 is the helmet I just got. We bought two Buddy 170i's so the shop told us to pick two helmets. Not only did I like the look of it, it's really very comfortable! It offers more protection than just a standard 1/2 and it's got the flip down visor (though that part makes me think I'm in a Star Wars fighter helmet! Sticking to goggles so far...
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I don't care what you wear, and you may never have an accident in your entire life, but (IMHO) you oughta wear earplugs, 'cause unlike a bad haircut your hearing never grows back.
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Syd wrote:I don't care what you wear, and you may never have an accident in your entire life, but (IMHO) you oughta wear earplugs, 'cause unlike a bad haircut your hearing never grows back.
THIS this this. Plugs should be considered under any helmet, but ESP if you helmet does not cover your ears, do yourself a solid.

I like the look of goggles, I secretly had in mind I may eventually get a pair- my first cupcake helmet had no shield on it at all. When Lokky bought me a new helmet that actually fit for my bday last summer, I picked out a low-cost basic Fulmer model that came with a shield and WOW what a difference! I'd been getting headaches on long rides from the wind and pressure... and I wasn't the one driving.

Then I got my own bike, rode in ANY kind of weather in that helmet, and went down 2 different times where that visor saved my face. I know I'd have some psych problems stuffing my face into a FF, but I will now NEVER wear anything without a visor that comes to my chin. My face is worth more to me than not feeling stuffy. Different strokes, different folks... but I just shake my head and hope for them every time I see somebody on the road under-dressed or with a brain bucket on. I learned the hard way and it wasn't even my fault... you can be doing everything right on the road and be going 25mph, and still have your world turned upside down in a matter of seconds.

But I DO like how goggles look. Can't help it, I guess. :o
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klr6773 wrote:
I think I may just go for the extra money and get the Scorpion EXO 100; I've always loved the look of that helmet.
Until then, my head will be baking in my matte black Fulmer AF D4 while Denver is roasting in the 90's.



The Scorpion EXO 100 is the helmet I just got. We bought two Buddy 170i's so the shop told us to pick two helmets. Not only did I like the look of it, it's really very comfortable! It offers more protection than just a standard 1/2 and it's got the flip down visor (though that part makes me think I'm in a Star Wars fighter helmet! Sticking to goggles so far...
The EXO-100 is an excellent helmet! It's the open face I wear, and it's held up beautifully. Good ventilation and very comfortable, and the liner is removable and washable. I took the front bill-visor-thing off mine simply because it looks less like a cop helmet, but I do wish they made clear flip down visors in a rounded style instead of the one angular tinted style. If I can't find a 3/4 that I like, I will probably go with another EXO-100 again
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Rode with a half helmet and goggles for years. Being that I wear prescription glasses now the goggle fitment thing became difficult, I opted for a pair of (old style) military issue wind/dust goggles BOY did I look like a world class goof!! Didn't bother me but.......
Still I hunt the 'perfect' pair, I need to look into what you show.

As it is now, I wear a 3/4 with a face shield, I get claustrophobic in a full face.
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For a half I recently bought the HJC IS-2 Solid Anthracite with integrated sun shield.

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Decent price, listed as $89 but was reduced to $84, my local was having some kind of pre-summer sale.
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I don't believe that 25mph is less deadly than 50mph if you don't have the right gear.
Of course it is. You can be killed or seriously injured at either speed, but with greater speed the chances of an accident go up, and the expected severity of it goes up. There's enough risk at 25mph to make gear necessary, but going faster does call for better.

I prefer a 3/4 over a 1/2 , not just for protection but for comfort. The 1/2 depends entirely on the chin strap to hold it in position on your head, which requires it to be pretty tight, but the 3/4 stays in position with less pressure from the strap.
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Oh, I should add that for the metalflake Bell 500, I use either that aforementioned 3-snap swing-up clear shield (which goes down to my chin), or I also have a set of Bobster Cruiser 2 goggles (with three sets of lenses):

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They're comfortable and seal up nicely, and the vent holes keep the fog down. I wear the strap under the helmet - I'm not sure it's long enough to go on over the helmet.

For the GMax 68S, I have both clear and smoked face shields, but I've taken to wearing the clear shield and (optional) sunglasses underneath. This overall combination works well if I've left the house in bright light but come home after dark. No way do I want to carry around another shield in the pet carrier. The face opening on the GMax makes it very easy to slip on a pair of glasses after putting on the helmet.
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PeteH wrote:They're comfortable and seal up nicely, and the vent holes keep the fog down. I wear the strap under the helmet - I'm not sure it's long enough to go on over the helmet.
I use these too and I wear the strap under the helmet as well. Been thinking about trying it out on the outside but am worried about them possibly slipping up the back and off the top of the helmet and watching them fly off my face. Had a gnat or something get in my right lens through a vent hole a couple days ago too and couldn't pull over. It was fun driving like a pirate.

I do have to say that the added strap pressure from a half helmet is annoying and I may have looked more at a 3/4 knowing this up front. BMPH+bug speed=stings like hell when hit in the face.
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JHScoot wrote:I like 1/2's OK. But I never wear one. Did when I was a newbie rider. 3/4 does the trick fine for me. And I think I would personally look goofy in a 1/2 with goggles. Not goofy to others, but in the mirror! :(

I like these with goggles, though. Gotta go back to SparX all the time cause I like their helmets so :)

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Kinda 3/4ish but kinda 1/2ish, too. imo
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neotrotsky wrote:. Goggles can get claustrophobic at times.
I wanted to wear goggles over my glasses, but they shove my glasses into my face, causing my glasses to be nothing but eyelid-prints :-(
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I only have a FF helmet, though I have looked at some others enviously. I'm rocking a Scorpion 1100 that replaced the 1000 after a minor accident. Angela has the 500. They're light enough that I don't mind them, where as the 1000 was very heavy.

I too have been guilty of wearing a shirt, gloves, and helmet on short jaunts. that's where a ton of accidents happen, and I would really love to wear a jacket constantly, but even mesh at 100 degrees is too much when you're in stop'n'go for me.

The downside is that we're seeing accidents more frequently as more people get on 2 wheels. I just strive to be a good rider/driver and do my best to lower the statistics as best I can.
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Syd wrote:I don't care what you wear, and you may never have an accident in your entire life, but (IMHO) you oughta wear earplugs, 'cause unlike a bad haircut your hearing never grows back.
I have the GMax 35S 1/2 with a removable neck, ear cushion apron for colder weather. I leave it attched all the time covers the ears and helps keep the back of the neck from sunburn and makes the helmet sturdier and little more cushion. It also has a retractable sun shield that goes up inside the shell of the helmet and can wear prescription glasses under. Quick to use and get best of both worlds when need to block the sun glare
or carry a separate pair of sunglasses.
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I LOVE retractable sun visors! Cheesey but they work, even if I forget or don't want to carry my prescription sunglasses, or want another layer to protect my eyes.
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50CC Cape Cod wrote:
Syd wrote:I don't care what you wear, and you may never have an accident in your entire life, but (IMHO) you oughta wear earplugs, 'cause unlike a bad haircut your hearing never grows back.
I have the GMax 35S 1/2 with a removable neck, ear cushion apron for colder weather. I leave it attched all the time covers the ears and helps keep the back of the neck from sunburn and makes the helmet sturdier and little more cushion. It also has a retractable sun shield that goes up inside the shell of the helmet and can wear prescription glasses under. Quick to use and get best of both worlds when need to block the sun glare
or carry a separate pair of sunglasses.
That's the helmet I have. I didn't even know it had the retractable shades until later! Did I write the wrong model number in my first post?
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batgirl101 wrote:
JHScoot wrote:I like 1/2's OK. But I never wear one. Did when I was a newbie rider. 3/4 does the trick fine for me. And I think I would personally look goofy in a 1/2 with goggles. Not goofy to others, but in the mirror! :(

I like these with goggles, though. Gotta go back to SparX all the time cause I like their helmets so :)

:helmet:

Kinda 3/4ish but kinda 1/2ish, too. imo
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ha. I can see the new thread now...."Couldn't Decide, I Bought Three!

I like these for scooters. Kind of bold. Will certainly get noticed. The goggles do make a helmet look like a.....helmet. Also, these are big helmets. Not near 1/2. Full 3/4 size. So if demure is what a rider wants....nope.

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I prefer having a shield on my 3/4's. But you never know? And it most likely protects from nothing more then bird poo. But having my entire face covered if I choose is a choice I want

However, I could still wear goggles. Darn it. Amazon, here I come. Gotta admit my glasses do fit all my helmets. But the fit is not perfect with the ears. I don't like that. So something with a strap. sure.
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After a decade or so of riding motorcycles with full fairings, I got a scooter without one. As it was rather warm that time of year, I started out riding it with a half-helmet and goggles setup that worked just fine behind a fairing -- and found the wind noise was intolerable above 35 MPH! Switched back to a much quieter 3/4 helmet with an integral full face shield as soon as I could.
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love the Outlaw, it would match Max, but i've got like 8 helmets already, my girl will kill me if i bring yet another!
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nothing feels as free as a half helmet.at 50 mph it feels like 90 mph,just like your sitting on the hood of a car.I feel your safety concerns but I like life on the edge,yes I have crashed!
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I will wear my 1/2 today and see if i feel the difference. It's been awhile. I don't remember a huge difference in perceiving my surroundings or experience of ride. But maybe I have just forgotten? I have never missed the 1/2, though.
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batgirl101 wrote:love the Outlaw, it would match Max, but i've got like 8 helmets already, my girl will kill me if i bring yet another!
8 helmets does sound rather a lot but then again, you don't wear the same shoes all the time, do you? Try that analogy.



As to the view, the only thing I miss seeing is down. To the side is fine.
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nickcornaglia wrote:
50CC Cape Cod wrote:
Syd wrote:I don't care what you wear, and you may never have an accident in your entire life, but (IMHO) you oughta wear earplugs, 'cause unlike a bad haircut your hearing never grows back.
I have the GMax 35S 1/2

That's the helmet I have. I didn't even know it had the retractable shades until later! Did I write the wrong model number in my first post?
I wrote the wrong number it is a GMax 55S which makes riding a lot easier
on the eyes.
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i'm a newbie, so i don't have experience with all the different types of helmets. i did learn a very important lesson today, though. i have a 3/4 helmet with a face shield that comes down in front, so it's convenient when you want to talk with someone, you can lift it up. my shield is so clear you can hardly tell it's there. so, the lesson i learned today? don't try to spit out your gum with your face shield down!! glad nobody saw me with gum stuck to the inside of my shield!!
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Anybody ever checked out the very expensive Nexx helmets?
They have one with stainless steel mesh so air flows right through the helmet.
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Diblit wrote:so, the lesson i learned today? don't try to spit out your gum with your face shield down!! glad nobody saw me with gum stuck to the inside of my shield!!
I've done that a few times spitting out... um... spit. One reason I like the shield that doesn't quite cover my whole face.
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Tocsik wrote:Anybody ever checked out the very expensive Nexx helmets?
They have one with stainless steel mesh so air flows right through the helmet.
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wow.....And I am thinking my Vemar CKQI is a vast improvement. Well it is. It fits and my head does not feel like it is being sqashed. The airflow must be fantastic in that helmet
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Post by Southerner »

That looks just about cool enough to tempt me out of my full face.

Is that thing at least DOT-certified and how expensive is 'very expensive?'

Ahh. Answered my own question. DOT and about $300. Definitely not cheap but not stratospheric like an Arai, either.
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Southerner wrote:That looks just about cool enough to tempt me out of my full face.

Is that thing at least DOT-certified and how expensive is 'very expensive?'

Ahh. Answered my own question. DOT and about $300. Definitely not cheap but not stratospheric like an Arai, either.
Not *that* expensive. A decent Nolan 3/4 will cost you north of $200. If it has a great fit, I would call it worth it.
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Those Nexx helmets are PRETTY
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