Buddy 125 MRP pipe?

toga28 · Post by **toga28** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:48 pm

Saw the MRP ad in Scoot! that said they have a racing pipe for the Buddy 125. Has anyone tried this out? What's the word on MRP's parts as a whole? General opinions of buying the MRP pipe vs. the Prima pipe?

Keys · Post by **Keys** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:13 pm

I know dealers who won't have anything to do with MRP because of quality and customer service issues. I personally have in my possession a belt from MRP that was advertised to fit the Buddy 125. Yes. It fits...but it sapped about 20% of my power because the angle was wrong. The length and width were correct, but the angle apparently was wrong enough to adversely affect my performance.

--Keys

solo_movement · Post by **solo_movement** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:06 pm

So, I'm a little excited about the MRP pipe because Prima screwed up and changed their original Buddy pipe design. Prima's new pipe did exactly what you are talking about, Keys.
The original Prima pipe rocked socks!

I hope the MRP isn't as bad as you say! That'd leave no hope for me and my Buddy.

solo_movement · Post by **solo_movement** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:09 pm

Oops, I thought you were talking about the pipe! You were talking about the belt.

Anyhow, the Prima pipe is no longer any good. I'm willing to risk some dollars to find out about the MRP pipe. They personally suck, but they do specialize in racing products. *crosses fingers*

jetboy · Post by **jetboy** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:11 pm

solo_movement wrote:So, I'm a little excited about the MRP pipe because Prima screwed up and changed their original Buddy pipe design. Prima's new pipe did exactly what you are talking about, Keys.
The original Prima pipe rocked socks!

I hope the MRP isn't as bad as you say! That'd leave no hope for me and my Buddy.

Do tell more about the change in the Prima pipe design. First I've heard of it. Which bums me out greatly as I really had my eye on getting one closer to the spring.

-jetboy

SCOOTER SOLDIER · Post by **SCOOTER SOLDIER** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:37 pm

I have heard the exact same thing about MRP, they wont talk to anyone but the dealers and from what I heard from one dealer that is because they want to put all warranty issues and problems directly back on the dealer, and I also heard that the parts they have are substandard junk from china etc...

And that explains why they refuse to take calls from the public, the dealer I spoke with did not speak highly of MRP and he gave me some details on who the owner is and how MRP came to be so he has the goods on these guys, I tried calling MRP to inquire about one of their products and the guy practically hung up on me because I was not a dealer.........that was enough for me, I wont be buying any parts from them.

toga28 · Post by **toga28** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:07 pm

i've had the same impression of MRP from my sources (and my own experience, however limited). even their ad in Scoot! seemed to be...trying a little too hard to get noticed, if you know what i mean?

solo, if you do end up getting the MRP pipe, please post about it. who knows, maybe they have one or two decent products here and there, and maybe this is one of them. or not.

and i'd like to hear more changes about the prima pipe as well. if it has indeed changed, then i may have to back up and reconsider getting a new stella when they arrive instead of continuing to upgrade my buddy...

weaseltamer · Post by **weaseltamer** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:31 pm

so i'm confused... has there been a change in the Prima pipe? i also had a loving eye towards getting one sometime.... even if it isn't as soon as spring.

solo_movement · Post by **solo_movement** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:35 pm

So the reason I know about the Prima pipe...

I work at a scooter shop in NM. We had been told about the Prima pipes when they first came out for the Buddy 125, so we ordered one. We let it sit here for a while before we put it on anything. After a few months put it on the bosses pink buddy. It rocked!!!!

We ordered more. They came and they were a little different in the design and mounting. A customer had heard us talking up the first one, so we put the new one on her bike. It made her bike run a lot worse. We ended up taking it off, putting the stock pipe back on, and re-jetting the engine (that bad).

We talked to Scooterworks a lot, but we don't know the whole story of why it changed and if we'll be seeing a new one from Prima. I'd much rather deal with Scooterworks than MRP, but if MRP comes out with something reasonable, I'll bite.

We have a customer in right now who is thinking of ordering one from MRP, so hopefully we'll know soon.

rajron · Post by **rajron** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:31 pm

The original pipe was put back on………….
Why did you have to re-jet the stock scoot?

There has to be more to the story.

jetboy · Post by **jetboy** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:09 am

solo_movement wrote:They came and they were a little different in the design and mounting. A customer had heard us talking up the first one, so we put the new one on her bike. It made her bike run a lot worse. We ended up taking it off, putting the stock pipe back on, and re-jetting the engine (that bad).

Assuming a change in mounting is not going to have an effect on the performance (perhaps the long-term structural integrity), what specifically has changed in the design? I guess I'd still like some more details.

Oh yeah - the jetting issue is unclear for me too.

-jetboy

solo_movement · Post by **solo_movement** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:47 pm

So, admittedly, I'm no expert. I'm just your everyday humble sales/ office girl. But I did remember correctly in thinking that we re-jetted the carb. The work order stated "to compensate for exhaust". So, maybe I made it sound a bit dramatic

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Partially, it sometimes can boost performance in a scooter here, given high altitude, but also, I think it was to help after the loss in power with the Prima pipe.

I don't want to sound like Prima is no good. I just hope they bring the old pipe back, or come out with a better design.

Oh, and the pipe's output hole was a lot smaller than it's predecessor. The whole pipe was thinner. I have no idea what effect this would or wouldn't have, but it did have an effect. And as far as I'm told, we weren't the only one's who thought so. I think other dealers ran into stuff.

Oh, I may become the guinea pig for the MRP pipe. I'll keep y'all posted.

polianarchy · Post by **polianarchy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:45 pm

solo_movement wrote:I don't want to sound like Prima is no good. I just hope they bring the old pipe back, or come out with a better design.

Oh, and the pipe's output hole was a lot smaller than it's predecessor. The whole pipe was thinner. I have no idea what effect this would or wouldn't have, but it did have an effect. And as far as I'm told, we weren't the only one's who thought so. I think other dealers ran into stuff.

I was going to ask you if maybe the pipe y'all had could've been a "lemon" of sorts, but you say that other dealers experienced the same thing. Hmmm. Could it have been an error at distribution? Because why would Prima make two totally different pipes for the same scooter? It doesn't make sense, from a retail standpoint. I'm baffled by this, but then I'm still fairly n00b to the scooter world.

rajron · Post by **rajron** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:24 am

solo-movement;

Yea Santa Fe is a high altitude city so the thin air must have an effect on performance and such – and a smaller exhaust exit almost seems contrary to adding performance – you may be on to something, didn’t realize there was a change in the original Prima exhaust pipe.
Do you work at Century? – I got my windscreen from them.

solo_movement · Post by **solo_movement** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:10 pm

It's actually Centaur, but yeah, that'd be the one. Happy to provide a windscreen for you

! Did you get your Buddy at New Urban?

rajron · Post by **rajron** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:07 pm

Oops never noticed the name – you guys had it before New Urban Transport got them.
Yea I got the scoot from New Urban Transport, Nick – everyone loves Nick.
He was the one that put the original style Prima pipe on for me.
by the way you might mention to him that I noticed that he seems to be riding the motorcycle more than the scoot nowdays………