New roller weights = void warranty?

[NathanielSalzman]

I'm just curious if anybody has any official info on what does and does not screw up your Genuine warranty. I'm wondering specifically about roller weights as that'd be the first thing I'd be interested in changing in both our Buddy and our Blur. But it's not worth it if that means I get a bunch of hassle if something needs fixed under warranty. Who's got the word? If they're installed by a dealer is it ok?

[EP_scoot]

Since you would probably take it to the 'Ville for warranty work, I would start checking with them. It might be that as long as it is not related, they don't care (say, electrical issues or suspension, etc)

Or, you could add the rollers and then take them off and put the originals if you need warranty work. I would think a sharp mechanic might be able to tell the rollers only have about 1000 miles on your 6000 mile scoot (just making up a big mileage difference), if you know what I mean. And then there is the ethical conscience part too.

[NathanielSalzman]

Yeah, I don't want to be shady about it. I'll ask Bob and see what he says. The wear-out of rollers from what I'm reading is anywhere from 3500-10,000 miles, so whether or not a tech would notice I don't know. I bet he/she would notice if it had a bunch more pickup than normal though! Ha! I can't help but wonder if when they do wear out, you couldn't have lighter ones installed and be good on the warranty front.

The other part of this is that changing your roller weights is basically the same as up-shifting your Stella at a higher RPM than maybe the average person might. Sure, you're running at a higher RPM when the shifting happens, but you haven't actually changed the physical gear cone ratios, at least if I'm understanding it correctly. If it's a warranty no-no then I won't do it thinking I can get away with it, I was just curious if anybody has had any issues.

[EP_scoot]

If you do it on your Blur we will have to do a side by side run after the breaking period to compare. I am curious to see the difference as I think the current set up works nicely, meaning, I would not want it to be any slower picking up speed after 50mph. Seems like a good compromise.

Then again, if you leave me eating dust at every stop light . . . well, that probably just won't do

[NathanielSalzman]

Ha ha! Yeah, I'm not sure yet. I was having a little trouble climbing some hills today, but that will probably sort itself out some when the engine breaks in. I think that my wife's Buddy is the more likely candidate for roller weights as she will be doing a 25-mile commute once the weather gets a hair warmer. She wants just a little more in-traffic acceleration.

[illnoise]

The other part of this is that changing your roller weights is basically the same as up-shifting your Stella at a higher RPM than maybe the average person might.

well, it could go either way, right? depending on whether you use lighter or heavier weights? Even though the mechanical components don't change, I'd think heavier weights (speed, right?) might put more strain on the variator and lighter weights (acceleration, right?) might put more strain on the transmission. But I dunno. This is a question for Brooke…

[Scootbeast]

My rollers on my kitted buddy 50 wore out extremely fast. They had less than 600 miles on them when they were replaced when the upgrade was installed. I ride pretty hard, but I am curious as to why they would wear out so fast. They came out lopsided and half gone on one side.

Now I have new 5.7g rollers and they seem to work fine.

[ScooterTrash]

My dealer told me today that the pipe, rollers and jetting no longer affect warranty

[Kevin K]

My dealer told me today that the pipe, rollers and jetting no longer affect warranty

Now if only I could convince Genuine that the 70 kit, pipe and variator don't affect the warranty....
-K

[NathanielSalzman]

My dealer told me today that the pipe, rollers and jetting no longer affect warranty

Did the dealer install them or did you?

[ericalm]

Dealers may install all kinds of things that might void your warranty... or parts of it.

The "what voids a warranty" debate is still an open one, but the general interpretation comes down to that, at most, you'll void the affected parts/systems (in this case, possibly the variator, clutch and transmission). At the same time, I'm not sure that swapping rollers in the stock variator will void anything at all.

[DarbyWalters]

I would think as long as your CDI remains the same and keeps check on RPMs...those things should not affect warranty.