Sidecar

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:52 am

My new lust...
I want one real bad!!!
Plus this one is kitted, and sounds like a pissed off devil scooter creation

AxeYrCat · Post by **AxeYrCat** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:18 pm

Word! I was actually looking at a similar setup for sale on StellaSpeed, though with the Cozi sidecar instead...

http://forums.stellaspeed.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10237

Obviously, not *as* awesome as that one, though.

jrsjr · Post by **jrsjr** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:22 pm

Heh. That is a nice rig. It seems like aobut once every year or so, a really nice sidecar rig shows up for sale somewhere near me. So far, with the help of my wife and family, I have always resisted the temptation.

Post by **ericalm** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:46 pm

Scooterworks sells them and there's apparently a sidecar specialist near me somewhere.

You can't mount one on a Buddy, though. Mike at NoHo Scooters attempted it, but the thing was horribly unstable. The Buddy's size, weight distribution and plastic paneling mean a sidecar just won't work.

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:19 pm

Both sidecars pictured (the one above and the one on Stellaspeed) are Cozi brand sidecars. They make two styles - the rocket shape sort of copies the East European/Russian Jupiter or Sputnik sidecar and the other copies the flat-sided German Steib beloved of BMW owners everywhere. One thing to remember with sidecars and scoots is that a sidecar and passenger weigh about as much as you and the scoot. It takes some beans to move the thing along and a Buddy is really not the guy for the job even if you could figure out how to attach it. You commonly see the Cozi sidecars attached to a Stella or Bajaj. In either case, it turns a 55 mph scooter into a 30 mph scooter and gives the brakes quite a workout. Most folks who put a sidecar on a Stella also kit it to provide some help. I presume some clever soul has attached a Cozi to a Vespa GTS. It would be interesting to hear how that works. One reason I have followed the discussion about a possible 250 4T Stella is just this - being a serious side car nut and Ural owner myself. In the meantime, the scooter setups I've seen are really more for Veteran's Day parades than for serious riding.

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:50 pm

the responses that people have are worth going slower...

and this guy can keep up with us at 50, with no passenger

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:16 pm

MikieTaps wrote:and this guy can keep up with us at 50, with no passenger

Of course, empty kind of defeats the point of a sidecar. On the other hand, thats better than anything I've seen personally. A Bajaj, for example, manages only about 50-55 with no hack. The scoot in the photo appears to be a Stella. Do you know what kind of kitting and other mods it received.

scullyfu · Post by **scullyfu** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:27 pm

i was behind that sidecar for a good portion of the ride yesterday & let me tell you, it is a noisy bugger.

and when it came to taking corners with the wheels airbound, well, just let me say i gave him plenty of room.

and a shout out to mike for a fun ride! and the beer was tasty, too! i'm going back to that place, soon.

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:27 pm

it is a stella, and it is now a 180cc, and exhaust upgrade. I think that Ducati Seattle did the engine work on it.

He likes the squirrelyness of the sidecar, its hilarious seeing him doing sliding stops and drifting turns

Post by **ericalm** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:02 pm

Best sidecar ever:

I'm pretty sure I've seen a Vespa GTS with sidecar, but I can't find a pic. Mounting would be pretty easy—just bolt on to the metal body.